Lost – Up in smoke
Cheech??? Wow. Just wow. I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry while watching last night’s episode. They don’t even bother starting the shows with actual plot anymore, they just go right into meaningless flashbacks. We already knew Hurley was cursed, OK we get it. Did the Cheech-back do anything to further develop the story or characters? I say no. The actual “action” on the island was also meaningless. Great, they found VW bus. Whoopee! Wasn’t something big supposed to happen, according to last weeks dramatic preview? Guess I missed it again. At this point it’s clear the producers are just biding their time rolling out crap episodes to milk this cow for as long as possible.
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You are so correct…this ep was awful! No advancement of the plot and we know that Alex is the French lady’s daughter.
Ugh
What a jip. They are trying to piss us off. That’s the only explanation that makes sense.
Wow. You people really listen to this nerd who sits on his ass at the computer all day to make wise-crack remarks about one of the top-watched shows in America?
You should all get some small Cult going on and go die from rat poison because this site is more ridiculous than porn.
If you want to have a life, send a review to Entertainment Weekly, go use the money to buy yourself a house, and then get a job.
Seeing that this article was just written today, I’d say you worked on this all night and day and posted it so your little group of gay-jays who think your funny could read it.
Wow. You people really listen to this nerd who sits on his ass at the computer all day to make wise-crack remarks about one of the top-watched shows in America?
You should all get some small Cult going on and go die from rat poison because this site is more ridiculous than porn.
If you want to have a life, send a review to Entertainment Weekly, go use the money to buy yourself a house, and then get a job.
Seeing that this article was just written today, I’d say you worked on this all night and day and posted it so your little group of gay-jays who think your funny could read it.
fuck you Meatnormous. just cause its one of the topwatched shows in america doesnt mean anything.
probably if yust a cupple of guys says that lost sucks its because millions of americans are just blind.
the 3rd serie of lost sucks and thats clear.
eat shit meatnormous
Porn is NOT ridiculous!!! Your mom worked very hard doing all those movies o put you through school.
She wants you to call her. She says you never cal anymore, at least that’s what I think she’s saying because she’s biting the pillow so hard it’s hard to understand her.
The black guy in the room thought she said “use the meatnormous drill” but who knows. The fact that her teeth are missing doesn’t help either.
Buy your mom some teeth… wait nevermind, don’t.
Wow. You people really listen to this nerd who sits on his ass at the computer all day to make wise-crack remarks about one of the top-watched shows in America?
You should all get some small Cult going on and go die from rat poison because this site is more ridiculous than porn.
If you want to have a life, send a review to Entertainment Weekly, go use the money to buy yourself a house, and then get a job.
Seeing that this article was just written today, I’d say you worked on this all night and day and posted it so your little group of gay-jays who think your funny could read it..
Ah, I was wondering how long it was going to take for someone from the “your stupid” crowd to post. I wonder, do people write comments like that with a deliberate sense of irony?
so good you should post it 3 times…or 4…or more!
Wow. You people really listen to this nerd who sits on his ass at the computer all day to make wise-crack remarks about one of the top-watched shows in America?
You should all get some small Cult going on and go die from rat poison because this site is more ridiculous than porn.
If you want to have a life, send a review to Entertainment Weekly, go use the money to buy yourself a house, and then get a job.
Seeing that this article was just written today, I’d say you worked on this all night and day and posted it so your little group of gay-jays who think your funny could read it…
Hey look he can copy and paste.
Just like the LOST writer.
Way to go little buddy.
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LOL!!
Oh goody, I get the first post- this’ll really piss off Big Jim!
First I’ll really rub everybody the wrong way & tell you what I liked: the humor. Lost has been lacking it lately, what with all those grim faced “others”. I missed the funny Hurley & the wise cracking Sawyer (as opposed to the morbid Hurley & beat-down Sawyer), so it was nice to see them again.
Now for what I didn’t like: everything else. Cheech was a piss poor casting choice for Hurley’s dad, simply because he’s in everything. Most annoying of all though is the fact that for another week the plot stood still. Advancing the plot is the single most important part of a good TV show or movie. The flashbacks actually used to help advance the plot, now they just get in the way. I mean the single most important moment of the episode was when Locke & Sayid talk about the “compass” on Eko’s grave. That moment is just glossed over in 3 seconds flat, so we can get to that stupid French b**ch again… It’s obvious there is some kind of fragmentation of time/space on the Island because for another week time stood still…
“It’s obvious there is some kind of fragmentation of time/space on the Island because for another week time stood still… ”
funny.
I agree, good to get away from the mopey Others. and the characters (hurley, sawyer) returned to form. problem I had is that their form no longer amuses me. they haven’t evolved, kim speaks enlish like george takei, and sawyer worries about his stuff like a frickin’ 2 year old – of course, he takes time to teach english to mr. sulu and give everyone their cutesy nickname du semaine.
Well, to say I’m grasping at straws is an understatement. I fully realize this… I also realize the straws are getting harder & harder to come by.
great now we know hurleys pops is a stoner .Does everybody on this island have daddy issues ? dharma beer? are they for real?whats next Sawyer opens a bar where he trades anything useful for a beer, or hurley sellz car rides with a new catch phrase “cash , ass or grass nobody rides for free”. why did they aim the van for that small patch of rocks would’nt it be safer to point in a differnt direction or pop the clutch earlier? why did they only drive in circles? all in all its a better episode and bigger mystery to me why Hurleys pops is cheech than jacks tattoos. now pass me a dharma brew.
I agree about the van! Even if they couldn’t start it – why would they drive right towards the rocks!? Can’t you still steer away from them? And why wait until the last possible second to start it? And where the hell are they gonna get gas now that they have the van running? And the flashbacks no longer mean anything. Honestly, if you took the entire season so far and only took everything that was relevant to the plot, well, you STILL wouldn’t have a complete episode. I HATE MYSELF FOR WATCHING LOST!
ha! hilarious!
Like Patentman said… we knew Alex was the french chick’s daughter like five seasons ago… but what I don’t get is how Russo didn’t know about Alex. It’s obvious Russo’s been around the island a lot. And it’s obvious she’s been in contact with the others a lot, if only just watching them. So how did she never see Alex among them?
And boy that bitch is sure a terrible shot. Every time she tries to shoot intruders into her “personal area” she completely misses. I bet once she’s got one of the non-main characters in her sights she’ll be dead on.
theres alot of stuff that dosent add up .like when ben asks jack if he belives in god .he said he did because when he found out about the tumor jack fell from the sky. but when jack said hed have more faith if they had a surgeon ,and ben says that ethan was a surgeon agood one. then why need jack to fall from the sky ? how is that a test of faith ? if they never came ethan would be alive right ? i must be missing something sorry 4 mistakes
How about Sawyer teaching Jin English? “No, that dress no make you look fat.” Wow… that’s funny. You know, cuz women always think they’re fat. What a funny and original observation! Thanks, Lost writers!
Also, why did the asian reporter have an almost identical name to “Asian Reporter Trisha Takanawa” from The Family Guy? Was that a reference, or were they just too lazy to come up with their own name? Oh, and the comet/meteor/whatever hitting the store? I don’t even know what to say about that. Stupid.
Can someone please tell me why the hell I keep watching this show?!
Must be that brain tumor…
Yeah, the meteor was ridiculous & the asian reporter’s name is literally one syllable away from the one on Family Guy.
“Was that a reference, or were they just too lazy to come up with their own name”
they’ve ripped off a lot of material from other sources. I wasn’t surprised by this.
Yeah, the Asian reporter was dumb.
These writers have no originality. They steal, and not even remotely industriously.
I actually thought this episode was funny and a good watch, because it didn’t take itself seriously. At least, not totally; at one point I turned off the sound so I didn’t have to see the slow-motion “Kate looks at Sawyer, Sawyer looks at Kate, Kate looks dramaaaaaaaaatic” crap, or the one-string violin thing they do to “add drama.” It’s getting really old.
Rousseau is the worst.shot.ever. the smoke monster should have eaten her years ago.
Plot has ceased to become a point. It’s all just a joke now. When I saw the Dharma Initiative symbol on the damn VW bus, I realized even the costume, design, and set people are having a big joke on all of us.
And the uber-retarded drama of “waiiiiiiit for it, waiiiiiiiiit for it” to pop the clutch was just, well, really stupid. I mean, did ANYONE think they wouldn’t get the car started??
Jin is apparently the professor and like, a fucking VW Engineer btw.
another useless episode as ever…. after 3 season, i didn’t know Hurley was cursed, thanks Lost producers for hammering that point in again. what the hell was the point of anything that happened in this episode?!?! wasn’t there supposed to be some big thing that we were all gonna be talking about? and unless theres some hidden gas station on the island, what the hell was the point of getting the van started? what the hell was the point of even throwing the van into the story? bullshit bullshit bullshit!
Well here is my take:
1) I have always said (go back to my old posts) that people who still enjoy lost and want to fix it have low IQs. They become defensive just like hill-jack parents do when you try and tell them that they aren’t good guardians. Low IQ=overly defensive. THUS, Nico has a low IQ. For one he still likes the show and is waaaaaaaay to insulted by my comments. Secondly, he claims to have the first post when his was the third.
2) The show sucked. Get it?
Actually those of us who know how to tell time can see it’s actually the second. I’m just not as fast a typist as the person above me. By the way, I’m not the one who went on the attack BJ, that was you. I was simply trying to ask you what you could possibly have to say about a show you (by your own admission) no longer even watch for purposes of amusing yourself at it’s “suckiness”. Yeah, the episode sucked- however it’s hard to form an argument when you have no knowledge of why it sucked because you didn’t watch it. How ’bout this BJ- lets just agree to disagree, k?
A meteor? Are you effin’ kidding me? That was possibly the lamest thing I’ve ever seen. If that is not lazy writing…
And yes, who is so stupid that they needed it explicitly pointed out that Alex was Russo’s mysteriously lost daughter?
And how the heck does a VW van that’s been rotting in the jungle for who knows how long have any chance of starting? I leave gas in my lawnmower over the winter and it turns to turpentine and won’t start. I continually do maintenance on my truck and it still let’s me down occasionally.
And I actually thought at first that they called her “Asian Reporter Trisha Takanawa”. Almost laughed my butt off.
Awful, Awful, Awful…I could go on forever.
