You call that a cat fight?

I’m really struggling to come up with something witty to say about the show anymore.  It just plain sucks ass.  It’s now just become a tired caricature of itself.  Even the twists and turns that used to be so cool are predictable now.  The show has a clear formula every that every episode now follows.

The 3 part Lost episode formula:

1. The main storyline:  Usually a trek through the jungle.  At some point the characters will fight each other and be chased by something to showcase the dramatic shaky camera work. If they get to where they were going, the next episode will be a trek back.
2.  The pointless flashback: Generally just re-hashing a previously good flashback from season 1.  There is really nothing worthwhile to add anymore, so the flashbacks must just be something for the actors to shoot when they aren’t in Hawaii.
3. The comedic sub-plot:  Sawyer calling Hurley fat, and Hurley calling Sawyer dude.  Or some variation of this theme. Comic gold I tell you.

Add a slow-mo music sequence at the end, and call it a wrap.  Another Lost episode in the can.

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Comment by benjamin
2007-04-05 02:24:03

the producers are delusional if they think flashbacks can be enteraining at this point

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-05 12:55:15

Flashbacks could be entertaining if they revealed anything new. It stands to reason that if we had NEVER left the environs of the island that the show would’ve gotten boring even faster. However as I’ve stated many times, we’ve had enough character development to last a lifetime. It’s time to get to some meaty plot driven stuff, dontcha’ think?

2007-04-06 00:24:10

fur shizzle

Comment by i just wanna post this shit nigga
2008-07-16 03:37:12

you know what you fucking bitch why dont you get off the lost makers they be tryin to make a fucking show and a bunch of little piussy ass niggas tryin to talk shit about some niggas whole lifes work who gives a fuck about you all these niggas ass blockin buttchocks why you all hatin on lost you feel it down and around get some of your lost fuckin walmart ass lookin walawala bing bangin shit droppin up on all fours i dont know what the fuck lost is the nigga next to me is lost thats some true shit bunch of godd damn haters i dont care if you hate lost but god damn leeave the man alone hes one guy workin all night to some fucking music probably some fucking monkeys slappin on they cocks anyways back to what you all nigga if lost isnt good enough for you ill make some goddamn lost shit thats good enough for ya so you all can stick you call that twistin these guys workin all night tryin to impress some little pussy niggas that are just gonna talk shit about it the only niggas that watch lost are people that just wanna talk about it so fuckin nigga im done im all out call me

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Comment by Danny
2009-05-28 09:56:32

Well it appears the writers of the show do post here.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by benjamin
2007-04-05 02:31:19

I think the flashbacks structure is a reponse to the traditional hollywood criticsm that continuous story line shows are bad because the episodes don’t stand on their own ie. no one would want to watch a rerun. the problem is that no one can care about these characters

 
Comment by tommyj6168
2007-04-05 02:44:08

Kate to Juliet: “Welcome to the land of not knowing what the hell is going on”. Oh gosh, aren’t the writers so clever? They manage to insert an inside joke into every episode. And Sawyer, the seasoned grifter, falls for the most transparent con job in history. Did he not think to ask someone about the ” banishment vote” earlier? And Hurley did it for the purpose of grooming Sawyer as the new leader? That’s great since Jack, Sayid, and Kate will be back soon — sort of pointless now. And I’ve got news — Sawyer WAS the leader and he became leader in his own way. Am I the only one who remembers his “there’s a new sheriff in town” speech? Now Sawyer is completely neutered.

The only reason I could stand to watch the entire episode was the possibilty of some girl/girl action with Kate/Juliet and/or Kate/Cassidy (although Cassidy doesn’t look as good as she did in previous episodes). Pretty convenient that there was a mudhole placed right in the path of Kate and Juliet so we could get to see them in a faux mud wrestling match. And I also wondered why the smoke monster didn’t just float right over the fence — when it first appeared in that scene, it was well above the height of the electrical barrier. I guess when logic gets in the way of the plot, the writers can just ignore reality.

It was nice to see Beth Broderick, although her screen time was very limited. I’d honestly be more interested in watching a program about her life as waitress in a greasy spoon than having to continue to endure the melodrama that Lost has become.

Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-05 07:43:04

ha! mudhole…that cracked me up too. the only thing that could’ve made it better is if they’d stumbled upon a few fluffy pillows, strip to their undies and starting whacking each other …feathers everywhere! woo hoo!

