Darling Nikki

After tonight’s episode, my mood towards Lost has gone from mild amusement to downright hostile contempt.  That had to have been one of the top 3 worst episodes ever.  I just don’t see the logic of introducing 2 completely throw-away characters, then killing them off in a meaningless episode.  There was no advancement of the overall plot.  It was completely pointless crap.  If it would have been a movie, I would have asked for my money back.  Now I just want 47 minutes of my life back.  Actually I do see the logic of it now, to pump out more crap and keep milking the show for as long as possible. 

I can just see the writer’s meeting on this one:

Writer 1:  Hey guys, we don’t really have enough material for an episode this week, what to we do?
Writer 2:  No problem, we’ll just make up some lame jewel thief plot and kill off Nikki and Paulo.
Writer 3: Who?
Writer 2:  You know those 2 filler characters….
Writer 3: Oh ya! Duh, I forgot!
Writer 1:  OK, but I can’t think of any movies we can rip off…
Writer 3:  I got it!  How about we do a Memento type timeline rip off, with a The Vanishing paralyzed and buried alive twist?
Writer 1:  Awesome dude, let’s do it!  Who wants nachos?

Written by Tyler on March 29th, 2007 with 172 comments.
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2007-03-29 02:15:16

that’s gotta be the worst episode i’ve ever seen. i was excited about the commercials. lame ass attempt to show other views of things we’ve seen. the whole episode was just awful. shannon acting like a bitch. boone searching for a pen. 2 worthless characters buried alive. so what. are they gonna show up alive for the season finale? OH MY GOD! I CAN’T BELIEVE IT! NIKKI & PAULO ARE BACK FROM THE DEAD! I LOVE THIS SHOW! the only worthwhile moment was charlie confessing to sun…& on that note…am i trippin or does charlie’s face look different? his nose….or jaw….or teeth…i can’t quite place it. maybe they’ll solve that mystery next week.

Comment by Can't....turn....it.....off!!
2007-03-29 12:26:51

I think they are conducting an experiment on the viewers. Remember sitting on the coach, your heart racing faster when trees swayed and dark fog chased people. Remember polar bears and horses. Remember hoping to catch a glimpse of anything, anything at all. Ahh…. Good times. Where have they gone.

 
Comment by Laurent
2007-03-29 18:00:27

Charlie looked like he had a clean shave. But what is up with Juliette? Holy face tightening! Man, she has the tell-tale squinty eyes and chiseled upper cheekbones of a recent facelift. I noticed it first last episode. Fake lips and now a facelift for a cosmetic surgery addicted actress. They’re going to have a hardtime spreading 90 days on an island in a span of four years with the growing paunch, wrinkles, facelifts and gray hairs of the cast.

Comment by Increasingly Rancid Turkey
2007-03-29 19:01:09

Botox.

 
 
Comment by iman
2007-03-30 17:52:41

If you guys hate the show so much why the hell do you watch it religiously? I can’t even watch it anymore

2007-03-30 18:01:14

who hates the show? upon review i’ve discovered that you are the only one that dropped the h-bomb.

if anything…i hate the fact that i still watch the show. but i don’t even hate that.

 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-03 16:58:11

i can only hope to someday soon attain your level of apathy for the show, such that I no longer care to watch.

 
 
 
Comment by David
2007-03-29 02:16:58

My post from 2 days ago….

“Comment by David
2007-03-26 23:19:59

All this talk about death got me thinking, “Who do I want to see die next on LOST?”

So I came up with a list.

1. Nikki and Paulo
(together and, it would be great if they scream “Arnts” as they go)

2. Aaron
(eaten by a wild dog, so I can hear Claire say, “A Dingo Ate My Baby.”)

3. Claire
(but, not Charlie because, I used to really like his character, so for old time sake he can live for now)

3. Julie
(preferably with a deadpan look as Kate shoots her, I know it will be a tough acting feat but, I think she can pull it off)

4. Kate, Jack & Sawyer
(it’s for the best, I don’t think their contract allows them to act with anyone else anyway)

I’d like to keep Bad Ass Locke around but, if Retrado Locke show up again swap him for Claire. Also Jin and Sun because for once I’d like to see a minority make it close to the end of a major movie or tv show.

But the perfect ending would be every dies except Rose and Bernard who ambush Michael and Walt while coming back from being lost at sea all this time. They kill them and eat them and Rose and Bernard live happily ever after.

So there is my list, now give me yours.”

Looks like I called it. Even the part about Dr. Arntz.

