Darling Nikki
After tonight’s episode, my mood towards Lost has gone from mild amusement to downright hostile contempt. That had to have been one of the top 3 worst episodes ever. I just don’t see the logic of introducing 2 completely throw-away characters, then killing them off in a meaningless episode. There was no advancement of the overall plot. It was completely pointless crap. If it would have been a movie, I would have asked for my money back. Now I just want 47 minutes of my life back. Actually I do see the logic of it now, to pump out more crap and keep milking the show for as long as possible.
I can just see the writer’s meeting on this one:
Writer 1: Hey guys, we don’t really have enough material for an episode this week, what to we do?
Writer 2: No problem, we’ll just make up some lame jewel thief plot and kill off Nikki and Paulo.
Writer 3: Who?
Writer 2: You know those 2 filler characters….
Writer 3: Oh ya! Duh, I forgot!
Writer 1: OK, but I can’t think of any movies we can rip off…
Writer 3: I got it! How about we do a Memento type timeline rip off, with a The Vanishing paralyzed and buried alive twist?
Writer 1: Awesome dude, let’s do it! Who wants nachos?
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that’s gotta be the worst episode i’ve ever seen. i was excited about the commercials. lame ass attempt to show other views of things we’ve seen. the whole episode was just awful. shannon acting like a bitch. boone searching for a pen. 2 worthless characters buried alive. so what. are they gonna show up alive for the season finale? OH MY GOD! I CAN’T BELIEVE IT! NIKKI & PAULO ARE BACK FROM THE DEAD! I LOVE THIS SHOW! the only worthwhile moment was charlie confessing to sun…& on that note…am i trippin or does charlie’s face look different? his nose….or jaw….or teeth…i can’t quite place it. maybe they’ll solve that mystery next week.
I think they are conducting an experiment on the viewers. Remember sitting on the coach, your heart racing faster when trees swayed and dark fog chased people. Remember polar bears and horses. Remember hoping to catch a glimpse of anything, anything at all. Ahh…. Good times. Where have they gone.
Charlie looked like he had a clean shave. But what is up with Juliette? Holy face tightening! Man, she has the tell-tale squinty eyes and chiseled upper cheekbones of a recent facelift. I noticed it first last episode. Fake lips and now a facelift for a cosmetic surgery addicted actress. They’re going to have a hardtime spreading 90 days on an island in a span of four years with the growing paunch, wrinkles, facelifts and gray hairs of the cast.
Botox.
i love to love
in the jungle
If you guys hate the show so much why the hell do you watch it religiously? I can’t even watch it anymore
who hates the show? upon review i’ve discovered that you are the only one that dropped the h-bomb.
if anything…i hate the fact that i still watch the show. but i don’t even hate that.
i can only hope to someday soon attain your level of apathy for the show, such that I no longer care to watch.
My post from 2 days ago….
“Comment by David
2007-03-26 23:19:59
All this talk about death got me thinking, “Who do I want to see die next on LOST?”
So I came up with a list.
1. Nikki and Paulo
(together and, it would be great if they scream “Arnts” as they go)
2. Aaron
(eaten by a wild dog, so I can hear Claire say, “A Dingo Ate My Baby.”)
3. Claire
(but, not Charlie because, I used to really like his character, so for old time sake he can live for now)
3. Julie
(preferably with a deadpan look as Kate shoots her, I know it will be a tough acting feat but, I think she can pull it off)
4. Kate, Jack & Sawyer
(it’s for the best, I don’t think their contract allows them to act with anyone else anyway)
I’d like to keep Bad Ass Locke around but, if Retrado Locke show up again swap him for Claire. Also Jin and Sun because for once I’d like to see a minority make it close to the end of a major movie or tv show.
But the perfect ending would be every dies except Rose and Bernard who ambush Michael and Walt while coming back from being lost at sea all this time. They kill them and eat them and Rose and Bernard live happily ever after.
So there is my list, now give me yours.”
Looks like I called it. Even the part about Dr. Arntz.
I must be tapping into my inner Lost writer.
All I can say is Aaron look out.
“Arntz!”, yeah makes perfect sense now. I didn’t remember his last name, just that his first was Leslie. He’s also still the only good Redshirt the show has ever had. Not just cause he was the first, but because the way he checked out was the most impressive.
Burning, seething, horrible rage. Contempt. Puke. Period.
Yes, Sawyer’s “Who are you?” to Nikki was quite annoying. It wasn’t really funny the first time and to have to hear it repeated twice in this episode was very grating — although probably appropriate given how difficult the whole show was to watch. I guess the phony “Exposé” at the beginning was to set us up — they made Nikki’s acting so obviously dreadful at the beginning that one might actually think she was acting passably well later. It didn’t work. Kinda hard to buy a brainless valley girl as master conwoman.
And it was sad to see Billy Dee Williams in such a pointless role. I suppose on Lost it is always possible that he really is the key to all of the mysteries on the island (as himself no less). It is even more sad that the only thing people seem to associate him with is his Lando role in the Star Wars movies. Hasn’t anyone heard of “Brian’s Song” or “Mahogany”?
Ben telling Juliet that he would convince Jack to do the surgery by “doing what I always do, find what he is emotionally invested in and exploit it” or words to that effect was groan worthy as well. Did it ever occur to Ben to just ask Jack, instead of getting himself taken prisoner, getting Michael to murder, etc . . .? Everyone knows that a doctor will always treat a patient in need. Juliet even said that in the operating room. And the Others are supposed to be the good guys? It makes no sense.
I could subtly see the pained looks on the regular actors’ faces as they went through the motions for this episode. They must have been wondering themselves what the point of it was. “Exposé” is a fitting name to the episode, as it served to once and for all expose that the producers have no idea where anything is going. They brought back some of the things people once liked about the program for brief appearances — a clear sign that they understand the best is in the past. They are also exposing that they really aren’t committed to Lost anymore. Such a lazy effort demonstrates that they are busy planning for their next projects. Very sad.
“Brian’s Song” is a great movie.
let us not forget billy’s roles in Batman, & the timeless Colt 45 commercials…
All the acting seemed really bad. I think the Boone actor (this guy just needs to give up the dream) leant his acting coach (Verne Troyer perhaps) to the Sawyer and the Nikki actors. The girl that played Nikki was dreadful… hot as hell, but dreadful nonetheless. I always thought that the Sawyer actor was a bit weak in the skills department and this episode proved it. Shannon and Boone showed up, thankfully for Sawyer, and made his performance shine like O’Toole’s Lawrence in comparison.
BTW, I noticed on some fansite that there is a bunch of Lost worshippers up in arms because I guess the producers, in some podcast that aired recently, promised that there would be a “game changer” in this episode leading to the characters of Nikki and Paulo becoming “iconic”. The only game changer I noticed was Hurley’s slamming ping pong return on Sawyer. And Nikki and Paulo are now iconic for something — bad acting (although I hear Paulo was good as the Persian ruler Xerxes in “300″). Apparently, the producers also indicated that a major character would be revealed as gay in this episode (did they read my theory of “The Flame”?) The only clue I noticed was Shannon scolding Boone for “flirting” with Paulo. Maybe Boone and Paulo can get a gravesite together on the island.
Perhaps the game changer was that lame scene between Juliet and Ben… or perhaps the revelation (gasp) that Sun was actually kidnapped by the Hobbit and Sawyer. And BTW, nothing was good in or about “300″. I’m an ancient history buff, so I got suckered into going to see it. I can assure you that Paulo is quite consistent as an actor.
ha!
snob! apparently you don’t like xerxes as bi-curious?
Guilty as charged.
did anyone else hear the monster when paolo got paralyzed?
I thought it was the burrito I had eaten earlier…*burp*…
yes, it was gratiuitous and pointless.
I thought it was one of those plot point thingys.
At least the spiders didn’t make noises, growls, or some sort of lame squeek noise. That would have really been bad.
awful…and I only watched 1/2 of it! hate to think how much more my head would hurt had I seen all 60 (or 42) minutes!
the direction seems to be following the lead of the writing and acting…bad. one shot of sawyer was some hokey daytime soap ’slow-mo zoom in for a close up’ shot.
and…even if you want to think being burried alive is original, and horrifying, these are two characters we knew little, and cared about even less. my reaction at the end was…eh. if it’s a character you’ve become attached to you might scream “OH NO!” (if you like that character) or “GOOD RIDDANCE” if you hated them. but with these two…I have no real feelings one way or the other. I simply don’t (didn’t?) care.