To echo Ross – why do I keep watchng this awful show
yeah and its probably a dharma meteor too . whats next they find a dharma plane filled with dharma vodka push it off a cliff and hope it starts ? even if it did they still wouldnt fly off the island they would use it to rescue jack or something equally as stupid
ha! again, you slay me!
though, dharma vodka’s only good with dharma tonic and dharma olives.
…and little dharma umbrellas for the tropical drinks.
I agree with Tyler that the network appears to be more interested in milking the Lost cash cow than providing quality entertainment. It’s unfortunate that they don’t realize that the two need not be mutually exclusive. I think the writing started to fall apart a little before the episode when they killed off Eko, arguably the most fascinating and cathartic character on the show (don’t mind Aussie guy either). Much has been made about the fact that the actor playing Eko asked to be killed off for personal reasons but I have to wonder if he might have been more interested to continue if the plotline had been somewhat more compelling and challenging for an actor of his caliber. And who the f%$#@!! were those two idiots who decided to come along on that fatal excursion with John, Sawyer, Sayeed and Eko. I could not BElieve that they were attempting to introduce new characters to the plot THAT late in the game. Fortunately, these two have since returned to obscurity where they belong. Yet another indication that the writers of Lost simply wing it and do not know themselves how they will resolve the countless mysteries and discrepencies in the storyline, which is probably decided by committee in a boardroom. And I really don’t mind that the writers have been making it up as they go along but clearly they themselves have become lost and appear to have forgotten what made the show so gripping to begin with. Perhaps it is impossible to maintain that kind of intensity indefinitely. But this show really had me hooked even during the declining second season. I was incredibly pissed and disappointed by Eko’s ridiculous death by nebulous fog creature, but the Jack-Kate-Sawyer prison camp ordeal had kept me sufficiently interested that I kept coming back for more. HOWEVER, last night’s episode was deplorable! It was SOOOO fantastically bad. I consider myself very very selective about what I watch on TV. I watch about two hours of TV a week. So those two hours better be damn well worth it. Last night’s episode was truly putrid TV with the possible exception of a couple of amusing wise cracks from Sawyer (”well look who’s hooked on phonics” — vintage Sawyer). But… Cheech?! Are you kidding me?! Hurley throwing a temper tantrum when long lost daddy Cheech shows up in his life?! Sawyer giving English lessons to “Korean man”?! The boys spinning around the grass in a VW?! You’ve got to be kidding me? How does this advance the plot? What does this add to character development? How does this begin to answer any of the many lingering questions? I give Lost two more episodes (okay maybe three more) to turn things around and then that’s it for me. And stop trashing the French chick. Everyone must admit that historically, all of the episodes that she has been in have at least been pretty interesting. Maybe there is hope yet to turn this increasingly rancid turkey around.
that about sums it up .
I recommend you replace your Lost hour with Heroes.
Eko, arguably the most fascinating and cathartic character on the show (don’t mind Aussie guy either).
Um, Desmond? He’s Scottish. If you don’t even know that, I can see why you are not very happy with LOST. heh.
Cheech… pick-eeeee. Well, suck my drumstick. Desmond’s accent is a little fuzzy, o-kay?! The guy was born in Peru, after all.
I would share in the pain with y’all, but I forgot the show was even on last night. I guess that pretty much says it all for me.
as for sawyer being back to his usual self…
what the heck what that sappy slo-mo montage at the end?
sawyer ‘lost in love’ watching the other happy couples…wow! horrible.
thoughts running through his head:
s1/niff…sniff…I’m really a sensitive guy (i.e. metrosexual, SNAG)
2/this rough facade hides a scared little boy who just wants to be loved. LOVE ME DAMMIT!
3/why does everyone hate me? they just a bunch of no good playa haters jealous on my beautiful hair!
4/would that dress make me look fat?
“sawyer ‘lost in love’ watching the other happy couples…wow! horrible.”
Wow. I almost threw up just *reading* that. I think I would have thrown a bowling ball through my television set if I had to actually witness it. And I don’t even OWN a bowling ball. I would have had to go out and get one. But it would have been worth it.
wow, first week as a lost quitter and i don’t think i’m that disappointed. i still plan to check in to see if the episode would have been worth seeing. i’ve committed myself to not risking the chance of wasting time by watching w/o knowing if it’s going to suck. from what i’ve heard, both here and from friends, my decision has been a pretty good one. plus i got to watch the md v. duke game!!! GO TERPS!!!
is it really worth watching lame episodes even if they do have a true solution in the end? it’s like any sport, you can’t just bring it all at the end of the game, you need consistency and solid performance. if you don’t you’ll slip and it may be too late. it’s definitely too late for me.
sure sure, character comedy and light heartedness is ok, but i think most people could do away with that. bringing it at this time doesn’t help the other disappointments.
i’m one step further in forgetting the show.
I think we all are. I just keep wondering exactly what it will take before it’s not even watching to bitch about it… I know, the polar bear unzips itself (turning out to be a plush suit) & out pops Libby… Yeah, that’d do it…
You would still watch, and you would still hate yourself for watching.
Mmmm… I dunno’, I almost gave up after the fish biscuits. So dumb…
If you have an abandoned van (stuffed with beer and a corpse) on a hot jungle island the following is likely to happen:
1) The axles will seize up
2) Everything that can rust will rust (engine included)
3) The tires will loose there air pressure
4) The battery will go flat
5) The beer will go bad (I defy anyone to drink beer left in the sun for several years)
6) Previously mentioned corpse will decompose all over the front seat leaving a fine mess and a wonderful smell
7) I’m not precisely sure what happens to fuel if you leave it for several years but I’m sure its not of the good
… and there saying they got the van started with out any tools, I mean WTF
Plot holes for the van:
1) The keys were found in Rogers hand, what the hell made him drive to the middle of nowhere switch off the van, hold the keys in his hands and promptly die?
2) Why would Dharma bother to buy a vw van and then replace its badge with a Dharma one, I mean why?
3) Who the hell would bring a vw van to an island with no roads as a method of getting around. Haven’t they heard of jeeps or four by fours what was there backup vehicle a reliant robin!
4) When they went down that hill the beer was in the van, no way in hell Sawyer lets the beer go on a kamikaze run with the fat man and the hobbit
5) Hurley is shown as having an interest in fixing vehicles (thank you flashbacks) yet he still runs out of the jungle saying he’s found a car. Surely he should have said he found a VAN!
6) They pull a decomposing corpse out of the van and only the head falls of, no way it would fall to pieces.
That said there was some good:
1) That meteor was fu*king hilarious
2) Was I the only one turned on to see Kate drenched in sweat wondering through the jungle at the start (reminded me of the time she was breaking into a sweat in that dress whilst breaking rocks) … hmmm excuse me for a minute………………………………………………. ahh done, hey don’t you judge me I’m just trying to get some enjoyment out of this show.
3) Finally an episode with a plot element okay it was just 5 seconds long and asking the French woman for help raiding the others camp, but it is the first piece of movement plot wise all season
“The keys were found in Rogers hand, what the hell made him drive to the middle of nowhere switch off the van, hold the keys in his hands and promptly die?”
ha!!!! excellent…I thought the same thing!
I just thought the hand looked like the beef jerkey I was eating while watching the show…
ROFLMAO!
Next week on Lost: the secret you’ve all been waiting for! HOW ROGER DIED!! and the answers you’ve been looking for! DID THEY USE AN ARC WELDER OR AN ACETYLENE TORCH TO PUT ON THE DHARMA HOOD ORNAMENT.
They’re not even *trying* to write for plot anymore. They’re just trying to milk your attachment to certain characters. I love Hurley, mainly because he’s a character you give a shit about, but if I see another episode about those stupid numbers, I am going to put a meteor through my TV.
As Lost starts to Tank in the ratings, ABC will step up the violence; you’ll see it will be WAR WITH THE OTHERS. lots of gun firing and random extras getting shot with (yet again) no plot exposition.
btw, I can already tell you I hate the Sheriff. She is going to be extra special annoying on screen and her character just adds to the pretentiousness of this entire series. You want to increase the appeal of the show ABC? 1. Pick which genre you are for christ sake. Either you are scifi or fantasy or mindfuck. 2. kill off the annoying characters: bye bye no-expression doctor woman, bye bye random Alex’s boyfriend 3. Have a point. You could write the show for 2 years if you actually chose a framework for the show.
One more thing. How BIG is this fucking island? They’ve been on it for 3-actual-people-years, and they STILL haven’t walked around it or sailed around it? It’s just another indication the writers have NO IDEA where they are going. They don’t want to close off themselves to any possibilities (like an airstrip on the island, or a city, or an underground dwarf palace, or some such shit) so they keep the distances really really vague.
Actually, according to the story they’ve only been on the island for a few months. Still ample time to discover a dwarf palace though… Or maybe the lair of the Jockey’s (sorry, blatant Simpson’s reference)? Or perhaps the underpants gnomes (sorry, now on to South Park)?
Hey man, you just aren’t getting it! The “magic bus” has mystical quailites instilled in it by “healing properties” of the island. Just like the island plopped down Hurley’s insane friend Dave to prevent a depressed Hurley from offing himself, the island also planted the bus just for Hurley so he could “find some hope dude.” That bus was not running on fuel, it was running on magical, mystery polar bear juice!
What I want to find out is, if the Island has mystical healing properties, why is hot Shannon dead? Boone, I can accept, getting ripped to pieces for no reason. people getting shot, scraped, cut, drowned, I can deal with those temporary suspensions of Island healing power. SYSTEM FAILURE SYSTEM FAILURE SYSTEM FAILURE.
I refuse to watch this show. But was the VW van yellow? Next thing ya now, Steve Carell’s gonna show up.
nice reference…
no carell, but there was a dead body (though not in the ‘trunk’, no telling whether it was a herione OD).
At least it had humor, no? I did laugh really hard once, when Hurley’s mom pinches the ears on her solid gold Jesus! That was pretty funny. Also when she said their personal chefs are a family from Bennigans- that was funny as well. The point of the meteor was to point out the absurdity of his infintessimal bad luck- he’s cursed by the cosmos, the universe. Sometimes it’s too easy to knit-pick, and that is why I like the succinctness of Tyler’s lead post as opposed to most others.
They really didn’t have to go into his past on this one, but it does show that maybe Charlie isn’t as doomed as the drunken Scot made him out to be. They brought the “new” good looking couple back for a scene, don’t know what for. It’s clear their camp is aimless now, the returned captives of Sawyer and Kate were not even debriefed or questioned, you would think Sayid would have them buried in sand to their necks in order to extract info.