I must be tapping into my inner Lost writer.

All I can say is Aaron look out.

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 11:33:33

“Arntz!”, yeah makes perfect sense now. I didn’t remember his last name, just that his first was Leslie. He’s also still the only good Redshirt the show has ever had. Not just cause he was the first, but because the way he checked out was the most impressive.

 
 
Comment by M
2007-03-29 02:48:22

Burning, seething, horrible rage. Contempt. Puke. Period.

 
Comment by tommyj6168
2007-03-29 02:53:51

Yes, Sawyer’s “Who are you?” to Nikki was quite annoying. It wasn’t really funny the first time and to have to hear it repeated twice in this episode was very grating — although probably appropriate given how difficult the whole show was to watch. I guess the phony “Exposé” at the beginning was to set us up — they made Nikki’s acting so obviously dreadful at the beginning that one might actually think she was acting passably well later. It didn’t work. Kinda hard to buy a brainless valley girl as master conwoman.

And it was sad to see Billy Dee Williams in such a pointless role. I suppose on Lost it is always possible that he really is the key to all of the mysteries on the island (as himself no less). It is even more sad that the only thing people seem to associate him with is his Lando role in the Star Wars movies. Hasn’t anyone heard of “Brian’s Song” or “Mahogany”?

Ben telling Juliet that he would convince Jack to do the surgery by “doing what I always do, find what he is emotionally invested in and exploit it” or words to that effect was groan worthy as well. Did it ever occur to Ben to just ask Jack, instead of getting himself taken prisoner, getting Michael to murder, etc . . .? Everyone knows that a doctor will always treat a patient in need. Juliet even said that in the operating room. And the Others are supposed to be the good guys? It makes no sense.

I could subtly see the pained looks on the regular actors’ faces as they went through the motions for this episode. They must have been wondering themselves what the point of it was. “Exposé” is a fitting name to the episode, as it served to once and for all expose that the producers have no idea where anything is going. They brought back some of the things people once liked about the program for brief appearances — a clear sign that they understand the best is in the past. They are also exposing that they really aren’t committed to Lost anymore. Such a lazy effort demonstrates that they are busy planning for their next projects. Very sad.

Comment by David
2007-03-29 08:14:02

“Brian’s Song” is a great movie.

 
2007-03-29 09:11:40

let us not forget billy’s roles in Batman, & the timeless Colt 45 commercials…

 
Comment by Laurent
2007-03-29 18:06:04

All the acting seemed really bad. I think the Boone actor (this guy just needs to give up the dream) leant his acting coach (Verne Troyer perhaps) to the Sawyer and the Nikki actors. The girl that played Nikki was dreadful… hot as hell, but dreadful nonetheless. I always thought that the Sawyer actor was a bit weak in the skills department and this episode proved it. Shannon and Boone showed up, thankfully for Sawyer, and made his performance shine like O’Toole’s Lawrence in comparison.

 
 
Comment by tommyj6168
2007-03-29 03:05:16

BTW, I noticed on some fansite that there is a bunch of Lost worshippers up in arms because I guess the producers, in some podcast that aired recently, promised that there would be a “game changer” in this episode leading to the characters of Nikki and Paulo becoming “iconic”. The only game changer I noticed was Hurley’s slamming ping pong return on Sawyer. And Nikki and Paulo are now iconic for something — bad acting (although I hear Paulo was good as the Persian ruler Xerxes in “300″). Apparently, the producers also indicated that a major character would be revealed as gay in this episode (did they read my theory of “The Flame”?) The only clue I noticed was Shannon scolding Boone for “flirting” with Paulo. Maybe Boone and Paulo can get a gravesite together on the island.

Comment by Increasingly Rancid Turkey
2007-03-29 19:04:37

Perhaps the game changer was that lame scene between Juliet and Ben… or perhaps the revelation (gasp) that Sun was actually kidnapped by the Hobbit and Sawyer. And BTW, nothing was good in or about “300″. I’m an ancient history buff, so I got suckered into going to see it. I can assure you that Paulo is quite consistent as an actor.

Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-03-29 20:35:02

ha!

snob! apparently you don’t like xerxes as bi-curious?

Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-02 14:51:24

Guilty as charged.

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Comment by Johnny
2007-03-29 07:19:11

did anyone else hear the monster when paolo got paralyzed?

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 12:42:12

I thought it was the burrito I had eaten earlier…*burp*…

 
Comment by Evil
2007-03-29 12:44:27

yes, it was gratiuitous and pointless.