Hurley’s eulogy actually made me laugh.
Maybe they should make it a sitcom.
right! but be careful what you wish for…
THIS FALL ON FOX: A LAID BACK SURFER-DUDE LOTTERY WINNER FINDS HAPPINESS IN…SMALL TOWN NEBRASKA???!
WHAAAA??!?!?! DID HE SAY NEBRASKA? WELL THAT’S THE FUNNIEST ‘FISH OUT OF WATER’ SET UP I’VE EVER HEARD!!!
maybe it’s just me, but I’m more annoyed by most of these characters than anything. hurley seems to come off like a 5 year old anymore. his “innocent” lug bit wears on my nerves.
didn’t he say something totally hokey to sawyer?
Well, I was really beginning to like the characters right after they murdered a lame TV show director/producer.
bud-dum-dum!
thankyousomuch- Jimmy in Southpark after another tanking joke.
You’re all right. This show has taken a wrong turn. It over promises and under delivers each week. Since the outrage of last seasons”recap” episodes they have gone onto filling the season with bad writing and stealing plotlines from other movies and tv shows. Next week is their last chance for me. If they don’t start with the main characters and the original plot (with the SMART Locke) it’s back to Spanish TV with the hot chicks. I don’t understand what there saying… but at least it looks good.
i agree . i dont know what they say either but they make more sense then lost does . where did these spiders come from and how come noboddy got bit before ? or why didnt leslie warn people also the timeline didntt seem to add up and if paulo was stashing the diamonds in the pearl how didnt ben and juliet know he was down there ? there was only one way in and anyone would know someone was down there with the bulkhead doors open. screw this soap im done .
LOL
in one of the recent audio intervews with the producers they actually admitted that people are gonna say lost jumped the shark… they actually already knew this episode would suck.
“I think some people are gonna say that lost has jumped the shark. you know ,people on the sites like…..um”
as for gay characters…hmm just check the next promo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_2_QlhKDYM&eurl=
Attack of the Redshirts! Hmmm… let’s drag out all the dead, secondary characters- even the idiot who blew himself up. This must have been the episode they filmed while all the “major” characters were on hiatus doing other projects. That happens a lot with large ensamble cast shows since nobody is getting paid all that much by Hollywood standards. I mean, when did the Jr High science teacher have asperations of being the next Darwin? I must have missed that in between all the parts where he was just an idiot wannabe scientist who blewed himself up real good. I don’t know which was worse: Nikki & Paulo’s acting, the lame Billy D cameo, or Shannon & Boone’s wigs in the airport scene. Plus, how did the Others (who at that time were monitering the survivors very closely) not notice somebody sneak into their hatch & mess with the shitter? Plus, what’s up with Paulo’s scatological obsession? He’s always looking for tp, he hides the gems in the toilet tank…wtf? God, my brain hurts… Just awful…
It’s evident from everyone’s posts that you guys loved this episode, too! Awright! Glad to hear it.
Of course, because I am a pathetic human being, I thoroughly enjoyed this episode despite a number of shortcomings. Come on, guys! Boone was back in a shitty wig! Awesome. Shannon was as bitchy as ever! Love it. In case anyone’s curious what the big mythological reveal was, I believe it stemmed from the fact that the “monster” summoned all those evil paralyzing spiders to go attack Nikki, implying that the monster only goes after really nasty motherfuckers who poison people and steal their diamonds and do other malicious things.
Some of the stuff was contrived. I’ll admit that. Still dug it, though.
Not really sure how this is a Memento-style timeline, Tyler. Memento had a reverse-chronological timeline, starting with the most recent events — the episode used a normal timeline, based on the recency of events. And dude, I hate to criticize your blogs, because they usually have some valuable nuggets of insight within them, but you’ve said that the producers are milking the show, like, three times already. And yes, ABC is milking the show. Networks milk all shows. That’s what networks do. That’s why the Simpsons has been on for 6,238,232,238,232 years.
Also, guys, I have it on fairly good authority that (SPOILER!!!) Nikki survives, meaning the show didn’t just introduce two characters to kill them off.
Skep, you should have watched the last half. The entire buried-alive scene was actually pretty fucked up.
Grasping at straws my friend! Even YOU couldn’t have like this episode, I just can’t fathom it. Release your anger JT, turn to the dark side- you know you want to…
Heh. Well, Nico, I thought it was unique — I’m the kind of dude who tries to see something positive in *everything*, which is possibly why I didn’t start loathing this show during its glut of sub-par episodes. It was a cool attempt to keep things fresh, but I really think Damon and Carlton and all the powers that be REALLY played up Nikki and Paolo’s importance, which hurt things in the long run. I do also think they should have thrown in some more jaw-dropping answers to our questions — they really didn’t answer much of anything last night.
If there hasn’t been any publicity surrounding this episode, I think the reaction would have been a little more positive.
And come on, all straight males on this board have got to admit that Nikki is super hot. It makes me glad that my fiance does not check these boards, because that last statement would not make her happy.
She’s not bad looking, has a nice shape for sure. Kind of bad skin if you looked close though. It’s too bad your fiancee gets mad about these things. Mine is of the attitude that if I stop looking at attractive women its obvious my nuts have dropped off & then I’m no good to her either…
I really can’t go with the characterization of unique for the ep. My wife, who is a TOTAL LOST sellout finally got fed up last night a spoke her first bad words about the show. Why?
Because it was complete cheating on the part of the writers. How can a show, 3 seasons in, create an episode that is just out of chronological order just so they can throw in ties to previous plot threads, etc. And I’m not buying “it was flashbacks” so it’s legal.
Thinking of this type opens the door to go back and create episodes that happened in the few weeks on the island so that all sorts of holes in the plot up until now could be filled in or new threads begun…well, that’s assuming the writers were clever enough to think of ways to fill in the holes. If they could though, THAT would be cheating.
I’m now to the point of total contempt, as I said in my other comments below.
i dont even want answers anymore just some good action. remember when boone died , now that was a good epi .I didnt care about who was on the island just wanted action and there was plenty of it. now killer spiders make there debut appearence. next epi is nikki cursing people for paulos death and sifting through the sand for diamonds . or maybee both come from the grve and they’re zombies!eh , kate could get shot in face and i think i would care not …unless that sparked a war between them and its full blown war between losties and others .that would be good tv ! yeah locke could sink a hatchet into ben and juliets heads then scalp and peel off there faces and wear them .(like hannibal lectar) that would bring me back how bout yoiu
Can’t lie- I’d watch that with bells on!!
Good point about the Simpsons, I haven’t watched in like, six years.
actually…I watched the 2nd half (totally forgot it was on!). my point, I think, is still valid. they introduce these characters, then throw them into situations where we’re expected to care whether they die or don’t die or half die or are burried alive or fist each other while they’re half dead…doesn’t matter, I simply don’t care about these two characters.
I also think the ‘con artist’ bit is wearing thin. how many are there now? is this the island of the misfit grifters?
as for the timeline…not that clever. and while not a carbon copy of memento, it was a stunt none the less.
you’re not pathetic, just hopeful…or easily pleased. if you watch the show for what it’s become (pure popcorn fluff), it’s probably enjoyable.
so like…
they make the mistake of introducing 2 new characters…
realize it was a mistake…
realize that they should have them disappear the same way they appeared…
but to avoid having to deal with the audience wondering where these 2 characters went they give us this crap so that
A)they can show that these 2 characters were “there” for the 1st 2 seasons &
B)they can erase their mistake in front of all of us so we won’t ask where they went.
i think they intentionally made this episode a piece of garbage so that we will unconsciously group nikki, paulo, & garbage together. that way when they kill the charcters they poorly created we won’t be upset. we’ll almost be glad that they took out the garbage.
whatever…
why the hell wouldn’t the 2 of them mention finding the other plane & the hatch? what’s that smell? sniff, sniff…garbage.