Sawyer will go after Kate, that is clear. Sawyer is a fraud, some people still don’t understand this (then they wonder why there are so many flashbacks). He took a pseudonym and is perpetually sorry for himself and is not “tough” at all. He’s gotten his ass beat by too many people. He’s a charlatan and everyone knows that. Why so surprised that he is in love? Knit-picking this show is like knit-picking Heroes, Twilight Zone, or Star Trek, you’ve accepted the irrational and can never go back.
They went from a formula of plot driving to flashback episodes to 2-3 episodes of flashbacks to plot forwarding. I’m not all too eager to get back to the “others”, they killed any intrigue I had in them. Oh well!
not surprised he’s in love, just not consistent with the character they’d developed early on (and that most people liked…for better or worse).
as for picking nits, I think they’ve broken the deal. that being the deal that exists b/w television/movies and the audience. that being we suspend disbelief for just a little while, and you (tv/movies) entertain us. I just find LOST’s expectations for the audience (i.e. to NOT nitpick) has become laughable.
it’s bordering on a mockery of a sham…not quite…but almost…
Yes, the whole expectation that as an audience we weren’t going to rebel is beyond ridiculous. You can only tell somebody to be patient & then insult their intelligence so many times.
it’s “nit” picking — like picking the baby lice out of a gorilla’s hair.
Wow. You people really listen to this nerd who sits on his ass at the computer all day to make wise-crack remarks about one of the top-watched shows in America?
You should all get some small Cult going on and go die from rat poison because this site is more ridiculous than porn.
If you want to have a life, send a review to Entertainment Weekly, go use the money to buy yourself a house, and then get a job.
Seeing that this article was just written today, I’d say you worked on this all night and day and posted it so your little group of gay-jays who think your funny could read it….
what’s amazing is that you’re doing the EXACT same thing, only it is worse. the thing is, we sought to find other people who feel what we feel – that LOST is a show that had amazing potential and it has gone down the tubes. since we all feel this way, we are a support group of sorts; we feel each other’s pain and vent our (common) frustration. what you are – someone who went out of his way to find people who have a different opinion than your own, and you took the time to bash them. you tell me, which is sadder?
agreed, but if we ever start OT threads and pretend to drink coffee together…
Wow. You people really listen to this nerd who sits on his ass at the computer all day to make wise-crack remarks about one of the top-watched shows in America?
You should all get some small Cult going on and go die from rat poison because this site is more ridiculous than porn.
If you want to have a life, send a review to Entertainment Weekly, go use the money to buy yourself a house, and then get a job.
Seeing that this article was just written today, I’d say you worked on this all night and day and posted it so your little group of gay-jays who think your funny could read it…..
Wow.. You people really listen to this nerd who sits on his ass at the computer all day to make wise-crack remarks about one of the top-watched shows in America?
You should all get some small Cult going on and go die from rat poison because this site is more ridiculous than porn.
If you want to have a life, send a review to Entertainment Weekly, go use the money to buy yourself a house, and then get a job.
Seeing that this article was just written today, I’d say you worked on this all night and day and posted it so your little group of gay-jays who think your funny could read it.
It looks like I can spam only 1 every 15 seconds.. I better slow down, Cowboy!
now you’re posting the same post over and over again! think of what you’re doing – this is WAY sadder than us sharing each other’s common view!
he’s a flammer, ignore him
Yeah, don’t be hatin’ Meatnormous. Clearly the purpose of a blog is “Lost” on your meagre intellect. Sitting here in my Sawyer-pelt slippers, Lost PJs and aluminum foil hat, I feel such a sense of proud kinship with my Lost peeps. We all just regular folk sharin’ our grief over the evaporating ideal that once was and providing support for our recovering Lost apostates. YOU’RE more ridiculous than porn (what does that even mean?!). Go spread your venom elsewhere beeatch and suck my drumstick.
Dude, go jack off at The Fuselage and leave us in our mourning for the death of a once-good show. Again…irony. Calling people losers while posting excessive spam messages? Doesn’t exactly scream “winner,” Corky.
“Corky”
Emily you rule.
half of me want’s to defile your character…seriously…defecate on your face…but the other half of me is well aware of the fact that your sorry @$$ is trying to brag to someone (that isn’t even intrested in what you have to say)…about how you posted a comment on a page that you “are’nt” intrested in & someone actually responded to it. you are the reason baby’s cry. i only wish that the other people out there reading this were the ONLY one’s smiling about it…& not your stankin @$$.
i wasn’t sure how to spell deushe bag before…but now i know…it’s meatnormous…the meatnormus is silent.
to bad letters typed on a keyboard can’t break bones…jusayin
“you are the reason babies cry”
That is just too funny. Everybody in the office is looking at me like I’m crazy because I started laughing so hard I almost fell of my chair.
“If you want to have a life, send a review to Entertainment Weekly, go use the money to buy yourself a house…”
??? pretty low standard of living for meatnormous.
What a looser this guy is, clearly a lost fan who can’t take criticism of the show. Notice he doesn’t refute anything just passes back insults, basically he can’t justify the show so he uses insults to try and make himself feel better. Also with a handle like meatnormous do you think he’s trying to over compensate for certain deficiency in his anatomy?
Meatnormous if you want to disprove us do so, but spamming and poor insults only make you seem like an idiot.
well, as long as he’s not slagging off polar bears….then i’ll get pissed…
Meatnormous is the epitome of people who are rabid Lost fans! Instead of saying, “yeah, why *don’t* they wrap up any of the plot points they start?” they just cover their solid gold jesus ears and scream “LOST IS BRILLIANT AND PERFECT! BRILLIANT AND PERFECTTT!!!” And then they fling their poo at you just like the monkeys they are.
I remember when there was a great show on ABC named “LOST”. It had mystery, intrigue, suspense, a bit of horror….
Now it has become a drudgery of soap opera themes and pointless filler dialogue. Last week’s episode (Stranger in a Strange Land – 2/21/07) and this week’s Hurley flash-back episode showed in remarkable detail how incredibly derailed LOST has become from the aspects of the show that made it such a phenomenon in its first season.
Instead of being afraid of an unknown force lurking in the dark, we are now supposed to fear a ferret-faced weenie with a spinal tumor and a middle-aged white lady who can read Chinese.
Instead of conversations that build toward solving the island’s mysteries, we get conversations about reasons to apologize and kids renaming constellations. (”You have a back yard?” Ugh.)
We have a love-quadrilateral now between Sawyer-Kate-Jack-Juliet. As if the “tension” amongst the first three hasn’t been dragged out long enough. Is this LOST or Fantasy Island? I know the “Skater” and “Jacket” fans eat this drek up but the rest of us have to stifle the rise of bile.
I could go on, but why bother?
The producers are rapidly running out of time to re-engage their audience after that disaster of a 3 month hiatus and the idiotic move to 10 PM. They’ve done everything they possibly could have done to mess this show up. I invite them to re-watch Season 1 and 2 (fast-forward through Anna Lucia’s scenes) and get a clue. Or get a new audience.
Now that’s better. Eloquently put RobbyLove. Your post epitomizes what this site is all about. Keep it coming and let’s not waste any more lubricant on detractors like Meatnormous. There is indeed a crisis on the horizon. I’m not merely talking about the prospect of increasingly rancid Lost episodes (although this is bad enough) but has anyone considered that the show might actually be heading towards gasp… cancellation. Of course, there are a number of ABC mediocrities that have withstood the test of time but there may come a day when those greedy ABC execs decide it’s time to pull the plug if the numbers no longer add up. What then, brothers and sisters!? What then?! Is the show now hopeless beyond redemption? Can they, as RobbyLove suggests, re-engage the audience? I want to be re-engaged. I will happily submit to re-engagement. I am prepared to undergo re-engagement. We all want to be re-engaged. Please re-engage me. plllllease…
I’m afraid it is too late. The show has gone too far off the rails to get back on track. The writers and producers were obviously making things up from the very beginning and there is no solution to the mysteries that could possibly satisfy after the waste of season two and three. Honesly, the smoke monster is no longer scary. The Others went from being zombie / psycho kids wandering the woods to modern day pirate / hillbilles to sci-geeks with book clubs and backyards. Nothing can save this show. Boy am I glad I stopped watching in season 2.
stop watching this show if u don tlike it. i dont go watch 24 and complain about it cuz its stupid to me.
lost is best show ever, you americans are impatient fools and really know how to make a person mad
no wonder the whole world hates u guys
right…
such sweet irony. and ‘the whole world hates us’ was just priceless…
ha! now THAT’S funny…the whole world hates us. good stuff.
I love how LOST defenders find their way to a ‘whylostsucks’ site, then complain about the complainers. sad thing is, that’s more entertaining than the show itself.
2nd that!
honestly 2nd season would have been good if they actually gave us something at the end. it’s like an extended tease. honestly i don’t get what is enjoyable about this last season.
but you know what, the name of the game (whether the show has truly failed or is as “good” as ever) is patience. this debate will continue until the season ends. but if the producers keep up the trend of season 3 i dare anyone to commit to season 4.
I don’t know. I kind of want to “tlike it” with a
TV show. It sounds positively illegal.
Yes, Yes, Yes…I enjoy being able to come on here and vent about how bad the show has become but it has become an equally huge joy to come on here and read all the Lost kool-aid drinkers call us “poopy-heads” in a manner totally consistent with the intellect that we all clearly lack since we don’t have the ability to grasp the intricate brainteaser that is Lost.
and I have to agree, the “that’s why the world hates u guys” was AWESOME!!
Oh…my…God…
Yep, THAT is why the world hates us. Our inability to be patient with TV shows. It’s not the oil gluttony, or war mongering… It’s all about Lost.
Yeah, that’s why every country in the world is knocking at your door to get in, and not ours.
Oh wait…
I got that mixed up, no one wants into your country.
1st of all you dumb ignorant fuck… the world may hate the US government because of bad policy, but they certainly do not hate the American people. If the world hates us so much, why is everyone on this planet so desperately trying to copy American culture/music/television and film? Secondly… if you love Lost so much, how/why did you come to a website that was created to allow former and even current fans of the show to vent their grievences about a plot that is failing miserably?
part of me wants to just give up on it now, the other half of me wants some answers but i think with the way things are going now the networks will get peed off with the amount of people jumping out the boat and will tell the writers to sum up the series in a few episodes and fuck everything up….
Is it possible that “Meatnormous” is one of the Polar Bears angling for a longer work permit?