Comment by JT
2007-03-29 12:51:27

I thought it was one of those plot point thingys.

Comment by Laurent
2007-03-29 18:09:29

At least the spiders didn’t make noises, growls, or some sort of lame squeek noise. That would have really been bad.

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Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-03-29 07:40:02

awful…and I only watched 1/2 of it! hate to think how much more my head would hurt had I seen all 60 (or 42) minutes!

the direction seems to be following the lead of the writing and acting…bad. one shot of sawyer was some hokey daytime soap ’slow-mo zoom in for a close up’ shot.

and…even if you want to think being burried alive is original, and horrifying, these are two characters we knew little, and cared about even less. my reaction at the end was…eh. if it’s a character you’ve become attached to you might scream “OH NO!” (if you like that character) or “GOOD RIDDANCE” if you hated them. but with these two…I have no real feelings one way or the other. I simply don’t (didn’t?) care.

Comment by David
2007-03-29 08:11:39

Hurley’s eulogy actually made me laugh.
Maybe they should make it a sitcom.

Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-03-29 09:10:34

right! but be careful what you wish for…

THIS FALL ON FOX: A LAID BACK SURFER-DUDE LOTTERY WINNER FINDS HAPPINESS IN…SMALL TOWN NEBRASKA???!

WHAAAA??!?!?! DID HE SAY NEBRASKA? WELL THAT’S THE FUNNIEST ‘FISH OUT OF WATER’ SET UP I’VE EVER HEARD!!!

maybe it’s just me, but I’m more annoyed by most of these characters than anything. hurley seems to come off like a 5 year old anymore. his “innocent” lug bit wears on my nerves.

didn’t he say something totally hokey to sawyer?

Comment by Laurent
2007-03-29 18:11:03

Well, I was really beginning to like the characters right after they murdered a lame TV show director/producer.

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Comment by Laurent
2007-03-30 19:44:56

bud-dum-dum!

thankyousomuch- Jimmy in Southpark after another tanking joke.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by JJisLosttoo
2007-03-29 08:11:03

You’re all right. This show has taken a wrong turn. It over promises and under delivers each week. Since the outrage of last seasons”recap” episodes they have gone onto filling the season with bad writing and stealing plotlines from other movies and tv shows. Next week is their last chance for me. If they don’t start with the main characters and the original plot (with the SMART Locke) it’s back to Spanish TV with the hot chicks. I don’t understand what there saying… but at least it looks good.

Comment by dhyasyn
2007-03-30 15:14:08

i agree . i dont know what they say either but they make more sense then lost does . where did these spiders come from and how come noboddy got bit before ? or why didnt leslie warn people also the timeline didntt seem to add up and if paulo was stashing the diamonds in the pearl how didnt ben and juliet know he was down there ? there was only one way in and anyone would know someone was down there with the bulkhead doors open. screw this soap im done .

 
 
Comment by stellar
2007-03-29 09:16:57

LOL

in one of the recent audio intervews with the producers they actually admitted that people are gonna say lost jumped the shark… they actually already knew this episode would suck.
“I think some people are gonna say that lost has jumped the shark. you know ,people on the sites like…..um”

as for gay characters…hmm just check the next promo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_2_QlhKDYM&eurl=

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 11:19:34

Attack of the Redshirts! Hmmm… let’s drag out all the dead, secondary characters- even the idiot who blew himself up. This must have been the episode they filmed while all the “major” characters were on hiatus doing other projects. That happens a lot with large ensamble cast shows since nobody is getting paid all that much by Hollywood standards. I mean, when did the Jr High science teacher have asperations of being the next Darwin? I must have missed that in between all the parts where he was just an idiot wannabe scientist who blewed himself up real good. I don’t know which was worse: Nikki & Paulo’s acting, the lame Billy D cameo, or Shannon & Boone’s wigs in the airport scene. Plus, how did the Others (who at that time were monitering the survivors very closely) not notice somebody sneak into their hatch & mess with the shitter? Plus, what’s up with Paulo’s scatological obsession? He’s always looking for tp, he hides the gems in the toilet tank…wtf? God, my brain hurts… Just awful…

 
Comment by JT
2007-03-29 12:15:56

It’s evident from everyone’s posts that you guys loved this episode, too! Awright! Glad to hear it.

Of course, because I am a pathetic human being, I thoroughly enjoyed this episode despite a number of shortcomings. Come on, guys! Boone was back in a shitty wig! Awesome. Shannon was as bitchy as ever! Love it. In case anyone’s curious what the big mythological reveal was, I believe it stemmed from the fact that the “monster” summoned all those evil paralyzing spiders to go attack Nikki, implying that the monster only goes after really nasty motherfuckers who poison people and steal their diamonds and do other malicious things.