You are right, memento was the other way around. In my half drunken lost rage last night I got it backwards. I just meant the ridiculous 85 days ago, 27 days ago…. progression. And I have mentioned the fact they are milking it too much, beccause, well, they are milking it too much!!!
In the spirit of trying to find something positive, the slow mo scene of nikki walking in her bikini top towards the professor was pretty sweet. Oh wait, that was only slow-mo on my tivo several times, not the actual show.
I really do hope nikki is still alive. I think a great idea for a future episode would be where nikki and kate have a tree climbing contest straddling a palm tree coated in dharma brand baby oil.
“I really do hope nikki is still alive. I think a great idea for a future episode would be where nikki and kate have a tree climbing contest straddling a palm tree coated in dharma brand baby oil.”
Best Lost episode idea ever.
Can we get Sun & Alex involved in this as long as we’re dreaming?
dont worry nikkii is alive ! women dont die till sawyers done with’em.thats sawyer =2 jack=0 ,no wonder jack switched sides all the stress and not tit of gradatude
Ummm…besides your blind devotion to a crappy show, I’ve found another piece of evidence to demonstrate your lack of intelligence…the spiders…summoned by the monster?…lol…perhaps you were blanketed in your own smugness- making it impossible for you to hear- when JR Science Wizard told Nikki about the powerful pheromones of the Medusa spider…seems to me, when she released the spider, that’s what attracted the swarm…but hey…seeing as how I’ve been complaining about this show for two years, I must be one of those “idiots with no attention span” that defenders of this show label…so don’t take anything I say seriously
this is how i read it…
“I’ve found another piece of evidence to demonstrate your lack of intelligence”
(congradulations!…new evidence. where did you find it? please share this evidence with us & demonstrate our lack of intelligence)
“…the spiders…summoned by the monster?…lol…”
(lol indeed my friend. i must say, that is truly hilarious.)
“perhaps you were blanketed in your own smugness- making it impossible for you to hear”
(it is a very thick blanket…& i do always find it extremely difficult to hear anything when i have my smugness blanket pulled up over my ears…when, oh when will i ever learn?)
“- when JR Science Wizard told Nikki about the powerful pheromones of the Medusa spider…seems to me, when she released the spider, that’s what attracted the swarm”
(seems to me…- when My IQ is 145 and amazingly I think Lost sucks posted on this page…time stood still…)
Who the fuck is this jerkoff?
Anyway. It would take me roughly forty seconds to tear this imbecilic post to shreds, line by line, but I’ll just leave it at this: you are a complete fucktard who clearly didn’t understand that my original post — and ALL of my initial posts after a Lost episode first airs — was satirical. I always praise every episode while ignoring any negative aspects of it, because that’s my schtick on this site, which is in contrast to all of the blatantly negative commentary that erupts whenever an episode airs. Pretty much all non-assholes (read: everybody on this site except for you) seem to understand that I’m NOT BEING COMPLETELY SERIOUS WHEN I BLINDLY PRAISE AN EPISODE.
And no, I’m not taking jack shit you say seriously, because yours is the only post that’s blanketed in smugness. You insult my intelligence because of a trivial plot point on a television show? Are you eleven years old?
Regarding your blather about the pheromones, that means absolutely dick to me. I disagree with you on it, mainly because you’re a pompous asshole.
Have a nice day!
the anger…my my…
Firstly, let me say this…I was unaware of your “shtick” and as an extension your role on this site. So, in that sense I made a needless post.
However, let also say this…my man, you need to relax…in a serious way…I was almost able to feel your blood boil and see your eyes and veins bulge as you furiously typed your angry response.
As you said, it’s only a tv show. Get some perspective.
P.S.
While it is true that I may be a pompous asshole, it’s so much better than being a sopping douche.
Please, numbnuts. I’m not pissed, but I clearly have enough writing talent to make it appear that way to cocksuckers like you. Feel free to continue writing replies to me, and I’ll continue to pretty much call you all sorts of names, as it seems clear to me that all you’re trying to do is start some kind of juvenile flamewar.
Luckily for me, all you’re doing is making yourself look like a slavering retard. Did you think the entire site would shower you with LOLs and ROFLs at your Shakespearean prose?
I await your next reply. Hopefully, it will be rife with cliches, such as “it’s only a show!” and “stop getting so angry!” Good luck!
I don’t get it… is this guy trying to be funny? Or is he being critical of the website? I didn’t really see anything in the post to make anybody upset even if it was a bit sarcastic.
He was targeting me, apparently because I’m the easiest to target on this site. He also implies I’m a blind devotee of the show, when my posts on the site suggest otherwise.
I think he’s also quite fond of the penis.
quite fond indeed.
the show has jumped the ”whatever is larger than a whale’
Humped the shark dude… humped the shark.
I have to say, I found this episode entertaining, but in a completely frivilous unimportant way. I was bored, so I decided to watch.
Now, that is not to say that the episode didn’t suck. It was a complete smack in the face to loyal watchers who want, you know, PLOT to progress. It was a brazen filler episode.
And the worst part about it was when they meagerly, pathetically tried to tie it into the regular plot with cameos by Ben and Juliet— WAIT, SO THEY GO ACROSS THE ISLAND TO THE FUCKIN TV ROOM TO HATCH THEIR VILE PLANS? AND BASICALLY SPY ON THE CASTAWAYS WITH THEIR BLACK AND WHITE, **SOUNDLESS** ZENITH TV, CIRCA 1952???????????????????????????????????????????????
I mean, that just totally destroyed the mysteriousness for me. Ben “finds out what people are emotionally attached to and exploits it????” No. He knew what Jack’s wife looked like, he has ESP or something, don’t tell me he just watches Castaway TV after the “Honeymooners” is over in the Pearl station.
Yes, once again they reinforce just how utterly pedestrian the Others have become.
pedestrian is the perfect word. They were magical for seasons one and two, until they couldn’t figure out where the magic came from– so now they’re just, you know, people, with close-circuit tv and leaves on their feet.
this show sucks so bad, it makes me wanna fuckin smack the living shit out of the writers. fuckin hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry guys, had to get that of my chest after wasting another hour of my life.
Wow. You sound pissed!
can i get a big fat word
Contrived. That’s my one word summary of the ep. Also, I have to agree that I’ve reached the point of contempt for the show.
1. You are not allowed to create shows that attempt to go back and tell things that happened at the beginning of the series because you didn’t have the foresight to include those things in the plot the first time you were going through in chronological order. Lame.
2. Ben might as well have preceded his comments to Juliette with: “I am now going to explicitly spell out my character for all of the people who watch this show and don’t have enough gray matter to catch on by now: I manipulate people by…”
3. “Why don’t you climb up in that plane paulo?”…”No, it might fall and kill me”. “Oh, what’s this hatch?…In the future, I’m going to have to pretend like I’ve never been here if I see it again.” Every bit of that whole “these characters have been an integral part of the storyline and existence of the castaways the whole time, you just never recognized them until now” made me want to throw something through my TV.
4. First five minutes of the show (Expose)…possibly the lamest thing I’ve ever seen. And here’s an original character motivation for this show: They’re con artists. Yeah, thanks…covered that with Sawyer, Locke’s dad, Kate. Got any original ideas?
5. And if that chick survives four feet of dirt on top of her I might just lose it. Anyone ever gone to the beach and even just been buried up their neck for funsies? “Just as the dirt was being shoveled onto her, she brought her hands up to her face to create an air pocket – which hurley and sawyer didn’t notice that the dead body had moved. Then, as she regained sensation, she started wiggling her toes, then her legs, until eventually she was loose enough to break through to the surface”.
On the bright side, my wife, who has never uttered a bad word about the show until now finally said last night how stupid it was. So, if she decides to stop watching, I may be able to finally get away from this train wreck.
My finacee has finally gotten fed up too. I’m pretty sure I’ll have to suffer through the rest of this season, as the show limps towards summer. However, next year I might become another BigJim, just popping up occasionally to shout: “Lost sucks!” & then vanishing back into the shadows.
“Ben might as well have preceded his comments to Juliette with: “I am now going to explicitly spell out my character for all of the people who watch this show and don’t have enough gray matter to catch on by now: I manipulate people by…” ”
ha! excellent. they seem to do this more frequently than I remember. overt explanations for stupid crap.
