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ya freakin moron. the whole reason why they got into kates relationship was because her ex husband was the guy with the eyepatch that the guys saw in the pearl station monitors. the same actor played the two.

ya freakin moron, cliffhangers are the essence of lost.

if u were in kates position, and u were a girl, im sure everyone wuld go for sawyer, not escape.

the others are master of mind games. everything they do is just to screw with people for the better good of humanity.

ya freakin moron, any fan knows the dharma initiative built the hatches on the island so scientist and freethinkers from around the globe could do their expereiments. and the numbers are core factors that determine the exact number of days and months before humanity extinguishes itself, the expereiments in the hatch were bult to change the factors and to save humanity. the radio tower on the island broadcasted the numbers and if the ppl managed to change on of them the new number sequence would be broadcasted out.

they studied polar bears on the island and they escaped alond with the downfall of the dharama initiative.

if ur friend was found lying on the groud bloody and dead, would you want to know how he died and soon?

you are a joke! you know what i think, i think ur a die hard fan and are just a little crazy and want to make evryone mad by saying how horrible this show is.. you cant write anything bettwer than this and you know it.

he guys said they know whats going to happen as soon as they introduce the mystery. the dvd season 1 commentrary also said they knows whats going on for the first 7 seasons or so, the things they make up As They Go Along are the little things, like relationships, and certain character deaths.

1. Eye Patch is not Nathan Fillion, there are pix to be found, here’s one. It’s not him.

2. If the producers think they can string this along for 7 seasons…well…at least they’re confident. Unrealistically so perhaps, but confident. I don’t doubt they had some story arcs planned to span a few episodes or even between seasons. Going 7 would be optimistic since this is past the peak of nearly every POPULAR show…ever. Who’s to say the ratings don’t continue to dwindle and season 4 is the last?

3. Tyler (or David) seems to be spot on with regards to the flashbacks. Where once they added some depth to the character’s actions on the island, they’ve become unbelievably predictable and repetitive. Worse, they’re not entertaining (so exactly what are they there for if not relevance or entertainment???). I find myself surfing during most of the flashbacks. If anything really important happens (HA!!! Sorry…that sounds ridiculous), I can read about the it the next morning.

4. I don’t know why it’s hard for “true fans” to accept that other former fans now write about the collapse of the show (I swear some of these genius fans are so damn insecure. I’m not suggesting YOU suck!). Obviously you found this site…so….you were googling “lost sucks” why?

5. I disagree with Tyler on the last point. For whatever reason, the producers thought that Henray Gale prone on an operating table with his life “in the balance” constitutes a cliff-hanger. I can be more blunt here: I don’t care about Henry Gale. For that matter, I don’t care if Sawyer or Kate “do it”. Or if Jack sees them in their post-coital cuddle. That ending hardly piques my interest for Feb.

I will not even begin to comment on the stupidity and lack of creativity show in the first 6 eps of season 3, including the “fall” finale. To explain why these episodes sucked would only degrade me. I mean, if you can’t figure out they sucked on your own, you have a lower than average IQ.
This brings me to my point, which I would like to open up for discussion:
After reading internet forums and listening to general conversations amongst people, I have come to the conclusion that Lost now retains only a normal T.V. audience. By “normal” in the T.V. world I mean the average IQed individual from the mid or lower class with no post-secondary education.
How do I know this?
Well, what do low IQed people do when someone tells them they are wrong(about raising their kids, working, etc.)? They become highly emotional and attempt to silence the individual because the truth is too hard to hear. That is why whenever we that have realized Lost now sucks speak up, people call us names and tell us not to post. (go to tv.com for perfect examples: you get told to leave the forum if you say ANYTHING bad about the show).
Lost had high ratings its first year because it attracted the normal tv viewer as well as the educated one (with abrams bs allusions to historical figures like Locke and Rousseau, and eastern philosophies such as dharma. The normal tv viewer probably never got these anyways. Now that we (the smart ones) have figured out that they will never develop those concepts, we all have left and turned to better programming (mostly on cable). The dumb ones are left behind to call us names because they were never smart enough to see what lost COULD have been, so they are too dumb to see what is has BECOME. Out

hmmm, maybe. don’t know if viewer demographics of LOST are ‘normal’ or not. I do know the actual number of people is dwindling (FACT): season 2 premiere ratings = 13.5, Season 3 premiere = 11.3. That’s nearly 2.5 million fewer viewers…that’s right, LOST lost roughly 18% of its viewers b/w Sept 2005 and Oct 2006. They’ve lost something close to another 800,000 just since the beginning of this season.