Some of the stuff was contrived. I’ll admit that. Still dug it, though.

Not really sure how this is a Memento-style timeline, Tyler. Memento had a reverse-chronological timeline, starting with the most recent events — the episode used a normal timeline, based on the recency of events. And dude, I hate to criticize your blogs, because they usually have some valuable nuggets of insight within them, but you’ve said that the producers are milking the show, like, three times already. And yes, ABC is milking the show. Networks milk all shows. That’s what networks do. That’s why the Simpsons has been on for 6,238,232,238,232 years.

Also, guys, I have it on fairly good authority that (SPOILER!!!) Nikki survives, meaning the show didn’t just introduce two characters to kill them off.

Skep, you should have watched the last half. The entire buried-alive scene was actually pretty fucked up.

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 12:24:22

Grasping at straws my friend! Even YOU couldn’t have like this episode, I just can’t fathom it. Release your anger JT, turn to the dark side- you know you want to…

Comment by JT
2007-03-29 12:29:31

Heh. Well, Nico, I thought it was unique — I’m the kind of dude who tries to see something positive in *everything*, which is possibly why I didn’t start loathing this show during its glut of sub-par episodes. It was a cool attempt to keep things fresh, but I really think Damon and Carlton and all the powers that be REALLY played up Nikki and Paolo’s importance, which hurt things in the long run. I do also think they should have thrown in some more jaw-dropping answers to our questions — they really didn’t answer much of anything last night.

If there hasn’t been any publicity surrounding this episode, I think the reaction would have been a little more positive.

And come on, all straight males on this board have got to admit that Nikki is super hot. It makes me glad that my fiance does not check these boards, because that last statement would not make her happy.

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 12:52:03

She’s not bad looking, has a nice shape for sure. Kind of bad skin if you looked close though. It’s too bad your fiancee gets mad about these things. Mine is of the attitude that if I stop looking at attractive women its obvious my nuts have dropped off & then I’m no good to her either…

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Comment by Stickman
2007-03-29 13:02:36

I really can’t go with the characterization of unique for the ep. My wife, who is a TOTAL LOST sellout finally got fed up last night a spoke her first bad words about the show. Why?

Because it was complete cheating on the part of the writers. How can a show, 3 seasons in, create an episode that is just out of chronological order just so they can throw in ties to previous plot threads, etc. And I’m not buying “it was flashbacks” so it’s legal.

Thinking of this type opens the door to go back and create episodes that happened in the few weeks on the island so that all sorts of holes in the plot up until now could be filled in or new threads begun…well, that’s assuming the writers were clever enough to think of ways to fill in the holes. If they could though, THAT would be cheating.

I’m now to the point of total contempt, as I said in my other comments below.

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Comment by dhyasyn
2007-03-30 15:31:52

i dont even want answers anymore just some good action. remember when boone died , now that was a good epi .I didnt care about who was on the island just wanted action and there was plenty of it. now killer spiders make there debut appearence. next epi is nikki cursing people for paulos death and sifting through the sand for diamonds . or maybee both come from the grve and they’re zombies!eh , kate could get shot in face and i think i would care not …unless that sparked a war between them and its full blown war between losties and others .that would be good tv ! yeah locke could sink a hatchet into ben and juliets heads then scalp and peel off there faces and wear them .(like hannibal lectar) that would bring me back how bout yoiu

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Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-02 15:59:21

Can’t lie- I’d watch that with bells on!!

 
 
 
 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 13:48:14

Good point about the Simpsons, I haven’t watched in like, six years.

 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-03-29 13:48:53

actually…I watched the 2nd half (totally forgot it was on!). my point, I think, is still valid. they introduce these characters, then throw them into situations where we’re expected to care whether they die or don’t die or half die or are burried alive or fist each other while they’re half dead…doesn’t matter, I simply don’t care about these two characters.

I also think the ‘con artist’ bit is wearing thin. how many are there now? is this the island of the misfit grifters?

as for the timeline…not that clever. and while not a carbon copy of memento, it was a stunt none the less.

you’re not pathetic, just hopeful…or easily pleased. if you watch the show for what it’s become (pure popcorn fluff), it’s probably enjoyable.