Yes, I keep waiting for Basil Exposition to walk out from behind a case of Dharma (TM) brand mayonaise…
Basil: Austin, the cold war’s over.
Austin: Well finally those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes. Eh comrades? eh?
Basil: Austin… WE won.
Austin: OH SMASHING. YAY CAPITALISM.
“And if that chick survives four feet of dirt on top of her I might just lose it. Anyone ever gone to the beach and even just been buried up their neck for funsies? ”
no way…if either of them survive, i call bull shit. a cubic foot of sand probably weighs…50lbs? (I’m basing that on a cubic foot of H2O weighing 65lbs or so)
they had her a few feet in the ground, and piled the sand on above ground level. must be several hundred pounds (or more) of sand each of them. no way they don’t suffocate. no way they could claw their way out.
this is a pre-emptive BULL SHIT call.
Also forgot to mention: after hearing the talk on the previous episode comments about Evangeline Lilly on Livelinks, I managed to do a google search and find this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDYQVKPkWQk
Pretty funny.
And by the way, no one has probably noticed but it appears as of late, the Lost worshippers have been posting in on the comments of the 10 reasons lost sucks article with the usual “if you hate the show why do you watch it ” and “you suck tyler” crap. Apparently only JT is willing to bring his completely indefensible arguments into the episode threads (kidding). So, once any of you get tired of immasculating JT with your superior arguments of why lost sucks (kidding again, relax), you can head over there and take on some new folks.
Aloha
Okay, let me start off by saying that season 3 of Lost has gone nowhere and it seems that the staff of the show are using filler. Lost’s first two seasons have probably been the better of the group.
However, no ones requiring you to watch this show. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. Don’t argue about how awfully stupid one episode is and how you want your life back or how you gotten 45 minutes taken away from you. I mean, I don’t like Heroes or 24 or all the 20 billion crime dramas thrown on the air. I just choose not to watch them, not establish a website forum and argue how I loyally watch the show every week and then proceed extract every flaw or stupid scenario from the show. Every show has flaws, so I don’t see the point in trying to shoot this show down. If you hate the show like you guys say you do, don’t watch it. Because now people begin to believe that you like the show because in some ways you come back to watch it. Every viewer has something they want to change about a show, your opinions shown are just a little more harsh. Right now Lost has a high viewer count because I guess everyone who hates it still prefers to revserve their Wednesday nights to watch it.
Now isn’t that strange??
Sweet Jeebus, not another one of these guys… Maybe you should read the FAQ, or, oh- I don’t know- a couple of the posts before you go with the: “…if you hate it so much why do you watch it?” argument. Old hat guy, very, very old hat…
then am i right?
because if you have no real rebuttal then i guess its somewhat true.
because all i see here is a groan. not a reply.
Look, dude, I don’t disagree with the overall thrust of your message — SOME (not all, by any stretch of the imagination) posters just bash the show because that’s more or less what this site is designed for, while ignoring any and all positive aspects of an episode. And that shit really is counterproductive. People know I hate it.
But if you read some of these comments carefully, you’ll notice several people on this site were definitely big fans of the show at one point (and I think, though no one will admit it, that a few people still ARE fans of the show). Many people here have cogent points about why they think the show is going downhill. I might disagree with some of them, but at least they’re honest sentiments.
My advice? Try to change everyone’s collective minds. Point out positive aspects of the show. That’s what I do. And sometimes it actually works!
I didn’t see fit to reply because it’s already been discussed about a thousand times, but here it is in a nutshell: Most of us have at some point been fans of the show. Now, since they have turned the show into cliched, rambling, poo-poo; we have come here to share our anger & occasionally wallow in our sorrow for what once was. Using the internet to bitch about things one has no control over wasn’t exactly invented with this site, but I think we’re pretty good at it all the same. And to use your own argument- if you’re so offended by this site, why bother to post on it?
yes! go f**k yourself Willi t fuckhead !this site is for us (the lost haters )we love the show (what it used to be )and love to hate it even more .Here we can voice our frustrations and opinions unhindered.why dont you go back to abc or whereever you people praise every similarity inthe show . oh,my the spiders! the spiders ! oh ben and juli walk right through an open hatch door and walk right passed paulo . get know we know everyone on the island is dumb , greedy ,oh yeah and a con
At least he stopped short of the “you guys are big doo-doo heads who need to get a life” statements. While that may be true that I need to get a life, I definitely do not need to be reminded of that fact.
And yes…PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read the FAQ. It’s not hard. Just move your mouse to the left and click on the underlined, blue “FAQ”.
what’s strange is that you feel compelled to make this point as if it’s original.
hey…WilliamT…
shh…
do you want to be put on time out? i’ll have you sitting in the corner of this page for 1 hour wearing the http://www.whylostsucks.com dunce hat. behave. keep your hands to yourself & hush up.
no you may not use the restroom.
I am proud to saw I am a reformed Lost addict. I haven’t watched the last 3 episodes. I do come on this site however, to see what I (didn’t) miss. Even my friend who defends this show to no end said last night was ‘pointless’. While it was fun for a little while to watch the show just to see how bad it could get it became TOO painful. I thank South Park for being on at the same time. If Lost was still on at 9 I would probably still watch it, simply because I’m a loser with no social life who has nothing better to do.
Hmmm, I guess my post has become as pointless as this show.
can i get a word!
Word!
If anyone posted this gripe I missed it:
Doesn’t it seem odd that, if the Island was filled with poisonous spiders that cause death-like paralysis, that only the science teacher and the bimbo would know about it? These castaways have been traipsing back and forth through the woods all day, every day for three months and no one has ever gotten bit? And before his untimely demise, wouldn’t Mr. Blown-Up Science Teacher have shared this important info with Dr. Jack, so that everyone could be forewarned? And with all the violence and mayhem among our heroes, no one tried this trick before? You could drive a semi through this huge plot hole.
While we’re at it, didn’t Hurley say that he was with the Others two weeks before? How is it then that the trip to the Pearl Station (from Season 2) was only 9 days previous? If so, I think the timeline is also a bit “lost.”
Great point about the spiders! All the survivors would be covered in bug bites in reality. After a walk through the jungle their eyes would practically be swollen shut. I guess all the mosquitoes & spiders are controlled by the Others or something…
My wife also noted that poison spider bites are usually big red swollen lumps that are hard to miss. If Paulo has one on his neck and Nikki on her leg, it wouldn’t take a neuro-surgeon to connect the dots, even a con man and a lottery-winning burger flipper could have doped it out. Especially before burying someone alive! Yeesh!
True, there is usually a pair of raised, swollen, red bumps with distinguishable holes at the center resulting from any type of spider bite (even from spiders much smaller than those). Don’t forget though- these are special, supernatural Dharma (TM) brand spiders.
also…
it seems the only thing that motivates and unifies this group is a good grave diggin’!!!
they really hustle when it comes to getting bodies in the ground.
wouldn’t Mr. Blown-Up Science Teacher have shared this important info with Dr. Jack, so that everyone could be forewarned
uh…DUH! it’s already been established that these castaways aren’t terribly concerned with survival or rescue or sharing information that might help everyone achieve both those goals!
they do have time to do hair. not hair like sawyer’s hair, ‘hair’ like the musical. I heard rose is playing the charlotte ray part. should be quite excellent.
Synopsis of this episode.
Nikki: PAUL-O. PAUL-O. Let me say that name a few more times so I can get how to pronounce it. Poooow-lo!
Paulo: Yes Nekki? Nekki? Your name is Nekki, and mine is POW-low.
Nikki: We are two characters named Nikki and Paulo. And we have had sex.
Paulo: Even when we killed that old man for his diamonds. The old man you were screwing, while we were screwing.
Nikki: Where are those diamonds?
Paulo: In our bag, under the seat with dead bodies in it, which fell off the plane into that lake where we get our fresh water.
Nikki: EWWW. We’re drinking that?
Paulo: yup
Nikki: Shouldn’t we be dead from fecal coliform by now, I mean we’ve been drinking that water for 80 days and never in any scene is it boiled.
Paulo: Yes, I guess. I don’t do science.