First of all, “Kool-aid drinkers” has got to be one of the lamest things I’ve ever read in my life. I know that you guys think you’re super clever, but take it from me — you’re not.
Now, onto my point. You utter tools have decided to dedicate your Internet lives to posting about a show that, judging from the URL of this site, you completely loathe, thereby ruining it for the rest of the people who still actually watch. If you don’t like it, then you might want to move on and, gosh, I don’t know — get a hobby, maybe? I’m sure you guys will have some pitiful justification for why you still feel inclined to either watch the show or bash it mindlessly. But that’s okay, because I assume you guys are all Emmy-nominated screenwriters who could do much, much better.
I’m not sure people hate you guys because you’re not fans of Lost. I’m pretty sure, though, that people mock you because you’re losers.
I await your pathetic, ludicrous responses. Please try your best to insult me, if possible, and throw out as many personal character attacks as possible. And again, lame justifications as to why bashing a television show is your hobby are always welcome. Have a great day!
ha! wow….so much material…so little time…
Instead of insulting you, which you seem to hope (?) we will do, I guess I and the rest of these folks owe you an apology.
I had no idea that my random postings on why LOST is no longer very good had affected you to the point that your enjoyment of the show has been ‘ruined’.
My only regret is that there were some way to make amends to “the rest of the people who still actually watch”. The guilt that weighs me down will forever burden me and keep me from truly finding happiness in life. Despite your sincere wish of good will, I will NOT have a great day today or any other day.
Please, release me from these shackles of shame, tell me how to make it right! I want to make it right!!!!
LOL!
I’m not big on ad hominem insults, so you have nothing to fear there.
I will say I find it odd that anybody who blindly loves the show would ever click on the link to this site, let alone bother to post on it. I also wonder why somebody who seems realtively articulate would amuse themselves by waiting for the rest of us to hurl insults at you (in fact, encouraging us to do so).
I can’t speak for everybody else, but for me this site has become an amusing diversion during my often tedious workday. As far as using the net to bitch about something I have no control over; well that is tradition that goes back as far as the old BBS systems (pre www). I feel better after venting here because I’m not ashamed to admit I did like Lost for a long time. Now I feel like one of the few frivalous enjoyments that I looked forward to every week has been stolen away from me (and that makes me angry). I know it seems silly, but I like TV when it’s good- and it so rarely is.
Thanks for the mature response, Nico, which I honestly wasn’t expecting. As far as the insults go, I have unfortunately received none, but I did receive a response from one dude who apparently thinks he has mastered the art of sarcasm. You’re a funny guy, LostSkeptic! Let me know when your standup comedy tour starts, as your wit has stunned me to the point of complete and total amazement. You even got an LOL out of it from some other dude! I’m impressed! Congrats!
My discovery of this particular site was completely random. I stumbled across it. And I don’t blindly love the show — I have problems with it, just like everybody else does. What I do take issue with, however, is people who ignore any good aspects of a product, be it a television show or not, in favor of focusing solely on negative ones. Has it degraded in quality? Yes. But it’s still vastly superior to dreck like Law and Order, which is a show that epitomizes the word “formulaic.”
And because I apparently have to break it down for LostSkeptic, negative buzz — whether it’s on the Internet or via print media — hurts a television show. It generates a lack of interest and an overall apathy which, in the long run, means less viewers and less interest. So yes, genius, you’re hurting the show in the long run.
For the dude who said “I’m gonna spend my time looking for people on the internet who have different opinions that me and bash them” — isn’t that kind of what you’re doing now? You might want to scroll up and check out the genius who said that it’s his longstanding belief that people who like Lost have low IQs. Brilliant logic, dude!
uh…glad sarcasm isn’t lost on you…?
I guess irony is though…?
as for ‘negative buzz’ and lower viewership…
isn’t that the result of a poor product? That is, the negative buzz doesn’t emerge out of nothing, and if it did, it would certainly NEVER gain enough support to actually impact the show if there weren’t some validity to it.
But thanks for breaking it down for me. And thanks for the compliment! I am a genius!
I personally don’t care if they take the show off the air unless there is some drastic change in quality coming soon. I’m still holding out hope that they will turn it around, but hope is fading fast.
As far as whether dwindling ratings leads to negative buzz or vica verse… That’s one of those fabeled “chicken vs. egg” arguments, so who knows.
it’s not low ratings that begets negative buzz…it’s poor quality that begets low ratings (and negative buzz)…
and don’t confuse lack of support (e.g. Arrested Development) for negative buzz. LOST clearly had great buzz, and a large fan base. but that buzz has dwindled (or reversed) and the number of viewers has as well.
the show obviously still has plenty of viewers (nearly 13 mil), and still lands in the top 20 (I’m pretty sure). but losing 7m+ viewers (from peak to now) isn’t attributable to this or any other ‘anti-LOST’ site.
Maybe Lost is better than Law and Order, but I don’t watch that show either. I guess my standard for watchable TV is just a bit above Lost. Sure, I only watch four shows a week (BSG, Heroes, Veronica Mars, and Rome), but those shows don’t leave me feeling insulted when they are over.
I would be perfectly happy to see Lost get cancelled. It deserves to be cancelled. It has broken faith with the viewer. To keep the mysteries mysteries, the writers make people say and do irrational things.
The show isn’t falling in the ratings because of us haters. The show is falling in the ratings because people have woken up to the fact that they are never going to get any answers. Or, the answers they will get will never compensate for all the crappy flashbacks and meaningless characters they have to suffer through to get to them.
yeah, i’m gonna now spend my time looking for people on the internet who have different opinions than me and bash them. thank you for showing me the light!
“I know that you guys think you’re super clever, but take it from me — you’re not.”
I guess that makes you the “clever judge.”
“But that’s okay, because I assume you guys are all Emmy-nominated screenwriters who could do much, much better.”
My five year old nephew tells better stories.
“I’m not sure people hate you guys because you’re not fans of Lost. I’m pretty sure, though, that people mock you because you’re losers.”
So you spend your time attacking people you deem “losers,” that sir makes you the biggest loser.
Now run along and get a life.
Wow, David, do try and keep up. People have already responded to my post, and I’ve responded to them. We’ve moved on.
You did, however, resort to insulting me, which totally made my day, dude. And attacking people who I think are losers doesn’t make me a loser, Einstein. It means that I can correctly identify losers. Such as you.
Hell, I kind of feel bad for my original post, which was a wee bit on the saucy and angry side. Even LostSkeptic, who I thought would flame the crap out of me, responded to one of my posts intelligently. Good stuff, and not what I expected from this site.
As for your five-year-old nephew, it’s pretty obvious that you’re exaggerating, unless you want to have him hop on the computer and bust out some quick literary fiction for me.
I’m not going to even respond to your “clever judge” bit, because, well, it’s just kind of pathetic.
Is your life so insignificant that you try and bait people to insult you?
Now I just feel sorry for you.
Thanks for your sympathy, but I really don’t need it. But you clearly are far more mature than the rest of us peons on the Internet, so good luck with that.
I have constructed a small shrine dedicated to your maturity and prostrate myself in front of it daily, David. I notice you didn’t respond to pretty much any of my post, but that’s okay, ’cause you probably couldn’t think of anything. Let me know when you do!
It’s ironic that a post that insinuates that the people who will be insulting him regarding his thoughts are beneath him, starts with an insult. Well, done. I’m sorry if the allusion comparing morons who followed a wacked-out cult leader into the jungle to the typical Lost devotee who comes on here and has so bought into the writer’s line of BS about how completely planned out the show is and how brilliant it is that there usual defense is to lecture us on how “we just don’t get it”, is lost on you but I’d say there’s a point to be made. If you didn’t like the joke, so be it…never claimed to be a comedian. You appear to be someone capable of intelligent discourse so at least realize you can’t start a post with an insult and then imply that the people who will subsequently insult you are mouth breathers. I can also say that i can almost guarantee the statistics on who is dolling out insults around here is heavily weighted toward those who come on here and tell us we’re stupid for not understanding the quantum physics that is the Lost plot (with the exception of BigJim and Nico but they’re insulting each other so that doesn’t count)
I think for the most part, the people here would just like to have some smart television to watch which Lost started out as. And, it wouldn’t be as bad if the show had simply degenerated to average. I stopped watching West Wing when it stopped being smart but it never really pissed me off because the writers and producers never really dropped to the level of insulting me as viewer and becoming lazy with such hackneed garbage. And the comments about venting over the internet not being new and that for most this is a diversion and a chance to vent are spot on. By your standard, as someone who agrees that the show has dropped off considerably, I trust that you must also be on the Lost fan sights telling all those people whose posts say such intelligent things “Lost is so super kewl and the most awesomest show of all time and anyone who doesn’t like it is a dummy” that they need to get a life because we all know they’re not living in reality.
All the best.
Stickman, good points. I think a part of me was expecting, and hoping, that there wouldn’t be much sentient life on this site, and I’m actually happy that I was wrong.
My initial post was out of frustration, and here’s why. After I finished watching Wednesday’s ep, I thought to myself “finally! I’ve missed this! Maybe they’re back!” But lo and behold, the episode was still getting slammed.
I’m not a Lost dork. I don’t dabble in Lost theories with my Lost club in my Lost cave with my Lost decoder ring while eating my Dharma Initiative cereal. But I have a lot invested in this show, because when it first started, it was one of only a few that seemed to actually speak to me, with its mysteries and polar bears and all that jazz. I really, really want it to get back to the level it was at. But like you said, I’m not going to blindly follow the show and claim it’s incredible programming. However, I felt Wednesday was a step in the right direction, and it sucks that not everyone agrees. Oh well.
But I shouldn’t have slammed you guys, especially when the level of intelligent discourse on this site seems so high (with the exception of this David schmuck, who appears who dig making assessments against people’s families over the Internet). I’m just against mindlessly bashing a show. I mean, if Lost suddenly had a run of six fantastic episodes, would people still be bashing it? I say probably, because I feel there are people who are going to be dissatisfied no matter what happens.
As far as points 1 through 3 that you brought up below, I actually agree completely. But I’ve written too much already.
How is it “mindlessly bashing” a show to point out and then analyze specific problematic elements of it?
Lost defenders have yet to come up with any good counterpoints to those of us who are pointing out places where it’s jumping the shark big time.
Scroll to the bottom of this page and read some of the comments.
That’s mindless bashing.
What’s sad is these Lost people on the Island aren’t lost. They’re home. They’ve been there for two to three months and no one seems concerned about anything!! They have food and booze that just falls out of the sky. No one is concerned about what’s out there in the jungle, etc. They’re already fighting over romance. Does nobody have anyone waiting for them back in civilization? Doesn’t anybody want to go home?