Comment by Laurent
2007-04-08 18:59:35

Well, before they hit the mud hole they broke through a pane of glass being carried by two workmen, then upended a fruit cart and fell 5 stories onto a pillowy cloth awning which tore and deposited them into a garbage bin filled (luckily) with trash bags, which was on the back of a slow moving flatbed truck, which then rolled over into stacks of hay. You have to slow the frame count down to catch it all.

 
 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-05 07:48:29

yah, I guess with locke leaving, they need to contrive some conflict, so having sawyer and jack fight over a leadership position neither of them want seems like “can’t miss TV!”

as for smokey…uh…duh! magic smoke can only keep its form up to 12 feet! now, if this were FLYING magic smoke, maybe then sure, it could go over. but we’ve seen nothing to indicate that this is the flying variety. just your average terrestrial magic smoke. DUH!

Comment by Evil
2007-04-05 10:28:53

I’m sure over at the “Answers” section of the “Theoriesonlost” website they are posting something about the smoke monster like: in this episode we learned that the fence can stop the smoke monster— somehow– even though it can crush people and make them fly into the air, and the fact that SOUND SHOULDN’T DAMAGE SOMETHING WITHOUT INTERNAL ORGANS.

 
 
 
Comment by patpond
2007-04-05 06:41:52

This is a great site, and I must say that I agree with everything, now for the bitching.

Well, this is my first comment here… well anywhere for that matter… concerning Lost. Let me begin by saying ‘Ugh’. And follow up with ‘FFS’. I’m not even going to comment on the show aired on April 4th. That would be like pointing out one piece of poo in a toilet. Rather look at the big picture… and flush. I was a die-hard fan of this show when it began, but it seems like the writers weren’t expecting it to last this long, or something. It almost looks like they’re going sooo far into character development ( We know ALL about the characters for crying out loud! What’s next, an episode dedicated to the time Hurley cheated on his SAT’s??? ) that they’ve lost sight of the main storyline, people Lost in the jungle??? Rescue??? WTF are those other ppl doing there etc etc…. yet I digress. I’m sure this has been said about a million times on this site.

Anyways, after 3 years of watching this melodrama and still not one answer. ( No, finding out the ‘others’ live on the island in houses, or that they have a ‘magic box’ is not answers, just more questions! ) Well, my rant is almost done, I just have to say, I’m giving this show until the end of this season. If nothing relevant is revealed, then I will be the first to gladly remove the TV reminder from my digital box and forget Lost ever existed. :P I’d invite all you ‘Others’ to join me.

My 2 cents…

Comment by patpond
2007-04-05 06:48:48

One more thing, I will mention this about the show April 4th. Why in the world would they go back to the beach?!?!? Very Aggravating! Instead go get your friends that are sleeping on the dirt and bring them back to ‘Other’ paradise. Running water, electricity and no monthly bills. Come on ! Of all the stupid decisions in Lost, that had to be one of the biggies for me.

Now I’m up to 4 cents… :D

Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-05 07:50:26

no shit! plus…protection (apparently) from magic smoke!

 
Comment by David
2007-04-05 08:25:49

Speaking of living arrangements. Why did they leave the cave with the waterfall?

Comment by Evil
2007-04-05 10:31:40

Maybe they left the waterfall because of the dead bodies floating in it, loyally strapped into their seat belts.

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Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-05 15:23:34

Amen to that!

Comment by JT
2007-04-05 15:44:30

You’re not staggeringly rancid today? Or putrid?

Does that mean you enjoyed the episode?

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Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-05 15:55:08

Yeah. I actually found it entertaining. Not good. Not very inspired. Frustrating at times. But entertaining, nonetheless.

 
 
 
 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-05 07:57:39

welcome aboard…and yes, while many of your points have been noted many times, it’s refreshing to see it through the eyes of the newly converted.

as for the flashbacks, I think you’re setting the bar way too high. last night we learned (and this is really REALLY clever!!), that kate’s and sawyer’s lives sort of crossed paths. and that kate ALMOST learned what sawyer’s name is years before she would’ve met him. WHEW! that was a close call! I mean, can you imagine?!?! hearing sawyers REAL name on the island, can you imagine the chaos?!?!…

“hold up! James Ford??? I ran into a woman a few years ago who I chatted with only brieflyl, but I have a really good memory, anyway, she mentioned she was con’d outta her life savings, by a guy she loved and HIS name was james ford!”