2007-03-29 14:27:16

so like…

they make the mistake of introducing 2 new characters…

realize it was a mistake…

realize that they should have them disappear the same way they appeared…

but to avoid having to deal with the audience wondering where these 2 characters went they give us this crap so that
A)they can show that these 2 characters were “there” for the 1st 2 seasons &
B)they can erase their mistake in front of all of us so we won’t ask where they went.

i think they intentionally made this episode a piece of garbage so that we will unconsciously group nikki, paulo, & garbage together. that way when they kill the charcters they poorly created we won’t be upset. we’ll almost be glad that they took out the garbage.

whatever…

why the hell wouldn’t the 2 of them mention finding the other plane & the hatch? what’s that smell? sniff, sniff…garbage.

 
 
Comment by Tyler
2007-03-29 16:55:27

You are right, memento was the other way around. In my half drunken lost rage last night I got it backwards. I just meant the ridiculous 85 days ago, 27 days ago…. progression. And I have mentioned the fact they are milking it too much, beccause, well, they are milking it too much!!!

In the spirit of trying to find something positive, the slow mo scene of nikki walking in her bikini top towards the professor was pretty sweet. Oh wait, that was only slow-mo on my tivo several times, not the actual show.

I really do hope nikki is still alive. I think a great idea for a future episode would be where nikki and kate have a tree climbing contest straddling a palm tree coated in dharma brand baby oil.

Comment by JT
2007-03-29 17:01:20

“I really do hope nikki is still alive. I think a great idea for a future episode would be where nikki and kate have a tree climbing contest straddling a palm tree coated in dharma brand baby oil.”

Best Lost episode idea ever.

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 17:41:06

Can we get Sun & Alex involved in this as long as we’re dreaming?

 
Comment by dhyasyn
2007-03-30 15:38:17

dont worry nikkii is alive ! women dont die till sawyers done with’em.thats sawyer =2 jack=0 ,no wonder jack switched sides all the stress and not tit of gradatude

 
 
Comment by My IQ is 145 and amazingly I think Lost sucks
2007-03-29 18:00:16

Ummm…besides your blind devotion to a crappy show, I’ve found another piece of evidence to demonstrate your lack of intelligence…the spiders…summoned by the monster?…lol…perhaps you were blanketed in your own smugness- making it impossible for you to hear- when JR Science Wizard told Nikki about the powerful pheromones of the Medusa spider…seems to me, when she released the spider, that’s what attracted the swarm…but hey…seeing as how I’ve been complaining about this show for two years, I must be one of those “idiots with no attention span” that defenders of this show label…so don’t take anything I say seriously

2007-03-29 19:59:33

this is how i read it…

“I’ve found another piece of evidence to demonstrate your lack of intelligence”

(congradulations!…new evidence. where did you find it? please share this evidence with us & demonstrate our lack of intelligence)

“…the spiders…summoned by the monster?…lol…”

(lol indeed my friend. i must say, that is truly hilarious.)

“perhaps you were blanketed in your own smugness- making it impossible for you to hear”

(it is a very thick blanket…& i do always find it extremely difficult to hear anything when i have my smugness blanket pulled up over my ears…when, oh when will i ever learn?)

“- when JR Science Wizard told Nikki about the powerful pheromones of the Medusa spider…seems to me, when she released the spider, that’s what attracted the swarm”

(seems to me…- when My IQ is 145 and amazingly I think Lost sucks posted on this page…time stood still…)

 
Comment by JT
2007-03-30 09:53:42

Who the fuck is this jerkoff?

Anyway. It would take me roughly forty seconds to tear this imbecilic post to shreds, line by line, but I’ll just leave it at this: you are a complete fucktard who clearly didn’t understand that my original post — and ALL of my initial posts after a Lost episode first airs — was satirical. I always praise every episode while ignoring any negative aspects of it, because that’s my schtick on this site, which is in contrast to all of the blatantly negative commentary that erupts whenever an episode airs. Pretty much all non-assholes (read: everybody on this site except for you) seem to understand that I’m NOT BEING COMPLETELY SERIOUS WHEN I BLINDLY PRAISE AN EPISODE.

And no, I’m not taking jack shit you say seriously, because yours is the only post that’s blanketed in smugness. You insult my intelligence because of a trivial plot point on a television show? Are you eleven years old?

Regarding your blather about the pheromones, that means absolutely dick to me. I disagree with you on it, mainly because you’re a pompous asshole.

Have a nice day!

Comment by My IQ is 145 and amazingly I think Lost sucks
2007-03-30 11:58:49

the anger…my my…

Firstly, let me say this…I was unaware of your “shtick” and as an extension your role on this site. So, in that sense I made a needless post.