The van scene was just stupid! You’d think they haven’t seen or driven a vehicle in years! (BTW, wasn’t Hurley’s scene when he was asking the other islanders for help with the van a little reminiscent of Bernards SOS sign scene. They all just look at them, say nothing, and walk away. Lost is copying its own show.)
Kate doesn’t ask the two main guys you would ask for help … Sayid and Locke?? So she goes alone, in the dark, with a big fire stick?
At least this episode had some funny stuff in it. But it didn’t advance it.
We learned the lesson of “Hope”. How many times did they say that word?
” Comment by BigJim
2007-03-01 15:13:18
Well here is my take:
1) I have always said (go back to my old posts) that people who still enjoy lost and want to fix it have low IQs. They become defensive just like hill-jack parents do when you try and tell them that they aren’t good guardians. Low IQ=overly defensive. THUS, Nico has a low IQ. For one he still likes the show and is waaaaaaaay to insulted by my comments. Secondly, he claims to have the first post when his was the third.
2) The show sucked. Get it? ”
this guy isn’t any better than this meatotron. he obviously hates lost, doesn’t watch it, yet wastes alot of his time reading whole shitload of comments and if he spots someone writing positive argument towards lost he attacks that person. you know what, talking about IQs doesn’t make you look smart.truly intelligent man would never put down other people like that if they watch something you don’tlike.
i started visiting this site long ago, when i was i fan. but i never felt insulted by comments and never attacked people to protect lost, because it mainly was constructive criticism and had reason. i live in Russia, and TV is just terrible here, shows are just crap. believe me, its much worse than in america. but when our channel broadcasted first two seasons of lost everyday they even merged every 2 episodes into one big episode. hell, that was awesome i so miss these days!
now, i may be wrong, but im sure that this site is for those who still have little faith in lost, that it will turn around. becasue otherwise they just loose their time.
i don’t know, i really thought this episode was much better than previous one. at least something was actually happening. and that last scene with herley alone in the car…i don’t know i just was glad for him.
oh and yeah, this show is still great because polar bears rule
Wow, Russia uh? That’s cool that people on the other side of the globe are joining this discussion.
I’m not mad at Jim really, & I know what he means. I just wish he wouldn’t have taken my comment about “pissing him off” seriously. It was meant as (what I thought was quite clearly) a joke. The thing is: whatever Tyler’s intent was when he started this site, it has taken on a life of it’s own. If he’s like most people who take the time to create something like this he must take great pleasure in sitting back and watching all this unfold. It’s like a little kid with an ant farm, or dare I say- “God” (at least God of a universe filled with TV obsessed dorks).
I find these sites refreshing simply because it is a forum for me to vent my frustrations with people who share the same consternation. Just as it is wrong for people to make fun of those who still really enjoy LOST, it is wrong for anyone to come down on those of us who are pained by the direction it is going and the magic it no longer holds. Our opinions and, yes, even our complaints are valid.
It’s not like we haven’t watched the show and are simply coming on here to say “Hahaha! You guys who watch LOST are losers! LOST sux!”
Quite the contrary…we love the show and because of that we are so vocal in our displeasure with the current lack of quality of this season’s episodes. I believe that our complaints are legitimate and the drop in viewership is a prime example.
My suggestion for those who still love LOST and dig the episodes is this: Instead of coming to this board and calling those who complain “losers”, try posting why you think LOST is still good. Perhaps you see something that we have missed? Believe me, we WANT to love this show. If you can give us something to hold on to, something to look forward to each week, we would be in your debt.
You are much more optimistic sounding than I my friend. I honestly think it’s probably too late to save the shambling wreck this show has become. I mean, Cheech for God’s sake…Cheech *starts to sob*
how ’bout that hair [piece]? funny.
I think someone else pointed out two redeeming ‘funnies’ in the show:
- big boy’s mom covering JC’s ears when she talked about s-e-x
- her comment about the chefs being hired away from bennigans
Yes, Cheech’s appearance is part of a pattern that has me concerned. We are starting to see “special guest appearances” which, as you know, have signalled the downward spiral of many a show in the past. Is it just a matter of time before we see a trailer for “A Very Special Episode of LOST”?
Yeah, I mean having Aunt Zelda from Sabrina the Teenage Witch playing Kate’s mom was about as “special” a guest appearance as you can get.
PS) The first person to ask how I know who Aunt Zelda is gets there inbox flooded with porno spam.
Deal. Provided you don’t ask me how I know about “That’s So Raven” and “Hannah Montana”.
Fair enough. I’ll try.
Last Wednesday’s episode, IMO, was vintage season-one Lost, and reflected many of the themes that got me into the show in the first place. Granted, no serious questions were answered and no major mysteries were resolved, but everything I’ve missed from the show — the survivor camaraderie, the actual sharing of information between castaways, comic relief, and displays of real friendship between the island-dwellers — was all there. Though I can’t pinpoint exactly why, I had a really, really good feeling about Wednesday’s episode.
Then I hop onto the Internet and it’s, of course, getting slammed left and right (though the positive response was actually really high for this week’s ep). And what irritated me the most was that all of the complaints? They were dumb, minor nitpicks, like “why did Rousseau seem so shocked when Kate said that Alex was her daughter?” Or people chuckling and saying, “Oh, look! The only mystery they solved was how Hurley got fat! He ate a chocolate bar when he was a kid!”
The episode reminded me of the one where Hurley built a golf course — they’re a bunch of people who survived a plane crash who are just trying to find some common ground, something to make them feel normal again. This episode was kind of like that for me — it made me feel normal about the show again.
Sorry if I sounded angry before. I was. You think I believe the show’s perfect? I don’t CARE, for instance, about who Kate hooks up with. I wouldn’t care if she got killed off the show completely. But for every person who complains about the Kate-Sawyer-Jack storyline, there’s another person who loves it. It’s going to be impossible for the creators to reach some kind of common ground for every single fan of the show, so I think it’s unfair to write it off so quickly.
I would agree with you except for 1 thing:
You said the episode reminded you of the one with the golf course & agree completely. Problem is, we already had that episode. Instead of advancing the plot & coming up with new ways to make us feel, they give us a rehash of something that worked great the first time. Another example, at the end of the episode when we get the musical montage I thought: “hey, this feels kinda’ right”. Then I realized it was the same exact feeling I had at the end of the episode when Hurley passes out the Dharma food. You can’t set up a show for an intelligent audience (supposedly) & then insult thier intelligence by reusing the same story lines over & over again.
I don’t disagree with your assessment (i.e. themes reminiscent of season 1). however, as I mentioned above, I think the show has stagnated for so long that now I’m much less satisfied with the character develepment parts of the show.
my patience has been tested, worn down. early on (e.g. season 1), it was easy to forgive whatever little holes appeared in the plot b/c the story was compelling and whatever char dev they did worked fine. but after 50+ episodes and stagnant (or jumbled) plot development, trying to satiate the viewer by reverting to things that worked 2 years ago seems disingenuous.
That’s also fair enough. And I gotta say that I was expecting I would be nothing but flamebait when I found this site — I’m glad that you guys, for the most part, have proven me wrong. I wouldn’t say it’s disingenous on the writers’ parts to go back to a formula that works: lots of television shows do it. I think it’s just more noticeable with Lost, which is more closely analyzed than other programs.
I will say that the writers are focusing on the wrong things. The Jack-Kate-Sawyer love triangle, Jack’s idiotic tattoos (Damon and Carlton think the world is fascinated by these freaking tattoos. I’m pretty sure no one is), etc. etc.
Let me post this question: is there anything that could, in the minds of anyone here, save the show?
There is one point I’d like to make, though — the Lost writers don’t design or plan the episode promos, so hating an episode based on a network’s misleading promos isn’t really fair. I’ve seen several sites complaining about that.
I agree with you and these guys on the ep this last week. It did have that simplistic character-study quality that was reminiscent of season 1. But, I think the problem, as stated before has to do with the long standing stagnation of the show that when nothing (continues) to happen, we all just get more and more irritated. Plus, the golf course episode was very early on when you can make a good case for establishing the characters, the survivor mentality, the “reaching for normalcy and hope” issue, still discovering what the island is all about, etc. That ship has long since sailed. I saw this as the equivalent of a novel, late in the story taking the time to go back and describe again the inner workings of the main character without adding anything knew that added to the story after it had been fully covered in chapter 1.
Regarding your: what can be done to save this show?
Here are the things that ruined the show for me, which unfortunately, since you can’t go back in time and undo them, may be “unfixable” at this point:
1. Well established characters began doing things that were TOTALLY out of the character that had been created about them just to advance a plot thread
2. Playing to the lowest common denominator with the writing. If people can’t remember or “get” that Hurley is cursed and Sawyer is a con-man with a heart of gold and Kate is tortured (and Jack and Sawyer and Locke and pretty much everyone else is some way), then so be it. Don’t keep beating a dead horse.
3. Flashbacks that have outlived their usefulness. The flashbacks were important for character development. Now, just a waste of time so that they don’t have to have anything actually happen on the island. The flashbacks, as others have pointed out, have gotten to the point that if the story was told in chronological order, you’d never get to the point when they crashed on the island because all the precursor garbage would wear you out. What would have been wrong with using the flashbacks as a staple early on and then phasing them out (or at least cutting down) once their purpose had been served.
I know there’s more but I should get off this website and go get a life.
perhaps our expectations for the show are different (or our hopes for it anyway). I remember season 1 being particularly good BECAUSE of the characters and their development. in fact, if pressed, I think I could dig up an early article in EW or some similar mag where CC or someone said that the show was more about characters than the ‘mysteries of the island’.
my frustration, and dissatisfaction with returning to a formula that works/worked, is that the show seemed to being building to something much more. it had…momentum, and a lot of it! but now it seems to really just slog along, and the character development we see seems redundant (how many ways can we see a despondant jack?!?!). you dig?
I read something on MSNBC recently about how struggling shows are rescued. a former producer from Melrose Place (no joke) said that they need to add conflict or romance. the romance part that already exists in many forms is more than I care to see. the conflict is something I think they had with Locke vs. Jack/Jack vs. Sawyer. Then Locke vs. Eko/the Losties vs. the Talies/the Losties vs. the Others. But I think they’ve squandered that. And I’m not sure how they recapture it.