HOW CLEVER! but…almost clever…sadly, ::sigh:: her almost discovery was just a tease…now we’ll NEVER know if kate knew sawyer’s real name several years before they crashed on the island. another mystery unsolved : (

Comment by patpond
2007-04-05 09:36:13

I agree! I actually liked the many intersections in the first season (or was it the second season…?) It seems like the lives of the main characters were constantly brushing up against each other.

I’m still pissed though. Give us Something… sheesh.

Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-05 10:12:17

word!

“the first several times [it] was interesting…”

you can say this about many things on the show (intersections, flashbacks, con-jobs, nicknames, etc. etc.)

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Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-09 10:13:30

Yeah, I think that was yet another one of many lost opportunies passed up by the writers. Strange. It would only have added to the intringue on the island if Kate knew who Sawyer was and fell for him nonetheless.

 
 
 
Comment by Johnny P
2007-04-05 07:10:58

The only Kate flashback I want to see is of that month she spent in an S&M club with a goat and a priest….come on!

 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-05 08:07:30

I think all the criticisms are again (and as always) valid. formulaic, repetitive, same old tricks, etc.

here’s something I LIKED about last night’s epi…

Locke showing up and telling kate he was leaving. good b/c that’s a huge leap forward in a show that likes to cover every minute detail a dozen times so that every audience member has time to catch it. seriously…

we don’t know where they’re all going, why they chose locke, HOW they convinced him to go, etc. that’s one of the few instances in LOST where they actually let the viewer imagine some scenario that lead to that happening.

the downside is, we have 4 or 5 future episodes to look forward to explaining in every detail how locke came to that decision, with flashbacks and everything. (”hello, I’m John Locke, and today i’m going to leave with the others, and here’s why” ) woo hoo! now THAT’S exciting!

Comment by David
2007-04-05 08:27:24

DUH

His contract expired.

Comment by David
2007-04-05 08:29:25

Actually I heard they are going to bring him back but, use a different actor.

You can read all about it on fakelosttheory.com

 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-05 10:13:10

hmmm, I didn’t read about a DUI…so perhaps you’re right!

 
 
Comment by Evil
2007-04-05 10:57:24

Are you kidding me? That Locke and Kate scene was the most unnatural pathetic one around. This is what I saw last night.

Locke: Kate, I’m leaving with them.

Kate: Why???? Wait, before you can answer a really important question about motivation that would really be outside of your character to ignore, let me ask you another question that has NOTHING TO DO with our curiosity or the greater scheme against us so that we can’t get some real answers in this scene– Let’s see, what is a stupid question– oh yeah — where’s Jack?

Locke: Okay, I’ll answer that one because the writers have figured it out. They’re leaving Jack too.

Kate: Why?

Locke: Ummm. I know this is stupid, and believe me I am embarrassed as shit having to act out this pathetic script, but, your evil life as a murderer and shit– yeah– they won’t take you because of that– maybe you can understand that aside from the fact that the Other’s murder and torture and shoot people on their own and have no problem with it… But anyway, they won’t take Jack because of you– you’ve tainted him, or something, like we’re this Puritanical cult only in next season we will be something else. Anyway, the reason is inexplicable but for this episode I just have to act convincingly. See, I’m told in these notes to act as if I am part of the conspiracy right now, when in reality I have no idea what is going on. But back to my point, you can’t go with the Others.

Kate: Why the fuck would I want to? Remember how they are Evil? Why would anyone want to go with them– not that we even know where they are going —and why would these retarded writers figure that the audience would care?? I just want to get Jack and me back to that beach with the rotting bodies and the sand fleas so that I can have someone else to fuck other than Sawyer.

Locke: Oh. Okay. Well, in about 5 minutes, they are going to gas you so that you fall asleep. They could just tie you up and blindfold you– or hold a gun to Jack’s head and you’d surrender. You get captured really easily Kate. But for some reason, they are going to gas you while eerie Violin music plays, and then you’re going to wake up in the jungle handcuffed to Dr. McFrigid, you know, the bitch that used to cut off the corners of Jack’s sandwiches?