In fairness, part of the season 2 premier viewership is attributable to the great season 1 ending. during summer 2005 the show had huge buzz, which they proceeded to squander.

RE: other forums and TRUE FANS’ tolerance for dissention, I had a similar experience you did at the ABC/oceanic site. raise a question for discussion, people freak out like you just molested their sister. so insecure.

One last thing (expression is so liberating!), IGN.com ran an article recently: Top 50 LOST Loose Ends. The piece highlighted the famously (infamous?) unanswered questions that have popped up throughout the show. And it struck me that there were only 50?!?! Actually…that there were as many as that seems amazing. 50!!!! 50 loose ends. 50 show components that have been left unresolved. 50 in just less than 2 and 1/2 seasons. wow!

couldnt agree with you guys more. Its just so frustrating to sit back and enjoy Lost. So many unanswered questions. At this rate, it would take multiple seasons just to answer them. It just pisses me off that the writers of this show think that we enjoy this. What are we, mindless puppets who sit back in awe of this beautiful gift which is delivered to us on Wednesdays at 9pm? Please. Their goal is simple and evident, extend the life of this show as long as possible. They do this at whatever cost, even if that means producing episode after episode of mindless drivel.

I didnt watch Lost because I thought Sawyer was a total hunk or because I wanted to see some hot Kate action. I watched Lost because I was intrigued by the story and the mystery. Unfortunately, this intrigue was turned into anger after watching episode after episode and season after season without any answers. Simply put, I felt embarrassed to be watching this show.

I read a really good article not too long ago in NY Magazine:
http://nymag.com/arts/tv/features/23763/index.html
That article pretty much sums up the failures of this show and what could have been done to make it a runaway hit.

I couldnt agree more about Lost websites and forums banning this sort of discussion. Both Fuselage and lost-tv banned me after I posted my frustrations about the show. I guess you can say it is in their best interest to deny that Lost is flawed and let the show sink itself. What really pisses me off is when Lost fans start talking about story arcs and come up with ridiculous reasons why Lost continues on and on the way it does. These people are so blindly attached to the show that they will defend it and watch it to their death, ignoring the fact that the writers of this show arent giving us a well writen creative masterpiece, rather an absurd strung out never ending mystery. I cant possibly imagine how they can even end this show except with one of the biggest let downs in the history of TV dramas. But hey, these Lost fans deserve it.

I thought the first two episodes of Lost were awesome, but already during the second half of the first season I could kind of tell the show wasn’t really going anywhere.

I think the writers are really amateurish. It’s not deep to randomly name the characters after a philosophy dictionary, sprinkle some numbers randomly round the show or put the same actors in both the incredibly boring flashbacks and the island scenes.

But it’s not really Lost’s fault. It’s just the way mainstream TV works. Nobody cares about planning a deep, intelligent story that would last 1 or 2 seasons. Instead you make a pilot where you try to promise that this show is gonna be soooo awesome. If you succeed you can make a whole season, but just make sure you put in lame mysteries and a cliffhanger at the end so you can make another season. Then repeat until the viewers get sick.

I kind of agree with BigJim’s comment above, even though I think he came across a bit elitistic. But I think “stupid” people like Lost because they really believe the writers have complete control over where the story is going.

There was one angry gentleman up there that kind of proves that point. He uses “intarnet speeling” and calls the person who very nicely criticized Lost a “moron”. And also clumsily tries to explain how the Lost story works. Just what are these “expereiments” that the “freethinkers and scientists” are doing? And how are the hatches changing the factors to save humanity?

you’re right samu, referencing philosophers (via character names) isn’t new or original or deep. It’s been done. Many many times.