Nikki: Anyway, where are the diamonds!
Paulo: I got them out of the water and hid them in that Pearl thing. And then– AHHHH!!!
Nikki: I AM TOSSING TOXIC SPIDERS AT YOU. ALA-KAZAM!!
Paulo: AHHHHHHH. BUT I. LOVE. YOU.
Nikki: AHHH! One Bit me too. Must run. through. jungle. like. each. ep-isode.
Paulo: Bury me alive— next to libby.
Nikki: Who’s Libby? Who the fuck are you?
heh heh…’we are two characters named nikki and paulo’.
that “bonk” you heard was the writers clumsily hitting you over the head with stupid plot points.
nikki: razzle dazzle!
razzle dazzle! hahahaha this show is good for a laugh aint it
An Astonishing work of staggering shiate is how I would describe last night’s episode. Holy toledo, was it ever baaad. Evil and JT, I feel betrayed. You mean you actually enjoyed some aspects of that rancid crap they served up last night?! It was like watching an amputation. Jesus! I mean I could not believe it. Nothing and I mean nothing can redeem this show for me now. I am stunned. The monumental disregard they have shown viewers, let alone fans just leaves me speechless. Ok. well… not quite. This wasn’t merely just a bad episode of Lost. This was television at its worst. Essentially reinventing the past history of characters and conveniently manufacturing new characters in order to inserts those non-entities into the plot?! For pete’s sake, why?! WTF?!!! Per Tommy6168’s comment above and my favorite shitty moment in last night’s episode: “Ben telling Juliet that he would convince Jack to do the surgery by “doing what I always do, find what he is emotionally invested in and exploit it” or words to that effect was groan worthy as well”. I couldn’t believe those words came out of his mouth! Dialogue has sometimes been contrived and false-sounding on the show but this was a new low. It’s as if this episode was written by a retarded monkey who once wrote for Days of Our Lives. I couldn’t believe there were worst actors than Claire until Nikki and Paulo showed up. I mean, that thing at the start where Nikki is a guest star on a hit TV show was just an avant-goût of just how bad the episode was going to get. How many times are they going to use the plot variation of seduction for money. Sawyer, John’s dad, and now Nikki. Enough already. The insults to my intelligence are too numerous to list here but I found the spider plot particularly galling. Those insect specimens gathered by the crazed science teacher would not have survived for weeks in glass jars especially given that no one was there to care for them. There was recently a story in the NewYorker about an arachnologis and as suggested by someone above, there would have been redness/swelling where they were bitten and the symptoms would not have developped in quite that manner. Urghh. What about this whole business of the Hobbit and Sawyer kidnapping Sun. Huh?! Just a messy bit of plotline that they needed to clean up, I guess… The fact that they had Sawyer state once too many times that he did not know who Paulo and Nikki were, indicates to me that the writers know exactly what they are doing but have no regard for the audience. They have badly miscalculated the robustness of the ratings and the patience of the fans and it will be a sweet moment when it blows up in their face.
And although I was the first to indicate how tickled I would be by Paulo and Nikki’s violent death, I found their being buried alive singularly distasteful as a method of dispatching them. On top of being incredibly cliché, there is just something so E.A. Poe and Twightlight Zone-ish about being burried alive. BTW, I don’t think those two assholes are dead. I think that the dog will dig them up just in the nick of time notwithstanding the fact that they should have suffocated. But nevermind. They have lowered the bar of plausibility to such an extent that anything can happen on this show at this point. Well, that was the episode that clinched it for me. Lost sucks fundamentally and it will forever suck. Tune in next week to see just how low these Lost writers will go!
Testify Brother Turkey- Amen!!!
I don’t mean to betray. It was shite.
But I enjoyed it because, i dunno, i just don’t care anymore and I was in a completely brainless mood, and the episode didn’t take itself so seriously?? I dunno.
Part of my enjoyment might be that my girlfriend was watching it with me and she was getting an education on the day they crashed and was like “wait, so they just crashed and are all alive and in neat clothes?” and “that Nikki girl seems awfully revealingly dressed for someone who just crashed”
Half the time I was making fun of it, and half the time i was reflecting on flashbacks of previous shows saying “OH YEAH, I REMEMBER WHEN THAT DUDE FLEW INTO THE AIRPLANE ENGINE” except this time I was saying “wait, how did the engine, broken in pieces on the ground, cut off from its fuel supply, suddenly gain the force to SUCK A MAN FROM THE GROUND INTO IT??
Yes it was shite. But there was this weird fascination of seeing flashbacks of previous episodes, as if the last 2 years of crap never happened.
BTW, Staggeringly Putrid Turkey, that was the funniest shit I have read. Especially the part about Ben explicitly stating his motivation. I mean, how desperate could these “Lost” writers get? They just officially made the “Other’s” theme completely ridiculous– I mean how unnatural can dialogue get? Maybe they will start reading out their cues.
Ben: I am supposed to walk across this dock until this piece of tape here. See here I am. Now, I will stand in front of the hooded captives and cackle like an Evil Mr. Rogers.
Juliet: I used cold, purtianical prudishness to seduce stupid surgeons.
Mr. Friendly: I like to shoot stuff and bark orders.
Alex: I will use my nubile good looks to attract old men to the show!
Hobbit: I will use my sheepish smile and guitar playing skills to get into the Girl Aussie’s Digerie-Doo.
You know that scene in the movie “Parenting” where Steve Martin feels like he is on a roller coaster while his little 4 year old son trashes the school play because he thinks his sister is being hurt? And Steve Martin feels the roller coaster and doesn’t care and starts laughing? — That’s how I feel about that last episode.
It was complete crap, and I kept watching. I just didn’t care. It was like watching all those “Guiding Light” episodes with my gay roomate. I watched for the ass, but then the plot started getting so ridiculous and stupid, I wanted to see what crap the writers would come up with next. “Lost” has achieved that level for me now.
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
LOL. You too funny, dawg — and I quote: “Ben: I am supposed to walk across this dock until this piece of tape here. See here I am. Now, I will stand in front of the hooded captives and cackle like an Evil Mr. Rogers.” That is EXACTLY what Juliet and Ben sounded like. It’s unfortunate because it has undermined what little “mystique” still surrounds the Others not to mention that Paulo eaves-dropping from the crapper somewhat eviscerated the emotional impact of that scene. I half expected Juliet to turn to Ben and ask: “do you smell something”. There were a couple of ridiculously hilarious bits, though, like Paulo coming out of the crapper (again) just before Nikki asks about the TV screens which no one had noticed apparently. He comes out of the crapper looking like he’d made a big stinky and says “well the toilet works”. I cried. But, by and large, I guess I’m still at the point where I feel so insulted by the epic stupidity of the plot and dialogue that I can find little humour in most of it. Watching this show has now become a bizarre masochistic ritual for me.
Hah. Don’t fret, Turkey. I didn’t love the episode — far from it, because nothing really happened, no new information was imparted, and I really could give a hot fuck about the extremely hot Nikki and the terribly acted Paolo. But the buried-alive portion of the episode…that was some dark, visceral, creepy shit right there. I guess the fact that I didn’t totally loathe the episode probably shows that I try to go into these episodes looking for something positive. It’s just my mindset.
For instance, take the spider portion of the plot that you weren’t particularly fond of. Yeah, I can see your point — spiders probably wouldn’t survive in those glass jars, and there should have been some infection and swelling. But I don’t think about that kind of stuff when I’m watching Lost — I just go along for the ride, thinking that it’s just a television show. It’s complete fiction, you know? Clearly there’s going to be shit that doesn’t add up, because that happens in *all* shows: it’s just more noticeable with Lost, because the show is constantly under everyone’s collective microscope.
I mean, I see what you’re saying. I just watch the show for what it is — entertainment. My mind doesn’t focus on the other stuff, which might be why I don’t have all of this vitriol toward the show.
“Alex: I will use my nubile good looks to attract old men to the show!”
Oh crap, you got me- but does 35 count as old?
I’m 31. And yes, we are dirty dirty old men.
*sigh* Oh well, being that my financee is ten years my junior I guess I already knew that about myself…
All through the episode I kept thinking the spiders are like this giant metaphor for the show. You watch too much of it and you enter a paralytic state caused by lack of plot and entertainment. Later when you are discovered by friends and family you get buried alive. At least at this point you won’t be able to see any more episodes of Lost, unless of course you end up in hell.