However, let also say this…my man, you need to relax…in a serious way…I was almost able to feel your blood boil and see your eyes and veins bulge as you furiously typed your angry response.

As you said, it’s only a tv show. Get some perspective.

P.S.

While it is true that I may be a pompous asshole, it’s so much better than being a sopping douche.

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Comment by JT
2007-03-30 12:13:02

Please, numbnuts. I’m not pissed, but I clearly have enough writing talent to make it appear that way to cocksuckers like you. Feel free to continue writing replies to me, and I’ll continue to pretty much call you all sorts of names, as it seems clear to me that all you’re trying to do is start some kind of juvenile flamewar.

Luckily for me, all you’re doing is making yourself look like a slavering retard. Did you think the entire site would shower you with LOLs and ROFLs at your Shakespearean prose?

I await your next reply. Hopefully, it will be rife with cliches, such as “it’s only a show!” and “stop getting so angry!” Good luck!

 
 
 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-30 12:57:24

I don’t get it… is this guy trying to be funny? Or is he being critical of the website? I didn’t really see anything in the post to make anybody upset even if it was a bit sarcastic.

Comment by JT
2007-03-30 13:10:49

He was targeting me, apparently because I’m the easiest to target on this site. He also implies I’m a blind devotee of the show, when my posts on the site suggest otherwise.

I think he’s also quite fond of the penis.

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2007-03-30 18:18:57

quite fond indeed.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by azerus
2007-03-29 12:16:03

the show has jumped the ‘’whatever is larger than a whale’

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 14:19:34

Humped the shark dude… humped the shark.

 
 
Comment by Evil
2007-03-29 12:31:45

I have to say, I found this episode entertaining, but in a completely frivilous unimportant way. I was bored, so I decided to watch.

Now, that is not to say that the episode didn’t suck. It was a complete smack in the face to loyal watchers who want, you know, PLOT to progress. It was a brazen filler episode.

And the worst part about it was when they meagerly, pathetically tried to tie it into the regular plot with cameos by Ben and Juliet— WAIT, SO THEY GO ACROSS THE ISLAND TO THE FUCKIN TV ROOM TO HATCH THEIR VILE PLANS? AND BASICALLY SPY ON THE CASTAWAYS WITH THEIR BLACK AND WHITE, **SOUNDLESS** ZENITH TV, CIRCA 1952???????????????????????????????????????????????

I mean, that just totally destroyed the mysteriousness for me. Ben “finds out what people are emotionally attached to and exploits it????” No. He knew what Jack’s wife looked like, he has ESP or something, don’t tell me he just watches Castaway TV after the “Honeymooners” is over in the Pearl station.

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 12:50:00

Yes, once again they reinforce just how utterly pedestrian the Others have become.

Comment by Evil
2007-03-29 14:51:48

pedestrian is the perfect word. They were magical for seasons one and two, until they couldn’t figure out where the magic came from– so now they’re just, you know, people, with close-circuit tv and leaves on their feet.

 
 
 
Comment by M
2007-03-29 12:32:27

this show sucks so bad, it makes me wanna fuckin smack the living shit out of the writers. fuckin hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry guys, had to get that of my chest after wasting another hour of my life.

Comment by JT
2007-03-29 12:54:33

Wow. You sound pissed!

 
2007-03-29 14:29:19

can i get a big fat word

 
 
Comment by Stickman
2007-03-29 13:14:43

Contrived. That’s my one word summary of the ep. Also, I have to agree that I’ve reached the point of contempt for the show.

1. You are not allowed to create shows that attempt to go back and tell things that happened at the beginning of the series because you didn’t have the foresight to include those things in the plot the first time you were going through in chronological order. Lame.

2. Ben might as well have preceded his comments to Juliette with: “I am now going to explicitly spell out my character for all of the people who watch this show and don’t have enough gray matter to catch on by now: I manipulate people by…”

3. “Why don’t you climb up in that plane paulo?”…”No, it might fall and kill me”. “Oh, what’s this hatch?…In the future, I’m going to have to pretend like I’ve never been here if I see it again.” Every bit of that whole “these characters have been an integral part of the storyline and existence of the castaways the whole time, you just never recognized them until now” made me want to throw something through my TV.

4. First five minutes of the show (Expose)…possibly the lamest thing I’ve ever seen. And here’s an original character motivation for this show: They’re con artists. Yeah, thanks…covered that with Sawyer, Locke’s dad, Kate. Got any original ideas?