Here’s some irony for you: when LOST first aired, I read an interview with writers/producers In it, they descibed the show as ‘jumping the shark’ every episode, which is perhaps in some ways why it was initially so compelling. However, it seems the concept has run its course. Recent comments from the same writers/producers apparently describe that they never (NEVER?!?!) intended for the numbers to mean anything. HUH? A pretty stark admition that all the “intrigue” is really just randomly assembled crap incorporated into the show to seem…intriguing.

Plane crashes on tropical island, and people live!? JtS
Invisible monsters in the woods? JtS
Black smoke imitating horses and humans? JtS
DHARMA sharks? JtDS (jump the dharma shark)
4-toed statues? JtS
Kate and Sawyer bump uglies…in a cage? JtS
Spinal tumor on your nemesis? JtS

the list goes on and on. Again, at first, I found much of it very compelling. Largely b/c I [wrongly] assumed at least some of these elements fit together somehow and that connection would someday be revealed. It’s becoming increasingly obvious any connections are peripheral to the story, and the writers/producers aren’t terribly concerned with letting many of the questions simply evaporate into nothing.

Glad to hear EVERYONE isn’t drinking the kool-aid.

First, the article Rez linked to is exactly right. I’ve been telling my wife for a year that shows should be created like that. Like when you watch a really good movie that is 2 hours long but the plot and writing and acting is good enough that you would have loved for it to be developed into something more complex…expand it into a finite run TV series like the article said. Great concept.

Second, I’m tired of IQ=100 folks telling me what a moron I’m am for not “getting it” about lost. My advice to them: trust me, it’s not actually that deep. I started watching Lost because it seemed to have potential to be a “smart” TV show but instead degenerated into just another typical TV piece of crap. It could have been what West Wing was in it’s best days and has ended up being closer to any number of shows that get canceled during their first season.

Finally, did I miss something from watching EVERY SINGLE STUPID episode or have they not explained all that stuff that the dude in the very first post on this page says (factors, numbers countdown humanity’s destruction, etc)? And I’m not talking about stuff that you can find out from following endless “secret” website links (I do have one of THOSE friends who’s all into that). This is a TV show, not a Warcraft interactive online experience.

It is therapeutic to vent though. I’ve set this ultimatum for myself. I’m watching the Feb. premiere. They filmed a flashback scene involving Juliette in the cadaver lab where I teach and do research at the University of Hawaii Medical School that is supposed to be in the Feb. premiere so I have to watch that. If it doesn’t wow me, my wife will be watching in future weeks by herself - she’s more stubborn than me and feels like if she quits now she’ll have wasted all the time she’s spent watching this train wreck up to this point.

I am so glad I found this site … haha … LOST totally sucks this season … whats with the Fall Finale … I think its to buy more time for the producers so they can redo the show.

I used to have total attention for this show in its first season …second season was beginning to be a little repetitive with the flashbacks and cliffhangers. Once again just more twists and turns which don’t seem to make any connection but just confusing. By the third season it has become the show that runs in the background while I do other things like cook, clean or surf the net because we all know there will be more confusion and cliffhangers.

It seems like the producers are trying to cash in and make this show drag for as long as they can. Anybody can write a confusing weird story but making it all connect and making sense is the true challenge. So I will watch the show when it’s done and after this site approves it.

Postings of people trying to sell their DVDs, is another reason the show has lost its audience. Glad i waited … haha

hey lost fenatics..and hater wanna bee’s.. anywho why do u guys keep watchin lost..if its SOO DARN BAD …dont watch it then.. duuh .. its an easy way out…

and let the people who love “lost the tv show” be so darn lost

plz dont watch it anymore..dont wast ur time watchin lost then..

,,,

” by the way am an arab..hav no idea how thats gona help”

go go Sayid

by the way..i hav no read any ov ur blogs..just read the link’s name..and totally maid up my mind..

I HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE CORRECT
I posted earlier about the lack of education that the current Lost viewer has. Read TowelHeads post above and its mulititude of spelling mistakes. Period. Lost Suscks.

The mid-season cliffhanger finale is over and done with, and I can now get on with my life, because I absolutely do not care about the fate of the characters. Will Juliette shoot Jack, as many of the spoilers from other “Lost” discussion sites have suggested? Who cares? Will Alex help Kate & Sawyer get off the island? (Didn’t Sawyer already “get off”?) I don’t give a fuck! Will the midget from Twin Peaks show up spouting jibberish? Perhaps. I’m done watching the show. I will catch up on the show’s goings on from time-to-time by checking in your frustrated posts.

“Lost” is not going to get any better. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Jim, exactly. If your watching the show expecting to get answers or for it to get better, dont even waste your time. If you watch it because you enjoy a looney evening soap opera where the writers of the show literally throw out whatever they feel like that adds to the mystery, then by all means, keep watching. The sooner you disengage from the show, the better off you will be. Seriously, how will they wrap this show up and do you honestly think it will be worth it?

I APPROVE YOUR COMMENTS … LOST sucks … started as an intelligent show and ended up with another mass media cash grabbing product .They even have toys … haha …how lame is that. I wonder if they even sell the Black Smoke
in a jar. I sure someone can’t wait to buy that.

Mr. Stephen King had some wisdom to give to the producers … link to wisdom

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,1100673_3%7C%7C472578%7C0_0_,00.html

We should ask him to join us … haha

I hope to read more comments made by LOST super fans … they crack me up. By the way i have stopped watching LOST, Towel head. The fall finale was it for me.

another nail in the coffin (well…that might be a bit premature): ABC is moving LOST to 10:00 when it returns. partly b/c it would go head 2 head with American Idol and get trounced…that part makes sense.

but part of the explanation is b/c LOST is getting beat by Criminal Minds at 9:00. wtf?? Criminal Minds??? You can’t beat Criminal Minds??? Horrible. the show’s barely into its 3rd season and already sinking fast. so much so that they have to shift timeslot away from the juggernaut that is….Criminal Minds..??? Seriously.

and why do LOST fans want us to stop watching? do our comments somehow threaten them or diminish their enjoyment of the show? and wouldn’t the prefer us to keep watching even if we hated it? at least then it’d have enough viewers to stay on the air. curious.

one last thing. Sam, in that article, King talks about how they shouldn’t have endless ‘flashback padding’. he wrote that after season 1. now here we are and I think they already pad every show with mostly useless (i.e. uninformative) flashbacks. when is the last time we saw something NEW in one of those??? that’s one of my biggest problems with the show, those damn flashbacks show the same crap with different packaging. jack is tortured, I get it. Kate has a mysterious past she runs from, I get it. Sawyer is a thief with a conscience, I get it. I get it! I GET IT!!!

I totally agree with everything on this website. I thank you for making this site. I have noticed alot of other sites about lost are runnng rampant with mean and idiotic people. Thank goodness for you!

Ugh. I’m SICK to death of reactionary fans going apeshit whenever anyone questions the direction of this show. One guy actually gave me a verbal beating on his sad blog, complete with words that rhyme with “bucking witch.”

Because I said I didn’t really like “Lost” any more. A TV show.

What’s with these people who exhibit the emotional development of four-year-olds being told they’re on restriction from their trikes? Don’t just order me to “stop watching the show.” It’s not that simple. I’m not stupid. I know how to use the “on/off” switch on my remote. But after two seasons and over fifty hours of watching, I’ve made an emotional investment in the show and it’s insulting to me as a viewer for the writers to delve into the territory of under-developed, emotionally manipulative daytime drama completely lacking in substance. If I wanted that, I’d tape “The Young and the Restless.” Nobody wants their favorite TV show to go off the air, but I get the feeling from some of these fans that they would rather watch the show being run into the ground than to have a cohesive, interesting, well-written show that only lasts two or three seasons. I think “Lost” could have been unforgettable if that was the formula they worked with, but the networks won’t have that. They’ve got to milk it for every penny before they give up. Meanwhile, the show is literally *this far* from being only one step away from an alien landing before it could get any more absurd. Yes, I know there are science fiction elements on the show, but a good portion of the show is grounded in reality and the characters are so badly written, their actions, motivations and choices are so contrary to likely human behavior that the show has become a joke. If I continue to watch it, it’s only to MSTK my way through.