Also anyone know how the spider survived in that jar? I mean since Leslie died who the hell was feeding all his collected specimens. He died at end of season 1, do you expect us to believe the jewel thieves looked after them?
Yet another week of utter garbage and another week asking why the hell I watch this show, this show should come with warnings.
Caution plot may appear closer than it actually is.
Do not drive or operate heavy machinery after watching an episode of Lost.
This show may cause depression if symptoms persists longer than 24 hours please seek medical help.
How indeed did any of the insects survive in those glass jars for weeks (see my post above where I ask that very question)? Even without the heat, it defies logic. Laughable.
Last night’s episode was so bad it put my wife and I in a foul mood. We actually had a big fight over something trivial afterward.
“LOST nights” used to be an exciting opportunity for us to spend an hour during the middle of the week and enjoy something together. Now it is the catalyst for much rage.
I think that speaks volumes about the horse manure this show has become.
LOST sucks…
Big ones.
I feel your pain RobbyLove but I can’t believe that you guys are still clinging to the forlone hope that this thing is somehow going to turn around. Notwithstanding the last half decent episodes last week and the week before, Nikki and Paulo’s burial is an apt metaphore for how I feel about this show.
Did Ben and Juliette go to that hatch to dial in a static monitor that they knew with all their mystical TV precognition abilities would be displaying images of Jack? They stealthily trudged across the island, avoiding detection, to a place that Juliette dislikes, so as to catch a 5 second glimpse of Jack and to spell out their collaboration and sinister machinations to the audience… and Paulo (who is trapped into keeping this explosive piece of intel to himself)? Nice work.
The Russian doll. What symbolism. Hmm… did that portend the diamonds ability to reveal someone to their hollowed core? Deep!
Oh yes, and the dog removing the death shroud, because this glorious animal in its infinite wisdom knew they were alive. And then so did I, and had to worry that the horrible Nikki actress could possibly make it alive through this episode. Nice!
And Billy Dee watching over the monitors in his office is revealed to be the master villain after all. Some more not-so-subtle foreshadowing. I can already picture Ben tearing away his mask to reveal himself as Dr. Hanzo. Ain’t that a “cold-cock”!
What is the purpose of bringing back the Boone-doggle? To show the characters’ 6 degrees of seperation, a concept that JJ seems to be really into? I had to endure the Boone-doggle stumbling through his 3 lines so as to make sure that I grasp the interconnectedness concept? Thanks!
That scene with Ben and Juliette was particularly insulting. One of the writers probably has a fixation with monitors. I suspect he or she must have been a security guard before rising to such creative heights. But then again these types of contrivences and plot devices are so pervasive on the show. Last night’s episode was a veritable catalogue of tired clichés. I was exhausted by the end of it.
Well I’m still just trying to figure out how they know he’s 1. a surgeon, 2. named Jack Sheppard and 3. what he looks like, as there has never been sound on their Zenith 1952 tvs that are close circuit with FIXED cameras. Unless Jack spends an aweful lot of time in front of the camera and writing “Doctor Jack Sheppard, Spinal Surgeon” on paper in view of the camera over, and over, and over…. I don’t see how they would have any idea who he is– unless the Other’s have ESP.
But they don’t have ESP. Just leaves on their feet and closed circuit tv.
Well, that would seem to indicate that the Others knew they were coming & already had info about them. Of course, that would make too much sense- so I’m sure it has something to do with 4 toed giant polar bear worshipers…
my guess…they saw the plane crash…hopped on a sub…went to the mainland…got all the info on the plane that “disappeared?” over the pacific…oceanic 815…got a lit of the passengers…& spent a couple of hours on google before returning to their village on the sub…mmm…sub…subway…foot long club on italian herb & cheese bread with provolone & shredded cheese…toast it please…lettuce, tomoato, onion, lots of pepperocinis & jalepenos…some mustard…& some sweet onion sauce…salt, pepper, oil, & vinegar & we’ll be good. yes…i’ll get the combo…with some of those delicious jalepeno chips & a medium dr. pepper…ahh…
the game changer has not been revealed. im guessing its the 100-story skeleton hand crushed underneith a huge boulder than sun and jin find.
so i hear this will last 4 seasons long, and if it lasts five the two masterminds behind the masterpiece will leave
hmmm…’mastermind’ seems a bit strong.
but haven’t they left? not a bad way to make a career: facilitate the initiation of a show/movie then bail.
I agree with Tommy6168’s comment about the “pained expressions on the regular actors’ faces as they went through the motions for this episode. They must have been wondering themselves what the point of it was.” I caught that too. Ben looked downright uncomfortable uttering his lines and Hurley looked like he was going to puke when he was giving the eulogy. The actors have no more control over the dialogue and the fate of their own characters than the audience does. Oh Anna Lucie and Echo, how I still grieve for you! … Triffling detail perhaps, but I found Jack’s statement about “not getting anywhere with every man for himself” particularly grating. Would it have killed the writers to have him say “person” in recognition of the fact that there are also women on the island?
I’m reluctant to delve into any discussion which is even remotely political, however…
The US, rather refreshingly, hasn’t been totally emasculated by the PC knife. At least that’s the way I see it from my perspective. I suppose you’re not a ‘24′, ‘Sopranos,’ or ‘Southpark’ fan. These shows utter contempt and disregard for rampant PC BS make them a huge draw for a large fan base.
Bravo may offer a few programs up your alley, no double-entendre suggested.
And yes, the actors all looked liked they had monday morning hangovers, probably brought on after a weekend of script rehersals.
Coudn’t agree more Laurent! When we start arguing about whether the terms “man” or “mankind” are gender biased; there’s a term for that too: it’s called “semantics”.
Laurent, I was not aware of having made a “political” statement. I was merely expressing my annoyance at what I perceived as a pretty glaring oversight. Despite your supposed reluctance to engage in political discussion, your response was pretty politically tinged and unnecessarily hostile. It’s interesting and rather telling that you found my remark political, though, and that you equate respect and sensitivity towards women (you know, those other people who inhabit planet earth) with emasculation. As far as I am concerned, respect and sensitivity towards women is what defines a true man. Try it sometime, you might get laid by a willing participant for a change. I will not respond to your sophomoric assumptions about what I watch on TV although it’s very sad that watching “South Park”, “24″ and the “Sopranos” is what apparently defines you as a man. Nico, I feel like I got kicked in the gut. Didn’t figure you as a hater, man. Very disappointed and surprised by the turn of this exchange and quite frankly will not be posting here anymore. I’m a lover not a fighter. Peace out y’all.
Not that I disagree with your bit about respect and sensitivity, but seriously, are you really upset or just joking? I can’t tell. But Turkey, come on. Two people said something you didn’t like. I happen to think “every man for himself” is a trifling detail. Jack was a guy, so he said “every man.” If Kate had been speaking, it’s likely she would have said “every woman.” That’s just the way our genders are with personal pronouns and things like that.
In any event, isn’t it kind of refreshing that people disagree with what you have to say? I think this board would be a little bit boring if everyone just mindlessly agreed with what everyone else wrote.
I take your point about sharing ideas and accepting everybody’s point of view but L’s tone was pointedly hostile. I might be a blog virgin but I really don’t think there is any need for that and it just results in escalation and engaging in endless rounds of nastiness and whining (like I’m doing now). I do concede that my jab at poor Nico was somewhat over the top. Nico is a kewl dude and deserved a more mature response like “language is how we communicate respect or contempt for others. I just don’t buy the argument that it does not matter how we say things”. Yes, I can and have accepted other people’s opinions on this blog even when I did not agree with them. However, I will not tolerate insults and unprovoked hostility in an environment where I come in peace to discuss futile and triffling issues.