It’s quite tiring reading through the multitude of comments by one loquacious, yet pointless, posters on this forum, when trying to read the salient points of others. It degrades the experience. It is always most unfortunate when this occurs on a posting platform.
I also watch this show from overseas, and can tell you that this show stood apart from the multitude of drivel, and banal (how many CSIs are there?) programs being shipped from American shores. Sure, it has taken a turn for the worse, but that has probably more to do with the fact that the creator, Abrahms threw the outline in the laps of his writers while he went off to make Star Trek 20 and another program which already tanked. Still, when compared to the inordinate amount of awful television that exists, Lost still exceeds 99% of them. My viewing consists of Lost, Heroes, PBS Frontline, Discovery Atlas, and Southpark. That’s about it. Out of the multitude of channels and programs, I do not watch any else bedises the ones mentioned. That’s simply because most others are complete trash.
I still watch lost because despite it’s forays into suckiness, it is stilll better than all the other garbage. Is it really worth throwing in the towel? Or, is it better to give it achance? The writers know their mistake, however this season’s episodes are in the can, and we can at least expect that next season will really start to answer the questions that may or may not go unanswered this season.
Hang in there… there’s really not much better out there!
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Nice Job Skeptic, you are officially the winner of the agrivate the French (speaking at least) person contest!!!
Of course Laurent, all my posts put together have only a slightly higher word count than both of yours. So don’t get yr panties in a bunch, k? I will try to keep my posts down to just a few novella length musings as to enhance yr viewing experience.
ha! crap…I was hoping it was you!
Dude, step away from the thesaurus and take a deep breath. 99% of television sucks, that is certain. Personally, I think lost belongs in that 99%, but does my opinion matter to you? Honestly, I don’t care what you watch except for the fact that you seem to be trying to convince us that you are really smart by using big words and telling us you watch PBS Frontline (Wow! Public Broadcasting that’s the channel for the smart people).
I will not give the writers a chance. I am not going to be patient. I think two years and 40+ episodes is enough time to invest in a show going nowhere. My attention span is just fine, thank you very much, I just choose not to waste the few hours I have to watch on shows that are dull and pointless. Can anyone honestly say they enjoy the flashbacks? Can anyone really tell me they think the characters are deep and original?
If there is trully “not much better out there” (and you are ignoring BSG, Veronica Mars, Psych (the least of these shows), and Rome), then I would rather read a book than sit in front of the TV.
Then go grab your picture-book. Why waste further your precious hours defending why you dislike a program that had already wasted your time? Seems you need some tutelage in time management, no?
No need to highlight your self-conceipt for being slapped in the face with ‘big words’. English is my second language. I don’t think PBS is for “smart people”, I think it’s for the broad viewership that constitutes the American Public as the name suggets, and by no means by citing it was I trying to draw some corollary to the contrary. Also, I did watch Rome, here as it is a joint UK, Euro and US production. A great program. Otherwise, I will not waste my time watching crime scenes, murder scenes, murderer’s mind scenes and other redundant programs that gravitate and revolve around constant death.
Here I’ll posit an existential probllem for you:
What is your point?
Laurent-
Why are yuo here? You love the show so much, why would yuo come to a site called WhyLostSucks? Seems to me you have the time management issue. I am exactly where I want to be and you are so bored you are trolling for someone to fight with. Why are you wastnig your precious hours here and not at the Fuselage site with all the other rabid Lost fanatics.
I come here because I used to be shouted down at Aintitcool for daring to say that Lost was being made up. I came here because I liked the fact that other people felt cheated by the show too and I continue to come here to see how many people have joined the ranks. I find it vaguely comforting to see that more and more people are coming to the same conclusion – LOST SUCKS.
As far as you being a speaker of English as a second language… I call Bullshit. I’ve taught ESL for years and people don’t learn their second languages like you seem to have. Not a single grammatic error in your whole post. You use English like an American. So, bullshit on your being a foreigner.
I dunno’ they have some pretty good schools in Europe. When I was AFS in high school the German students who came here to study spoke English as well as I did. Still, do French speaking people really say (or even more odd: type) “no?” at the end of a sentence like Peppy Le Pue?
Strangely though, Laurent & I have similar taste in TV. Other than Lost & a hand full of sitcoms all I watch is “educational” programming (I mean that in a broad sense- Discovery channel isn’t always very educational at all). I also loath CSI, Law & Order, 24, BSG, Heroes & most of the other garbage average Americans eat up. I’m not ripping on people who like those shows, they’re just no to my taste. Which, again brings me to the point: it really sucks they’ve f**ked up one of my few guilty pleasures as far as TV goes.
As for me as not being foreign, or a non-native English speaker, you can confirm through the site administrator by way of my IP address I suppose. I refined my English at an American University and learned the foundations and elementary usage at other schools in the EU prior to that. Otherwise, I’m not sure what recourse you have as far as proof.
Anyway, I found this site after watching a particularly frustrating episode this season. I’m not bored, I’m just looking to see if my reaction is a shared one, and I quite enjoy reading other people’s takes on the same thing. I told my wife I had it with this show, and just did a random search in the passion of the moment by typing “Lost Sucks” and presto, it appeared! I feel that the creator of this site, like me, enjoyed it at one time, but due to the sloppiness of the writer’s, or the fact that there never was an outline for a program they never believed would be picked up, or both, it began to deteriorate towards the end of season 2. Perhaps he only watches because he has a popular site on his hands and feels compelled to keep contributing, or, as I suspect, he’s hoping through the popularity of his site that someone will take heed and right the Lost ship’s course. I think we all hate that the writer’s are squandering a show that is good at its core.
I was particularly tired last season after the mysteries surrounding Hurley in the sanitarium and the pointlessness behind Ecko the priest. This season was quite bad with Ecko, and the monotonous episodes with ‘the others’ and the animal cages. I was at the breaking point. I was bored, and ready to quit. I also detest Juliet’s stupid botox smile. I really didn’t want to see a backstory on her (the Portland episode). This season has been a complete waste in my view. However, I did enjoy the episode surrounding the backstory of Desmond. I like the selflessness of his character, and because he seems removed from the other knuckleheads. I also like how he says, “brother”, as superfluous as that may sound. The scene where he is crushed by his potential father-in-law was moving, for me, and the fact that this episode partially explained why he is not dead vindictaed that episode. The foreshadowing of Charlie’s death was welcome to me, as I find that his character is too out-and-about, or completely mad. Then, the following week, back to shit, no? We have ‘the others’ and Sawyer and Kate, and Jack backflashes to explain a tattoo.
I was angry again, and checked here to see who registered their complaints. However, I went back to watch again this week, and although the episode was pretty bad, I did have a few laughs and welcomed seeing the characters I do like: Locke, Sayid, Hurley and Desmond. I like Jin, but as a former thug and hit-man, he seems underused in this regard. He needs to become the badass that he was.
I suppose I want vindication when seeing people addressing the same complaints. My wife tends to think I’m overboard in my critiques, but I want some answers, some flow. I also want more wallowing characters jettisoned (Juliet, Claire and her stupid baby, Charlie). I’ll keep watching and keep checking in. I’ll offer my criticisms, but to the contrary, I’m not afraid to say what I did enjoy, or what I did consider as progress.
I would say that I agree with about 90% of what you say, but you’d just complain I’m posting too much. Oh s**t, too late!
I’ll vouch for Laurent. His IP is not coming from the U.S.
Okay, yuo might really be French. Why not write your next post in French and remove all doubt. Just kidding.
Really though. Too many people take this show WAY too seriously. Now don’t treat me like I am brain damaged for not liking Lost. I think it is hackwork and the writers just don’t know how to tell a good story. The final reveal might be the most amazing thing ever, but the journey shouldn’t be this dull.
Nico says he doesn’t like BSG. I think it is one of the greatest shows on television but I don’t hold it aginst him for not liking it. I am not going to call him a loser or a retard or anything. We have different tastes.
This website is for those of us who finally gave up on Lost ever being good and just want to take a few stabs at it now and again. I think most of the crticism is well derserved. You can preserve a mystery by having characters ignore things they have seen, not share information (Hey guys, I fuond this fake beard. Do you think it means anything?), and talk in hyroglyphics (”we took the good ones”), but, while it preserves the mystery, it is poor and uncreative writing. It is lazy and insulting. Heroes did it a few times at the beginning of its run and I was ready to de-TIVO, but the writers turned their act around for the second half of the season and I feel the show is really, really good.
If Lost’s mysteries are so essential that they can’t reveal them without ruining the show, then they should have just made it a mini-series and left everyone saying “you remember that show Lost? It was the coolest thing ever”. Now, I bet you are going to hear people say “Remember Lost? Yeah, it was really good for the first season and then they screwed it up in the second and I never bothered finishing the third”.
Truth, brother.
I was very amused by Lost after watching Season 1. Thought it was very interesting and suspenseful and everything else that made people like it in the first place. The second season went here and there but was still overall good and had me tuned in. Season three is where everything has gone to shit.
These Others went from interesting to a bunch of useless, dumb, f*c@*ing idiots. That stupid doctor lady has that god awful annoying smile that makes you wish she gets hit by a bus. You got a billion characters that they should have an episode where they mass murder 10 of them in one shot… kill that fucker Charlie already.
The plot is absolutely not moving anywhere. The writers/producers have hit a road block and can’t push the story further without revealing everything and ending the show, but they need to drag it out for a few more years. Why else would you have people sitting around building wooden houses and washing clothes and jump starting beat up vans.
But… like everyone else on this blog complaining, I will tune in again next week and hope they answer some god damn questions and not have an episode where we see a flashback of Locke as a toddler and his birthday party at Chuck E Cheese.
I can’t believe how entertaining these comments and flame wars are getting. Especially Nico and Lostskeptic. You guys rock!
Dude, bandwagon city. You might want to look up “groupthink” in the dictionary. I have no problem with either Nico or Skeptic, but I do have a problem with people who can’t cobble together rational, independent thoughts.
I watched 20 minutes of last nights LOST and was bored.
Here are a few observations that I don’t think were covered yet.
The slow montage of Sawyer and Kate coming back was unnecessary and out of character. Everyone is happily greeting Sawyer who was “the new sheriff in town” only a few days ago. Suddenly the greediest thief of the island gets a warm welcome like he was a well loved and missed character?
The whole light hearted approach to the episode might have been easier to swallow had something moved the plot along in the last 3 episodes.
I hope they kill off the new guy and girl soon, their screen time is painful.