Kate: Yeah, I hate that bitch. She Judo flipped me earlier when I tried to– get this– attack her with a pool cue.

Locke: That was stupid. Anyway, she’s going to handcuff you to herself and pretend not to have the keys because– well you’re going to pretend to believe that she wanted to be “included” in the group of castaways, and she thought that risking her life handcuffed in the smoke monster’s back yard would accomplish that.

Kate: that’s stupid. she’s risking our lives so that we bond as a team. What is this, a corporate outing?

Locke: It’s okay, you’re going to fall in the mud, but other than that be fine. You’ll dive behind that sonic fence that was off for the last day or two– thereby allowing the Smoke Monster to eat people in the Other’s village, only it didn’t do that for some reason– and Dr. McFrigid will turn the fence back on.

Kate: Then what? Will I kill her?

Locke: No, you’ll have become trusted friends, and pretend to care about her. And you’ll rescue Sayid and Jack, who despite being gassed themselves and left ALONE IN A VILLAGE UNGUARDED, have stayed where they were.

Kate: What’s next.

Locke: Well, you’ll Trek back to the beach. You’ll have a schmaltzy reunion, you’ll all decide to live in the other’s village, and there will be an episode about trekking back to the other’s village.

Kate: so we’re just like, going in circles?

Locke: Yup.

Kate: When will this end?

Locke: I’ll come back in a few episodes, probably on my own, probably raving crazy making no sense. Or you’ll be stupid and try to “rescue me.” But nothing will progress beyond that. Then the others will probably raid the village, expelling everyone out and we’ll come back to the Beach we signed the 3 year lease for shooting on.

Kate: Can I just quit now?

Locke: No. You have no talent. And you’ll never get another job.

Comment by Matt
2007-04-05 13:05:02

Kate: What do you mean I’ll never get another job?! I can always go back to doing this:

Kate phone sex

Comment by Tyler
2007-04-05 13:14:39

Oh mamma!

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Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-05 13:25:26

Ha! I knew Tyler was LOVE that! Her teeth don’t look so beaverish in that commercial. Maybe she had them capped to appear more rodent- like?…

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-05 13:34:08

Holy schnikes! I meant to say he would love that, not “was love that”… Seriously, an edit feature- for the love of all that’s Holy!!!

 
Comment by JT
2007-04-05 16:23:47

Though Tyler won’t admit it, I’m pretty certain he totally dug the mud-wrestling.

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-05 16:31:12

I dunno’… I’m pretty sure the man who slo-mo’d his Tivo to watch Nikki jiggle across the beach would have no problem admitting to liking that scene!

 
Comment by Tyler
2007-04-05 17:42:33

Oh ya, I have no trouble admiting it.

 
 
 
Comment by Rancid Turkey
2007-04-05 15:35:53

LOL. Seriously, you should write for that show, dude. Maybe my expectations are now so low for this show, that I actually found some of it entertaining. Not good. But entertaining. Like Patpond above, I did question why they would not want to remain in the comfort of indoor plumbing and electricity… Whatever. And as much as the whole Sawyer expulsion plot was a whole lot of drivel, I found the levity amusing. You just have to laugh at how bad this show has become. Kate re-setting Juliet’s disloquated shoulder: priceless. Kate and Juliet rolling in the mud: priceless. Sawyer holding Claire’s baby: priceless. I will stop now, before I puke all over my shoes.

Comment by JT
2007-04-05 16:51:19

“I did question why they would not want to remain in the comfort of indoor plumbing and electricity…”

Because, I hate to say it, this would result in even more complaining, Turk. If they were to all move into the Gilligan’s Island huts and shacks, a whole new contingent of dissatisfied viewers would complain because the castaways aren’t living off the land anymore.

I swear, this show is utterly fucked no matter what the writers do — people are going to be get pissed off at everything, no matter what. Kind of a shame.

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Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-06 11:39:40

Can’t argue with you, but they have nobody to blame but themselves for letting the situation get to this point.

 
 
 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-07 19:25:45

well…I didn’t say it was well written/acted/thought out or natural…

I said, the fact that they didn’t spend a whole episode or three (from multiple perspectives) explaining how or why locke came to that decision, however lame that decision may be, is something different. they didn’t beat us over the head with their rationale. though…i’m quite certain they will soon enough.