Don’t over react my friend, I think you took my statement a bit too seriously. I was only trying to say that discussions of the sort you & Laurent were engaging in never end well- looks like I was right eh? I promise you I’ve never referred to a woman as a “bitch” unless I was doing my Stone Cold Morning Pimp impression for my financee (don’t ask…) or literally calling them a bitch because it’s better than the “c word”. I certainly don’t find the word interchangable for “woman”. However, my 6th grade English teacher was a real bitch, & I stand by my statement.
there there…& for some reason i’ve always thought Laurent was a european chick. am i wrong? maybe Laurent is a dude’s name.
but that’s neither here nor there.
for the record…i don’t think Laurent was bashing on you Turk. gobble gobble man.
Women. Emotional creatures. So frail, and duty bound to periodic fits of hystrionics.
Is this what you mean escalation in endless rounds of nastiness? I think your reaction is a wee bit overboard, or perhaps you jest. If not, I feel for your frail sensitivities and the man so bold as to gage their temper.
I wasn’t “bashing” at all, but merely pointing out that ‘Lost’ is not a program normally equated with misogynistic sentiment or political incorrectness. I hardly think Jack, nor the writers behind his character, were being insensitive by using the perfectly acceptable idiom of “every man for themselves”. My suggestion to you is to work on desensitivity. In essence, I believed you were splitting hairs with your admittedly petty gripes. And I was honest with my suggestion to tune into some Bravo programming. I particularly enjoy ‘Workout’ and that villainess harpy, Mimi who is still tangled in Jacki’s life… sorry, going on a tangent there.
I am not a woman, I am married, I show disproportionate egalitarianism towards the fairer sex (as most men eager to bed so often do), and was not ‘bashing’ you in the least bit. Perhaps, where I come from, people are more honest in their discourse and show a more profound restraint when confronted with their unwieldy emotions.
So sorry.
Oh yes!
I despise ‘24′.
I stopped with ‘Sopranos’ after the 2 year hiatus.
I am increasingly beginning to dislike, as you so aptly put, the blatant didacticism of ‘Southpark’
I do enjoy ‘Heroes’, ‘Anthony Bourdain’s No Reservations’ (this is über politically incorrect), ‘Rome’, ‘The Shield’ (although I haven’t picked up after season 3), ‘Frontline’ an occassional episode of ‘Workout’, and I do miss ‘Meet the Barkers’.
Thank you for your mitigated apology, Laurent. Although your unmanly jabs were not lost on me, I have been sufficiently placated and will not deign to respond. You can hardly be blamed for inadvertantly conveying a hostile tone in your second language. BTW, my regards to your wife. Is she losing air yet?
No. Never. I only buy quality, double taped seams, and recommended by Jorge Garcia.
Ciao
“Perhaps, where I come from, people are more honest in their discourse…”
cop out. evaluation of a poster’s content, maybe. baseless jabs aimed at the poster him (or her) self, nah.
btw…’the shield’ got good again the last couple seasons. I thought season 3 was a little weak, but #4 with glenn close was pretty good. then last year’s with forest whitaker and the whole shane/’lem’ finale seemed to recapture the grit of seasons 1 & 2…good stuff.
I suppose I meant honest in the sense of brutally honest. It’s like the Seinfeld episode, here it’s perfectly OK to say that a baby is ugly, in the US this can lead to incarceration. I wasn’t trying, nor do I think I came off as hurtful in my oroginal post. There was no personal attack at all, but water under the bridge…
I tried to buy season 4 last time in the states, but thet want almost $70 for it!
I purchase most of my programming directly via iTunes, but their season offering are scattershot (1,3,5) WTF?
Nice ARMofSD…heh, heh. No, Laurent is most definately a man’s name. It’s just his European sensibilities that threw you off.
Here’s a little bit of comedy to remove some of the pain from last night’s episode. Kate hawking her wares to any lonely late night loser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDYQVKPkWQk
Also, it seems the lost fanatics have been doing their sniping over on the 10 reasons lost sucks article comments section as of late. Lots of the typical “if you hate the show, why do you watch it” and “you are a loser, I hope you die” type stuff. I guess only JT is brave enough to bring his completely indefensible arguments into the episode threads (kidding). So, if any of you get tired of immasculating JT with your clearly superior arguments as to lost’s lameness (again, kidding), you may want to head over there to get your argument / discussion fix.
Please calm a bit dude, Tyler.
You were complaining alot about the long staring factor by the start of the season. Alot of people supported this and have you noticed any real long staring in the recent episodes? Nope. we gave it better pace now. You were saying that since an episode starts with a flashback then there is so little plot to cover. Did this episode start with a flashback? no.
We Actually admitted in our latest podcast that people age gonna say the show has jumped the shark. we foreseen you reaction. it was supposed to be an easy episode with two funny characters and hot chicks and little action but you can’t take it the way it is. Always complaining.
Say what now?
Oh I get it, I’m supposed to be LOST when I read this comment…
Is this supposed to be an attempt at satire?
How dare you claim to be me!
as a writer for the show i’d never make the gramatical erros you’ve made here on this page. imposter. allow me to point out your mistakes.
We Actually (actually shouldn’t be capitolized) admitted in our latest podcast that people age (don’t you mean “are”?) gonna say the show has jumped the shark. (there should be 2 spaces folowwing a period…not just one) we (capitol W) foreseen you reaction. (we forseen you reaction? come on now…We’ve forseen your reactin) (2 spaces)it (capitol I)was supposed to be an easy episode with two funny characters and hot chicks and (to many ands…try two funny characters, hot chicks, & little action)little action but you can’t take it the way it is. (you can’t take it the way it is?…what the hell is that even supposed to mean? is that a statement or a question?…& 2 spaces. Always complaining.
The ‘Lost’ island is a karmic pole. Just as the earth has a magnetic pole, the Lost island is its karmic pole. The mystics alaways talk about certain places on the planet having more positive energy and vibes and such, well the island is the epicenter.
The dead giveaway is of course ‘Dharma’ anyone with a passing interest in yoga, buddism or vegetarian cooking for that matter understands its basis in karmic religions. We also know that those who are in negative karmic balance always have their debt meted out to them commensurately in this show. Ana-lucia (shot), Mr. Mark Ecko (does the smoke monster represent the cloud of addicition, as he was a drug dealer?), Nikki and Paulo (poisoned with a macabre twist), the incestual step-models (Shannon and Boondoggle accidently in love and accidently die). Sayid is… tortured. Desmond is forced to relive his life (he must be at end stage nirvana).
Then of course the island gives back: Locke walks, the mixed race couple go back to being a middle-aged Benetton ad, Jack settles things with his dad, Walt gets his dad, Jin’s penis works. Further karmic balancing where Sawyer gets his stuff stolen, Hugo gets lucky (he made it with Lilly, right?).
There are plenty of holes in this theory, but I blame that on the writers. Lilly, why did she die?
Yep, too many holes. Back to the drawing board, as the Lost writers so often do.
yes, you actually have to wonder whether ‘Dharma’ was intended to be subtle (another horrible attempt at cleverness), or actually a literal reference to Dharmic faith and natural law and order.
the rest of your specifics seem like a stretch, but I wouldn’t put it past this show to be so…transparent.
It seems obvious that karmic concepts are at work in the plot; but so what? Karma is reality & we see it at work every day- doesn’t really make the show very “deep” now does it?
This show is the carotid artery of primetime television.
I hate the FUCK out of it and hope it keels over after its steeped in its own rancid, disgusting American fat long enough.
I’ve seen it all now: That episode was the biggest piece of garbage that I have ever seen. So, I went over to tv.com to read the Lost message boards (those of you who know me know that I like to read what those crazies have to say). I read things like “this episode proves the producers have a great plan for the show”, “one of the best episodes this season”, “anyone who doesn’t appreciate this episode doesn’t get Lost”, etc,etc. I thought that maybe, just maybe, the people on that board would wake up after that ep. It appears not. Even after that garbage ep they are still drinking the koolaid.