I accept that Laurent is not a native English speaker. Although his grammar is quite good, I notice that he has occasional problems with possessives which are much different in French. Sort of like how Asians have a difficult time with articles and prepositions when they learn English because they don’t exist in their languages.. I’m sure he has a big crush on Rousseau regardless who, unfortunately, is now the lamest character on Lost. In Season 1, they used her mysteriousness to good effect — a live human being on the island not among the plane crash survivors. She was also had a whole borderline psychotic feminist “I have been wandering the jungle looking for my daughter for 16 years” feel to her.
But now we find out that there is not only a whole army of “others” on the island, but that they have a f***king modern town right in the middle of the island and Rousseau’s daughter has been living there all along! And yet this bad ass tracker who has been mapping the island for 16 years or whatever is totally oblivious to it!!! Oh come on, give me a break! They should have just written her out of the script (like Chuck on Happy Days), but instead we have to find out what kind of tortured explanation the writers will offer up to explain Rousseau’s denseness — does the village have a cloaking device surrounding it which prevented her from discovering it? Or maybe some kind of space time force field? Or better yet, maybe Rousseau is a spy for the Others duping them all along. They painted themselves into a corner, and it should afford some pretty good comic relief to see how they resolve it.
Hey guys, can someone clean this shark crap out of my hair after it jumped over and defecated on me while I drove in circles in my stupud VW bus? Thanks.
- Hurely
Man, Now THAT is some funny shit right there…
ok if you hate lost so much why make a thread on it to talk about the episodes. you people make no sense. well i guess its cause your from the stupid parts of america. i wont be coming back on this site so no need to retaliate. IM FROM BRITAIN. i agree with meatnormous. there is no point in having a site to talk about why you hate lost, normal people stop watching. i have no problem with you not liking the show, i have a problem with you making aimless sites like this. you watch the show for an hour, and you hate it….hmmm ok
i stopped watching! but i stop by just to check how the community is doing. i highly suggest the quitting method.
I do not wish to start a feud, but like Monsieur Obi-Wan-Kenobi said, “Who is the more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him?”
I quote these pertinent words because you are posting on a site that you labeled ‘nonsensical’ and ‘aimless’, to people you labeled as ‘Americans from stupid parts’. I am not sure what part of Great Britain you may hale, but let us pray your neighbors can pull your slack when of trying to live up to the “Great” part.
and yet you felt the need to look this site up then read down these post’s then post a comment. It would seem your a distant relative of us stupid americans, oh and in america it’s alright for us to make sites and post our expressions even if you don’t like it. in america it’s called freedom of speech, it’s why we kick your sorry tea drinking asses all those years ago, why don’t you go pop off and ask god to save you insepid queen or some such thing…
NOTE: I AM NOW WATCHING LOST ONLY FOR MOCKERY
I’ve decided to keep watching “Lost,” but only for it’s fantastic mockworthy potential. It’s comedy gold!
I’m just going to treat it like Laguna Beach or the Real Housewives of Orange County or ANY reality show and mock mock mock mock mock my way into not shooting the TV.
Honestly, I think Lost reminds me of “Best in Show” or “Drop Dead Gorgeous.” It’s a mockumentary of retarded people on an enchanted island, and they all don’t get it yet.
Here is my own answer to why I watch ‘Lost’ when I hate it so much:
The facscination with ‘Lost’ goes beyond watching the program. The viewers’ reaction and musings on the show is actually part of the experience of the show itself. Every possible answer to the show’s “mysteries” has been dreamed up by some Lost nerd somewhere. It is obvious that the show’s writers/producers are in tune with the Internet buzz and have a lot of pressure on them to come up with something new/shocking. The result is that, by not coming up with something new/shocking, they have to string the audience along with trumped up canards (Jack’s tattoos, etc . . .) and boring soap opera melodrama (Kate and Sawyer) while biding their time in hope of brainstorming some mindfreaking conclusion that will explain everything in a way that satisfies all the Lost geeks.
As any objective obsever has figured out by now, this will not happen, and it is entertaining to watch the whole Ponzi scheme collapse on itself. Really, the only thing I get out of actually watching Lost anymore is necessary information (or better yet, the lack of information) to understand the greater drama of the ‘Lost’ phenomenon eating itself alive. The online plot is much more intriguing than any plot on the show.
It is similar in some way I guess to the perverse pleasure I use to get as a kid from watching my dog look in the mirror and think there was another dog in the other room behind the mirror, and running back and forth barking. So in a way, with the magic of the Internet, ‘Lost’ is much more interesting than it ever was! Maybe the Lost creators can think of a way of merging the plot line of the show with the Lost Internet discussions and make all of us a character in the show too! Now that would be creative.
Nice. Nuff said.
People like JT & Meatnormous live small little lives.
They blindly love a crappy show (that was once great), and feel the need to attack those that “aren’t as smart as they are.”
Who knows, maybe Daddy left them when they were little, and Mommy only spent time with them between boyfriends. Being deprived of affirmation when young, they now turn online looking for it.
They lack a creative streak, and selfishness has kept them from doing anything altruistic. So, attacking others while hiding behind their IP address, is really all they have to make themselves feel important.
They should be pitied and ignored.
David, that has got to be the most inane thing I’ve ever had the displeasure of seeing on the Internet.
I’ll go line by line.
“People like JT & Meatnormous live small little lives.”
– As opposed to small big lives, right? Or large small lives? Or tiny big lives?
“They blindly love a crappy show (that was once great), and feel the need to attack those that “aren’t as smart as they are.”
– My initial post was out of frustration, and I already apologized for it. If you could carefully remove your head from your rectum and read my other posts, you’d see that. Whether or not the show is crappy is a matter of opinion. I’ve had some intelligent replies to my follow-up posts, but you apparently feel the need to rally the troops and defend the site’s honor.
“Who knows, maybe Daddy left them when they were little, and Mommy only spent time with them between boyfriends. Being deprived of affirmation when young, they now turn online looking for it.”
– Your clear lack of psychological expertise notwithstanding, this really, really, really makes no sense. In any event, I’m not twelve, so attacks against my parents aren’t really going to affect me too much.
“They lack a creative streak, and selfishness has kept them from doing anything altruistic. So, attacking others while hiding behind their IP address, is really all they have to make themselves feel important. ”
What the hell does creativity have to do with altruism, Dave? There’s really no connection, unless you’re talking about some creative form of charity outreach. In any event, it has nothing to do with the television show. Unless you’re just blindly grasping for insults, which it certainly appears you are.
Thanks alot guys, I just sat inside on a beautiful Florida Sunday afternoon and read 10,000 posts. Both sides, for the most part, are very entertaining reads. (Locke at Chucky Cheese will be retold at work tommorow)
JT you are brave to hold your ground in enemy territory. /wink I just posted on lost-forum.com and am waiting to see if I’ll be lynched.
I used to hold Lost parties at my place. After last week’s ep my guests flipped my truck over, shaved my dog, and burned all my boxers.
I’m still holding out hope. I’ve set up another TV and play Playstation while I semi-watch. This alleviates the stress because when the Lifetime Magic Moment music comes on I can look away from the carnage.
“I used to hold Lost parties at my place. After last week’s ep my guests flipped my truck over, shaved my dog, and burned all my boxers. ”
true friends would’ve shaved you, flipped your dog, and burned your truck. ::sigh:: so many lives ruined b/c of this show….
haha.. right on!
Yeah, good luck. Rabid fans of *any* television show are usually blind to any valid criticism of said. And I don’t see this — with the exception of that assclown David, who is apparently the doting nanny and courageous defender of the whylostsucks.com community — as enemy territory. I’m just gonna take a page from RobbyLove’s playbook and try to point out the positive points of each episode. Unless Tyler bans my ass.
And here’s the thing: I have no problem criticizing a program if there’s *reason* for it. But it gets really asinine when people start bashing a television show episode that hasn’t even aired based on a one-sentence piece of promotional copy released by ABC. That’s not even helpful to *anybody*, much less the powers-that-be involved with the production process.
It actually strikes me as counter-productive — it gets some people hating the episode before anyone even has had a chance to watch it. If you want to flame an episode, Christ, at least wait until you’ve actually watched it. No offense.
Johnny you’re right on about this not being enemy territory. We are the greatest fans of the show. Because it is us that hold it to the high standard set forth in the first season.
Never fear if you are all out of Boxers. I’m sure some plane will drop a crate full of Dharma Initiative boxers any second now. Wait for it…… wait for it…….
Ever since the writers provided for every need through parachuting Dharma boxes, they wiped out the point of them being on a deserted island. Oh wait, it’s Lost, there is no point.
Which brings us to the question of Hurley’s weight. Is it me or has he actually gotten fatter? Also, on the issue of personal grooming, I suppose Dharma must have dropped a few crates of shampoo, make-up, deoderant, body lotion and razers (post destruction of the hatch) because everyone looks exceptionally well groomed for a bunch of ragged castaways. If the plot had not degenerated to this point, I would be willing to suspend my disbelief on such trivial details, but it is increasingly difficult to ignore so many affronts to plausibility as the story gets more rancid. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. How about a nice spin in a rusted piece of junk VW that has been exposed to the elements for who knows how long?
It’s a DHARMA BUS, GOD! Why did you think it was a VW?????
First of all, whether Dharma or VW, the vehicle in question was NOT a “bus” but a van. And secondly, it looked like a VW with a Dharma logo slapped on it. Thirdly, you have missed the entire point of my post and finally, you hurt my feelings.
Sorry to hurt your feelings. A DHARMA CARE PACKAGE with a DHARMA SORRY CARD will be dropping from the sky any second now. Wait for it… wait for it…
/sob It WILL get better… It WILL get better… It WILL get better!!!
Don’t count on it, this week we will be treated to a ping pong showdown between Sawyer and Sun. That’s right, we get to enjoy Lost writers capitalizing on the “Asians are awesome at ping pong stereotype” and see Sawyer humbled! Next week on Lost: Eko comes back to life just in time to win the island slam dunk contest!
slam dunk contest…excellent.
reminds me of the scene from ‘airplane’ when the peace corps volunteers introduced b-ball to the locals
I think it’s a little late for that.
Good God, I stay away from the computer for the weekend (my poor eyes needed a break) & come back to find the place has exploded in anarchy (well, some really snarky posts anyway). YIPPPPEEEE!!!! I told you this place’s stock was on the rise.
Maybe the Lost fan boys will create their own site now. peoplewhohatepeoplethatsaylostsucks.com
Although it is unlikely that the folks that like to attack the people on this site will ever “create” anything.