Comment by Evil
2007-04-09 09:58:41

My spidey senses are picking up a “Black Box” analogy. Either that or we get to see Locke kill his dad………… Probably the previous given it’s ABC.

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Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-05 12:25:33

*sigh* I don’t even know what to say about last night’s episode. When I start running out of things to say, well that’s just bad. The whole idea of tossing Kate & Dr. Botox out into the jungle seems an obvious contrivance by the Others to win Kate’s trust somehow. Otherwise why leave Jack & Sayid right where they fell? Plus, the whole: “you broke his heart” thing is just ridiculous. I mean Jack & Kate have known each other for all of 80 days & he’s getting his heart broken? I know he’s supposed to be a big pussy, but- c’mon already. Pure soap opera BS of the most annoying kind is what it is. On top of that, they took the one thing that was still kind of scary & mysterious about the island- the smoke monster; and showed us it is somehow incapable of floating more than 12 feet in the air (even though we’ve seen it in the tree tops about a hundred times). Why Lord, why would the writers think people weren’t just going to laugh at that? The ending was yet ANOTHER slow-mo montage of the survivors having a beach blanket feast (except the scowling Sun- oooh, forshadowing! I mean she should be righteous & indignant, she’s perfect except for that whole being an adulteress thing…). That worked great the first time, not so good the next 5 times though. Of course, in the promo we see Sayid going back to his old bad ass ways- that’s something to look forward too right? I’m sure Dr. Botox will just remind him about the pet goat of a woman he once tortured & he’ll start crying like a baby (cue flashback) instead of torturing information out of her.

Comment by Tyler
2007-04-05 13:19:32

Great points Nico. Sayid is nothing but a paper tiger from now on, with empty threats. “How do you know I won’t kill you if you don’t tell me?” Oh, I don’t know Sayid, maybe cause you say that to everyone, then back down like a little puppy. What I wouldn’t give to see him actually snap one of the others’ neck, repulican guard style. Maybe i could respect him again.

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-05 13:38:54

Yes, Dr. Botox will just pull out one of those: “Hang in there” posters with the fluffy kitten & Sayid will put his head in her lap & start weeping or somthing.

 
Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-09 10:14:57

Nothing less would do to regain my respect.

 
 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-07 19:27:57

“I mean Jack & Kate have known each other for all of 80 days & he’s getting his heart broken?”

worse, he seems to have rebounded ultra-quick with juliet in…a matter of days? it’s like they’re in junior high. stupid.

 
 
Comment by RobbyLove
2007-04-05 12:48:34

Done done done-ski. I’m done. I can’t take it anymore. Talk about a filler episode that did absolutely nothing.

The situation with Sawyer was so ridiculously contrivied and obvious it made Mr. Ford look like a complete panty-waste.

Kate and the “Trinity-From-The-Matrix-wannabe” wake up and spend an extended period of time together after being gassed, yet Jack and Sayid are still out for the count in the village?

The paper-thin plot lines and the amateurish dialogue has gone from being annoying to down-right insulting. Kate looks out the window and sees at least 10 of the Others dressing in full riot gear. [Cue scary music]

Michael had the right idea: Shoot everyone and get the hell off the island.

Sounds like a damned fine plan to me.

 
Comment by JT
2007-04-05 15:12:53

What’s up, all of you crazy bitches? I see that your hatred of Lost is still going strong, which could only herald the arrival of the famed JT, to combat all of this vitriol with some good old-fashioned Lost praise!

Let’s see. Where to start? I know that everyone’s all pissy about the Monster not being able to do a double-butterfly half-gainer and fly over the force-field pillars. I thought the same thing, actually. But we’ve got to realize that it’s not like every viewer is a complete expert on the functioning and brainpower of a smoke monster in a fictional television series. So far, we know nothing whatsoever about this monster, except for the fact it looks like smoke and is apparently way evil. Maybe the damn thing can’t float above a certain height. I didn’t design the monster, so I’m not sure, but that’s a possibility.

Like I’ve said, I dislike Kate, so I was surprised I didn’t loathe this episode. The flashbacks were really nothing too spectacular, but I’ve always viewed them as sort of a framing device that parallels the action on the island. They’re not that important, in many cases, so I don’t think about them too much.