don’t sweat it, Em. I think I too became even more turned off when my comments, which didn’t begin with “I love LOST!”, “LOST is the greatest show ever!”, or “Sawyer is hot!”, were pissed on like so many R. Kelly vixens. You’re right on target, having being so engrossed by the first season (and most of the second), it’s tough to simply turn away.

Seems like the show’s fans are splitting into the faithful (those who think the show is heading somewhere…anywhere…and is still “GREAT!”) and the cynics (those, like us, who tend to lean towards the more likely outcome: a wandering, incohesive plot with poorly developed and static characters, and no real resolution to the more promising of the storylines).

There’s a great deal of irony involved with the unflinching fanboys. They tell you “don’t like it? don’t watch it!” while they are reading a blog they clearly don’t agree with. Hey, fanboys? Don’t like it? Don’t read it.

They’ll tell you the problem is that you aren’t smart enough to “get” the show, when they’re barely smart enough to string together a coherent sentence without glaring spelling errors. As I’ve written elsewhere, it’s a network TV show, not a dissertation on the molecular composition of quasars. You are not Yoda because you can follow the plot.

They’ll tell you “nobody cares what you think anyway” after they’ve written a 500-word tirade demonstrating that they do, in fact, deeply care what you think. By the by, the “nobody cares what you think” deal works both ways. That’s why I don’t hang around sites like The Fuselage to read everyone drooling over how perfect and wonderful and excellent the show is.

They get defensive, as if the host of this site is suggesting that everyone who still enjoys the show should be rounded up and put into camps. Give me a break. There’s no reason to get *angry* over another person’s opinion about a friggin’ TV show. It’s. A. TV. SHOW. You’d think “Lost” was curing cancer and ending world hunger the way some people act.

Personally, I find sites like this kind of comforting as I watch my once-favorite program flush itself down the toilet. It helps to have a place to vent. There’s a pretty big difference between hate and disillusionment and this site and my own feelings tend to lean toward the latter.

Dude, I agree. This show jumped the shark in Season 2, however, I just didn’t know it. I find it offensive that Abrams and Cuse compare the show to X-Files or Twin Peaks. X-Files made viewers believe the impossible and Twin Peaks was at least plausible. This show is neither. If the Lost story were told in a standard linear fashion, it would suck beyond description. Anyone can write a story, rearrange all of the events and make it unintelligible. I think the fact that Lost wouldn’t last if the story had to stand on its own merits when told in chronological order is very telling.

God you all bore me and chat a load of shit so what if Lost isn’t as good as the previous season’s! For you all to sit here and argue about whether it’s good or not you obviously are retarded, window lickers who’s family’s have abandoned you all because you ain’t worth the time! Out

Now that’s good stuff. Whenever someone disagrees, sling insulting barbs their way to distract them from the fact that you can’t construct a cogent defense for yourself.

As for “…so what if Lost isn’t as good as the previous season’s!”, I guess the fact that you found this site is evidence that you too this the show is suck-ass…so…that’s “so what?”.

As for “…sit here and argue about whether it’s good or not”, I don’t think we’re arguing. The show isn’t good.

Grammatically, your post has several errors. I suggest referencing your GED grammar guide for suggestions.

We are less than one week away from the big mid-season premiere. Does anyone even remember what this show is about? Honestly now…

I didn’t even remember to tune in. I keep meaning to watch the episodes I missed on abc.com, but I’ve been too busy with other stuff, like watching paint dry. I just read that the season opener saw “Lost” with its lowest ratings yet. No wonder. The show was already slipping and the hiatus basically killed any interest I had in seeing it through to the end.

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