Is this the sparkling prose we can expect in your first television pilot, Dave? Such razor-sharp wit! If you’ve been paying attention, the only person who’s being attacked on this site lately is you, and it’s not because of your Lost beliefs — it’s because you’re acting like a gigantic tool.
I’ll tell you what, dawg. If those two remaining brain cells you’ve got rattling around up there manage to scrape together and form a coherent thought that doesn’t involve this mysterious plague of “Lost fanboys” waiting to disparage your television-show-hating name, go ahead and post it and maybe you’ll get some civil responses. Life isn’t just black and white, Davey — there are shades of gray. There are people who like some aspects of the show and hate others, and I think some people on this site would agree with me, even if they don’t want to. If you’re going to keep posting this drivel about how the rival gangs of “Lost fanboys” and “Lost haters” are locked in an eternal battle over the quality of a television show, I’ll just continue attacking your messages until I see you post something with even the smallest shred of rational thought.
Actually if people like “meatnormous” (that handle… oh God, that handle…) are any indication of what a true Lost fanboy is like I think David is probably giving them too much credit.
wow, this blog has grown since i first saw it, it’s comments have been doubling every week. i bet it’ll get some publicity if they keep up with the lame shows. for the sake of all the people that still watch, i hope the show gets better. i really do. but i don’t believe it will, that’s why i chose not to watch anymore.
this episode (3/7) was totally lame! they didn’t answer any significant or interesting questions while raising a dozen MORE questions, sawyer has gone full blown metro and is more annoying than anything, the flashbacks offered nothing new about [insert character], and they introduce another new character – are you kidding me!?
just getting my hits in early…
Dude, whatever. Tonight’s episode was phenomenal, and we finally learned what the deal was with the other portion of Jack’s tattoo!
Though I’ll defend the show when I think it’s being unfairly slammed, I’ll totally agree with pretty much the entire world that the obsession with Jack’s tattoos on the part of the writers has got to stop.
oh brother…how many more tattoo-centric episodes could there be?!?!
wow look who’s become this sites’ top commenter.
“You utter tools have decided to dedicate your Internet lives to posting about a show that, judging from the URL of this site, you completely loathe, thereby ruining it for the rest of the people who still actually watch. If you don’t like it, then you might want to move on and, gosh, I don’t know — get a hobby”
I think somebody better take their own advice and get a hobby.
That’s because I never really get tired of ripping your posts to shreds, David! You’re the only person who seems to really be going after me — are my posts making you sad? Hang in there!
Instead of quoting from the *first* comment I posted, why don’t you quote from the *other* ones where I’m not nearly as malicious? I mean, I know you seem to lack the capability of abstract thought, but give it a shot sometime.
Christ. I hope the rest of the regulars here don’t look up to this schmuck.
he’s only 4′ 3″ tall, how could we?!?!
*rim shot please*
i haven’t read any of your other posts, past the 2nd one, and now this one.
I promptly dismissed your lame attempts at humor and attacks as a needy cry for attention.
It’s all good, dawg. I attribute your inability to read more than two posts as evidence of either serious mental retardation or a lack of any legitimate response to the points I raised. Expect a delightful reply, courtesy of the one and only Johnny Truant, to each pompous, arrogant message you post. I’ll continue to be civil to everybody else, as they seem to have functioning brains.
I’m not going to even address your “needy cry for attention” bit, because you already said it in one of your other insane posts. Redundant much?
“I’m not going to even address your “needy cry for attention” bit, because you already said it in one of your other insane posts. Redundant much?”
And you continue to prove me right
Boy, I thought me ‘n’ Big Jim had a nice go ’round. I don’t even remember what you guys are fighting about anymore!
How dense are you, exactly? It has nothing to do with neediness or attention-seeking. It has to do with the fact that I see you as an elitist schmuck, and will continue posting as such until I see you post something that isn’t decidedly lame. Also, you can’t seem to stop replying yourself, can you? Am I really getting to you that much?
Hard to believe I’m trying to get through to someone who thinks that a person’s posting habits somehow has something to do with the way they were parented. Face it, dude — your pathetic attempts to save some shred of dignity are failing miserably. You remain, as always, a gigantic tool. Good luck!
This conversation has turned nastier than a stale Dharma beer fart. Or Hurley’s butt-cheese, or… well you get the point.
“Boy, I thought me ‘n’ Big Jim had a nice go ’round. I don’t even remember what you guys are fighting about anymore!”
Actually Nico.
I’m not really fighting. I am merely pointing out the flaws of someone who came to this site attacking everyone, calling them losers for posting here and then continues to post.
He, on the other hand, seems to be fixated on me, commenting on everything I say.
It doesn’t really bother me because, as I said before I just skip past his rants, and read what everyone else has to say.
Well, I was really just kidding around. It all seemed to start in good fun anyway. Of course being that JT came here proclaiming that he still likes the show & was going to try to defend it- he should have known what he was in for. It pays to have a thick skin round these parts.
Nico, my man, you can go right ahead and ignore what David just said, because it’s utter horseshit. I’ll go ahead and quote the message that David posted before, and let the readers decide!
David’s original message:
“People like JT & Meatnormous live small little lives.
They blindly love a crappy show (that was once great), and feel the need to attack those that “aren’t as smart as they are.”
Who knows, maybe Daddy left them when they were little, and Mommy only spent time with them between boyfriends. Being deprived of affirmation when young, they now turn online looking for it.
They lack a creative streak, and selfishness has kept them from doing anything altruistic. So, attacking others while hiding behind their IP address, is really all they have to make themselves feel important.
They should be pitied and ignored.”
David, being an idiot, posted this message AFTER I essentially settled all my differences with the posters I offended with my initial post: NONE OF WHOM, by the way, made ad hominem attacks on me. I quickly slammed him back and dissected his entire idiotic post.
Because my replies are making him cry, apparently, he now chooses to take some kind of moral high ground, looking at me and my posts as if I were some kind of trained ape rattling the keyboard around.
Instead of admitting that he fucked up, however, the jerkoff keeps posting tripe like “You’re an attention-seeker!” Give it up, David. No one’s leaping to support you here.
Also, is this David the same David who posted guest blog entries on this very site? Don’t even get me started on those.
Okay, “This conversation has turned nastier than a stale Dharma beer fart” was hilarious, but please do not ever bring up Hurley’s butt-cheese again. I beg you.
so much anger.
It’s like watching a monkey yelling at it’s own reflection.
Maybe in a next life he will get one.
Good one, David! I see you’re still ignoring all of the completely valid points I’m making about your crappy post, but keep responding with one-line insults! It’ll keep me going!
This weeks episode jumped the shark yet again except this time it pulled the stunt off with a bus and in place of a shark they used a bong with a little help from cheech.
This was the episode that made me stop watching on primetime and catch it either on ABC.com if I even give a damn. I know it could have been any one of the last episodes that came after a long hiatus which i suspect had little to do with confusing lost devotees with re-runs and more to do with hiding this talentless shows murky episodes from the public until the end of the season, that way they still had market share before feb. sweeps. Maybe the real nail in the coffin for this show is that JJ Abrams isn’t doing anything with it anymore. He’s off to make another Star Trek movie, which should do well since the mindless LOSt devotees will no doubt follow his path to that failed franchise.
Things I predict for future LOST episodes:
1. We will find out Locke lost his ability to walk in some incident with Hurly’s bad luck, only Locke never knew who it was and how it happened.
2. Jack will become a leader and in doing so he’ll fight against it and it will make him cranky and loveless.
3. We will be introduced to new characters all of which will die off by season 4.
4. Jack will find out he has a long lost twin brother who will take his place with the survivors.
5. The show will dwindle in ratings below the 10 milion mark but will continue to be blamed on poor time slot / and competition.
6. At some point they will bring on Rosie O’ddonel if only to see what she’ll say next.
yess. welcome to my world. i’m not gonna hate lost anymore. i’m just not watching it anymore. people know how i felt about it and i’ve made my peace. i hope it lives up to the hype for the sake of all those that still watch. and i agree how watching to criticize it is sorta a waste of time.
Upcoming scene between Sayid and “Patchy”:
Sayid (stepping over piles of cow dung, enters the “Flame” Station to see Patchy sitting at a computer terminal):
Hello there Patchy, is it true that you are really Charlie’s brother Liam?
Patchy: What moron told you that? No, my name is Mikhail Bakunin, does that name ring any bells?
Sayid: Yes! The renowned “Father of Anarchism”! Wow, what will the writers think of next? We already have a John Locke, David Hume, and Edmund Burke. This one will keep the Lost messageboards and fansites buzzing for weeks!
Patchy: Of course they should all ignore the fact that I am a confirmed anti-Semite, that wouldn’t go over too well in today’s world of political correctness.
Sayid: To the contrary Patchy — er I mean Mikhail — they have already made my character out to be a stereotypical terrorist, torturing Arab and, of course, any American in tune with Republican “war on terror” propaganda already knows that Arabs hate the Jews and want Israel wiped off the map. So we should get along really well.
Patchy: Um, there is one problem with that theory my Bedouin friend, the term “semite” includes Arabs, so I obviously hate you too. Now get out of my freaking hatch Osama!
(Patchy shoots Sayid with a bazooka — Sayid is hit but not mortally and he scurries out of Patchy’s fort/farm).
heh heh…is it wrong to laugh?
Wowza!!! Good one man. Funny & politically relevant.
WOW, this show is DEEEEEEEEEEEEP. The readers pulled names out of Wikipedia.
Honestly, I think I nailed the show. It’s a joke, like War of the Worlds, except instead of fooling Americans into thinking it’s an invasion, they’re going for the Long Con of making Americans think this show has a point.
NEXT WEEK: John Steward Mill and Ignatius Loyola will debate whether God would do an Evil thing to make a Good thing happen.
Oh, and Patchie loses the other Eye when Rousseau attempts to shoot someone else.
ha! excellent.
I forgot all about Patchy.
You seem to have a better understanding and memory than the LOST writers.
Oh, but Patchy is going to be PROMINANTLY featured in tonights episode according to the always accurate previews. I’m sure it won’t be a flashback about a ping pong match on a regulation Dharma Brand (TM) ping pong table.
hahhaha
boy I can’t wait for Patchy’s flashback.
Or a smaller ego that isn’t resting on the laurels of the first season and a half…
the producers might as well show hurley, sawyer, jin and charlie having a hot foursome in the VW bus if they want to drag the show.
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