5. And if that chick survives four feet of dirt on top of her I might just lose it. Anyone ever gone to the beach and even just been buried up their neck for funsies? “Just as the dirt was being shoveled onto her, she brought her hands up to her face to create an air pocket - which hurley and sawyer didn’t notice that the dead body had moved. Then, as she regained sensation, she started wiggling her toes, then her legs, until eventually she was loose enough to break through to the surface”.

On the bright side, my wife, who has never uttered a bad word about the show until now finally said last night how stupid it was. So, if she decides to stop watching, I may be able to finally get away from this train wreck.

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 13:35:04

My finacee has finally gotten fed up too. I’m pretty sure I’ll have to suffer through the rest of this season, as the show limps towards summer. However, next year I might become another BigJim, just popping up occasionally to shout: “Lost sucks!” & then vanishing back into the shadows.

 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-03-29 13:52:19

“Ben might as well have preceded his comments to Juliette with: “I am now going to explicitly spell out my character for all of the people who watch this show and don’t have enough gray matter to catch on by now: I manipulate people by…” ”

ha! excellent. they seem to do this more frequently than I remember. overt explanations for stupid crap.

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 14:07:44

Yes, I keep waiting for Basil Exposition to walk out from behind a case of Dharma ™ brand mayonaise…

Comment by Evil
2007-03-29 14:55:45

Basil: Austin, the cold war’s over.

Austin: Well finally those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes. Eh comrades? eh?

Basil: Austin… WE won.

Austin: OH SMASHING. YAY CAPITALISM.

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Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-03 17:13:51

“And if that chick survives four feet of dirt on top of her I might just lose it. Anyone ever gone to the beach and even just been buried up their neck for funsies? ”

no way…if either of them survive, i call bull shit. a cubic foot of sand probably weighs…50lbs? (I’m basing that on a cubic foot of H2O weighing 65lbs or so)

they had her a few feet in the ground, and piled the sand on above ground level. must be several hundred pounds (or more) of sand each of them. no way they don’t suffocate. no way they could claw their way out.

this is a pre-emptive BULL SHIT call.

 
 
Comment by Stickman
2007-03-29 13:19:46

Also forgot to mention: after hearing the talk on the previous episode comments about Evangeline Lilly on Livelinks, I managed to do a google search and find this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDYQVKPkWQk

Pretty funny.

And by the way, no one has probably noticed but it appears as of late, the Lost worshippers have been posting in on the comments of the 10 reasons lost sucks article with the usual “if you hate the show why do you watch it ” and “you suck tyler” crap. Apparently only JT is willing to bring his completely indefensible arguments into the episode threads (kidding). So, once any of you get tired of immasculating JT with your superior arguments of why lost sucks (kidding again, relax), you can head over there and take on some new folks.

Aloha

 
Comment by WilliamT
2007-03-29 13:33:33

Okay, let me start off by saying that season 3 of Lost has gone nowhere and it seems that the staff of the show are using filler. Lost’s first two seasons have probably been the better of the group.
However, no ones requiring you to watch this show. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. Don’t argue about how awfully stupid one episode is and how you want your life back or how you gotten 45 minutes taken away from you. I mean, I don’t like Heroes or 24 or all the 20 billion crime dramas thrown on the air. I just choose not to watch them, not establish a website forum and argue how I loyally watch the show every week and then proceed extract every flaw or stupid scenario from the show. Every show has flaws, so I don’t see the point in trying to shoot this show down. If you hate the show like you guys say you do, don’t watch it. Because now people begin to believe that you like the show because in some ways you come back to watch it. Every viewer has something they want to change about a show, your opinions shown are just a little more harsh. Right now Lost has a high viewer count because I guess everyone who hates it still prefers to revserve their Wednesday nights to watch it.
Now isn’t that strange??

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 13:38:06

Sweet Jeebus, not another one of these guys… Maybe you should read the FAQ, or, oh- I don’t know- a couple of the posts before you go with the: “…if you hate it so much why do you watch it?” argument. Old hat guy, very, very old hat…

Comment by WilliamT
2007-03-29 13:48:31

then am i right?
because if you have no real rebuttal then i guess its somewhat true.
because all i see here is a groan. not a reply.

Comment by JT
2007-03-29 14:02:50

Look, dude, I don’t disagree with the overall thrust of your message — SOME (not all, by any stretch of the imagination) posters just bash the show because that’s more or less what this site is designed for, while ignoring any and all positive aspects of an episode. And that shit really is counterproductive. People know I hate it.