Yes, but what I really love is how when somebody is brave enough to say: “wait a minute, I didn’t like that episode”, gets shouted down like they’re advocating the legalizing of pedophilia. Never fails to amuse me…
word! people of higher intellect apparently love clever writing that shows you events that already happened (and that the viewer has already seen) but from a different perspective. ahh…I see. So paulo wasn’t really dropping a duece in the bathroom, he was hiding diamonds! SO CLEVER! I’m glad that mystery is finally solved.
didn’t they pull that trick when they turned the season 2 premier into 2 episodes that essentially showed the same thing??
i’ll invade the tv.com boards – bring law to the lawless, bring justice to the, erm, justiceless and polar bears for the masses….
if the episode sucks, which they do quite frequently, then why not tell those that are so stupid that they think its real and that jack is actually a doctor….
i find it incredible that people are into this just as much now as the first series…its nowhere near as good…and has fewer polar bears….
right on, JP. i used to occasionally post on the abc site, and a few other folks also would comment on inconsistencies. but we were far outnumbered by the lemmings. it was somewhat amusing (even if disappointing) that so many people took a random critical comment so personally. I never said THEY sucked, just the show.
By the way, you really want to see crazies? Check out Losttheories.com- if you can get past the constant proxy error messages (talk about 2 giant hamsters on a wheel…) there are some serious belly laughs to be had there. Some of the theories are worthy of Doctoral thesis in crazy bullshit (in other words: a regular Doctoral thesis, heh, heh…).
That site is fucking hilarious. I especially dig the one dude who suggests purgatory as a possible theory, and acts like he’s the first person who came up with this brilliant idea.
Also while you’re there, look for a post about the “Flame theory” by one of our friends here at whyLostsucks. You think it went over badly here…
just checked this site out…i mean come on..what are these lot smoking?
and i quote from “jacks dad isn’t dead…”
Jack finds his Dad’s Casket in the cave and it is empty. The only explanation is that while falling though the air the body fell out while in midair or something like that, but what is he wasn’t in the casket to begin with?
yeah, we’ve seen a couple of hungry ass polar bears and a massive ocean and it couldn’t have possibly fallen out somewhere else….and i’m pretty sure with jack being a doctor and all he might just have some small incline that his dead has kicked the bucket and isn’t asleep…
ATTENTION ALL!!! GO TO SUPERDELUXE.COM IMMEDIATELY & LOOK FOR THE VIDEO TITLED: “WRITERS OF LOST”. DO IT NOW!!!
I almost wet my pants right here at my desk.
ha ha ha ha
next week’s episode betting odds
2/5 the magic turtle swallows the ocean
1/7 lock and kate switch brains….
quality shout there nico
I was thinking 4 to 1 that a witch casts a spell that makes the island start sinking…
nice shout again…but sinking into what if the magic turtle has taken the ocean away?
tried to post something on tv.com and it came up saying it wouldn’t allow me….grrrrrr
Don’t give up the good fight! There’s always people to terrorize on the Entertainment Weekly boards!
entertainment weekly? i’m so there dude…tv.com has a review on it to say Lost is at its lowest ratings to date….really? is that because it sucks big floppy donkey balls?
i think so….
Plus, not enough polar bears… or magic turtles…
you know what would get the crowds back? throw a predator or 2 in there…or a polar bear with a shoulder cannon and infrared capabilities to hunt down hurley…
OMG THAT IS TOTALLY HOW THEY BRAINSTORM THEIR SCRIPTS!!
“Why Hurley is still fat when he’s been running around on a virtually foodless island??”
Funniest thing I’ve ever read (following is a comment on Lost found on IMDB):
“If you like shows with action, you will like LOST.
If you like shows with complex characters and interactions, you will like LOST.
If you like shows with drama, mystery, and suspense, you will like LOST.
If you like shows with humor, you will like LOST.
If you like shows where you can watch an episode twice and view it in an entirely different way, you will like LOST.
If you like shows where each and every scene has a meaning… Get the picture?
Quite simply, if you have ever liked a TV show at all, you will be hooked”
I can’t prove it but I beleive the comment was made by someone with severe mental issues.
if you like shows with flashbacks….you will like Lost…
if you like shows where the popular figures are killed, you will like Lost..
if you don’t want a coherent plot line to a tv series and missing polar bears, that are smarter than the average sawyer, you will like Lost…
i believe that comment was made by Dr F. Lobotomy from the university of mongo
if you like garbage dumped on your head once a week, you will like LOST
if you like to stand still; & sometimes even move backwards, you will like LOST
if you go to sleep every wednesday night wondering why you subject yourself to the torture that is LOST, you will like WHYLOSTSUCKS.COM
man, this show has reached a weird cult status…one cult worships the crap they generate every wednesday, TIVO-ing each episode so they can catch screen shots (OMG, if you look closely…Nikki is in the background of the TV show that locke is watching during his flashback of a TV show starring Nikki who is giving a lap dance to christian who is has a picture of Any Lucia in his wallet…this is SO complex!! They’re all connected!!!)
the other cult (us) likes to drop their pants and moon the 1st cult and call out the ridiculousness of the show.
at least other shows that had a geek-fest following were cool. this show is like anything aaron spelling ever made rolled into one. even the ‘razzle dazzle’ line evokes Charlie’s Angels. But farrah et al never took themselves so damn seriously!
i’m all for mooning the lobotomised half of lostites, just point me in the direction and the old rusty sherrif’s badge is coming out….
ATTENTION ALL!!! GO TO SUPERDELUXE.COM IMMEDIATELY & LOOK FOR THE VIDEO TITLED: “WRITERS OF LOST”. DO IT NOW!!!
Just wanted to put this further down the page in case somebody didn’t look at everything from the top down. If you post on whyLostsucks.com & don’t look at this video you are doing yourself a disservice & missing out on the best laugh I’ve had in ages!
I think you guys might dig this one, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyZuFvsTVxY
Outstanding!!! Could not have laughed harder.
Best part: “Let’s do the dog thing”
Almost as classic as the Family Guy writing staff made up of manatees on Southpark.
“Ok, but in 2.5 years, we have to get serious about this thing…promise?”
Well, here we are on the brink of another Wednesday evening. That can only mean one thing: it’s Prince spahgetti night… just kidding… it’s time for Lost. While I used to look forward to this event (a nice bowl of popcorn for me & my financee- some quality couch time together); I know shudder at the very thought of what horrors will unfold with each passing episode. What former favorite character will be defiled? What new, useless characters will be introduced (remember “the sheriff”? wtf happened to her old, wrinkly ass? already forgotten)? What new “exciting” mystery will be posed, only to be forgotten before the start of season 4?
Man, we really are a bunch of sich, masochistic puppies aren’t we?
I NOW shudder, not “know shudder”… Dangit Tyler- how ’bout a freakin’ edit function up in here?
tonight you will meet a flashback involving kate getting it on with ecko, she can’t remember because of the islands magical powers, oooooo, but ecko’s dad, who happens to be one of the others, was befriended by ben who was a close friend of jacks dad, who is still alive and eating KFC on the other island with the smoke monster making a 10% tip on orders delivered within 8.5 minutes, but hurley smells the food (fat git) and decides to investigate only to be captured by the sayid’s ol army general who happens to be the father of a magical turtle. you then go into another flashback involving micheals escape only to end up on yet ANOTHER island with another set of others and a bunch of cannibals – serves him right for abandoning jack, kate and sawyer – meanwhile – it turns out that the polar bears where infact previous crash survivors – locke turns out to be jesus but gets bit on his ass by a spider and is buried alive…ready for the resurrection…they all think its a miracle and begin writing The Bible v2.0
That’s some heavy shit man… put down the jah stick & chill out. Seriously though, sometimes I wonder about the whole Bible V2.0 thing. The writers of the show seem a bit obsessed with the quasi-religious aspects of the show. Be it in the form of the New Testament (Jack SHEPARD, get it?) or Buddhist musings (DHARMA (TM), get it?).
i’m excited. as usual. i can’t wait. as usual. 7 hours & 49 minutes acording to my watch. i’ve still got faith. i’ve been let down time & again this season. & last week’s episode was a slap in the face. i don’t think that they can do worse then expose. whateva. we’ll see what happens. sigh…
Tonight’s ep, though, is unfortunately a Kate episode. Which means that even I, who can find something positive about every episode, will probably fucking hate it. Because I hate Kate. As does, apparently, everybody else, which makes me wonder why the hell SHE hasn’t been killed off.
I can tell you why- because like most actresses that can’t act she probably slept with somebody to get her job. Or it could just be that since most men are for some reason enamored with her rodent- like face & curveless body the producers figure they can’t afford to lose any more viewers by knocking her off.