But if you read some of these comments carefully, you’ll notice several people on this site were definitely big fans of the show at one point (and I think, though no one will admit it, that a few people still ARE fans of the show). Many people here have cogent points about why they think the show is going downhill. I might disagree with some of them, but at least they’re honest sentiments.

My advice? Try to change everyone’s collective minds. Point out positive aspects of the show. That’s what I do. And sometimes it actually works!

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Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 14:04:14

I didn’t see fit to reply because it’s already been discussed about a thousand times, but here it is in a nutshell: Most of us have at some point been fans of the show. Now, since they have turned the show into cliched, rambling, poo-poo; we have come here to share our anger & occasionally wallow in our sorrow for what once was. Using the internet to bitch about things one has no control over wasn’t exactly invented with this site, but I think we’re pretty good at it all the same. And to use your own argument- if you’re so offended by this site, why bother to post on it?

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Comment by dhyasyn
2007-03-30 16:09:45

yes! go f**k yourself Willi t fuckhead !this site is for us (the lost haters )we love the show (what it used to be )and love to hate it even more .Here we can voice our frustrations and opinions unhindered.why dont you go back to abc or whereever you people praise every similarity inthe show . oh,my the spiders! the spiders ! oh ben and juli walk right through an open hatch door and walk right passed paulo . get know we know everyone on the island is dumb , greedy ,oh yeah and a con

 
 
 
 
Comment by Stickman
2007-03-29 13:45:58

At least he stopped short of the “you guys are big doo-doo heads who need to get a life” statements. While that may be true that I need to get a life, I definitely do not need to be reminded of that fact.

And yes…PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read the FAQ. It’s not hard. Just move your mouse to the left and click on the underlined, blue “FAQ”.

 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-03-29 13:54:57

what’s strange is that you feel compelled to make this point as if it’s original.

 
2007-03-29 14:36:15

hey…WilliamT…

shh…

do you want to be put on time out? i’ll have you sitting in the corner of this page for 1 hour wearing the www.whylostsucks.com dunce hat. behave. keep your hands to yourself & hush up.

no you may not use the restroom.

 
 
Comment by Christopher
2007-03-29 14:17:02

I am proud to saw I am a reformed Lost addict. I haven’t watched the last 3 episodes. I do come on this site however, to see what I (didn’t) miss. Even my friend who defends this show to no end said last night was ‘pointless’. While it was fun for a little while to watch the show just to see how bad it could get it became TOO painful. I thank South Park for being on at the same time. If Lost was still on at 9 I would probably still watch it, simply because I’m a loser with no social life who has nothing better to do.

Hmmm, I guess my post has become as pointless as this show.

 
2007-03-29 14:28:31

can i get a word!

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 14:30:12

Word!

 
 
Comment by jayfromcleveland
2007-03-29 14:56:29

If anyone posted this gripe I missed it:

Doesn’t it seem odd that, if the Island was filled with poisonous spiders that cause death-like paralysis, that only the science teacher and the bimbo would know about it? These castaways have been traipsing back and forth through the woods all day, every day for three months and no one has ever gotten bit? And before his untimely demise, wouldn’t Mr. Blown-Up Science Teacher have shared this important info with Dr. Jack, so that everyone could be forewarned? And with all the violence and mayhem among our heroes, no one tried this trick before? You could drive a semi through this huge plot hole.

While we’re at it, didn’t Hurley say that he was with the Others two weeks before? How is it then that the trip to the Pearl Station (from Season 2) was only 9 days previous? If so, I think the timeline is also a bit “lost.”

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 14:59:15

Great point about the spiders! All the survivors would be covered in bug bites in reality. After a walk through the jungle their eyes would practically be swollen shut. I guess all the mosquitoes & spiders are controlled by the Others or something…

Comment by jayfromcleveland
2007-03-29 15:28:09

My wife also noted that poison spider bites are usually big red swollen lumps that are hard to miss. If Paulo has one on his neck and Nikki on her leg, it wouldn’t take a neuro-surgeon to connect the dots, even a con man and a lottery-winning burger flipper could have doped it out. Especially before burying someone alive! Yeesh!

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-03-29 15:31:49

True, there is usually a pair of raised, swollen, red bumps with distinguishable holes at the center resulting from any type of spider bite (even from spiders much smaller than those). Don’t forget though- these are special, supernatural Dharma ™ brand spiders.

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Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-03-29 15:54:17

also…

it seems the only thing that motivates and unifies this group is a good grave diggin’!!!

they re