Seems to be a lot of Juliet hatred out there, so let me be the first to stand up and say she is 200 times more interesting than Kate has been or ever will be. The actress is more talented, too, than Evangeline Lilly.

The Hurley/Sawyer thing? Come on. It was funny. It was comic relief. I can’t believe people are actually bitching about it. Sometimes, television shows have scenes that are just there to make the audience laugh! It was cute, you know? Cmon, you cynical bastards! Let the sun in a little bit! It’s fun!

The mud pit? Yeah, okay, a little contrived. But whatever. If people want to bitch about two relatively good-looking women mud-wrestling, then go right ahead. And the Locke reveal that he’s “leaving”? Excellent. Love the mystery of it.

As many of you know, I could give a hot fuck about the J/K/S romance, so I’m not going to even really mention it.

And yeah, a lot of people are complaining about the alleged meta portions of the episode (like Kate’s “welcome to the world of not knowing what the hell is going on). Dudes, if I was stuck on an island, with polar bears, a band of fanatical Others, an evil smoke monster, daily hallucinations, hatches, buttons, and all this other shit, then I’d be saying the same damn thing that Kate did. Not that unusual a bit of dialogue, really.

And I’m out!

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-05 15:29:36

If you notice I didn’t say anything about the whole Hurley/Sawyer thing (except that week ass ending luau). I’ve never minded the comic relief the show has chosen, even when the stuff has been rather groan inspiring. I’m of the mind that comic relief is a necessary part of dramatic shows to help relieve audience tension. It’s a tried & true formula that has its place. I would probably feel better about it if the dramatic part of the show was living up to its end of the bargain though. Honestly, Sawyer & Hurley are the two characters that haven’t changed very much to suit the whims of the writers this season (whether you like those characters to begin with is another story of course). So there- I said somthing positive about Lost, now I’m just going to sit & wait for Big Jim to jump out & holler at me!

Comment by RobbyLove
2007-04-05 15:45:08

Sawyer hasn’t changed much? You’re kidding, right? Have you even watched the show? Sawyer used to be a tough self-centered con-man. Now he’s a whiney metro-sexual who can be tricked by a fat guy with a single word vocabulary. I’ll agree with you that Hurley hasn’t changed. The LOST diet hasn’t helped him one inch.

The show’s writing is so crappy at this point they may as well show a turd floating in a toilet for an hour. It would probably be more entertaining.

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-05 15:58:52

Sawyer was always the “con man with the heart of gold” stereotype my friend. Even when he was hoarding guns or whatever he was hoarding that week, it always ended up with him breaking down & helping (otherwise do you really think he would have let Jack bully him so much the first two seasons? I guess if he was really that tough he just would have shot him). Does somebody whose strictly a “self centered con man” risk his life to try & save Walt? While I agree he hasn’t been as much of a badass this season; I think it’s mostly for lack of having anything to do except hump Kate & eat fish biscuits (and for this I blame the writers).

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Comment by jayfromcleveland
2007-04-05 16:02:15

I may be alone around here, but I thought it was pretty cool to see Smokie again — I’d almost forgotten about him. And it was cool to hear him make the “LOST-zilla” noise after all this time. And the flashes of light — it was almost sorta like a clue to what Locke described when he looked it in the eye. And Juliet admitting that the Others don’t know what it is — wow, that was also almost sorta like a clue.

With everyone grumbling about how a 12 foot fence could keep him in, I wonder how the Dharma crew could have even made the fence in the first place. They musta had “sonic screwdrivers” to aim at Smokie when he attacked.

And what’s up with Jack, Kate, Sayid and Juliet simply walking back to the beach? Didnt Juliet “lock them in” behind the sonic fence? How do they get back out? If you really want to level the playing field with the Others, why not lure Smokie into their little suburb, and then lock him in on their side the fence? Then when they get back, they have a new issue to deal with! Nope, none of these castaways have a brain in their heads.

Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-05 16:09:31

Smokie did add some edge to the episode but the tension was much undermined by Smokey inexplicable inability to cross the sonic fence. Also why would the Others go along with Juliet’s ploy to gain Kate’s trust if they intended to leave her behind. It’s so exhausting to think about all of the inconsistencies and holes in the plot. I’m torn. Do the writers deliberately intend to make their characters so stupid or do they assume the audience is that dumb? Look ma, no brain!

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-05 16:55:09

Yeah, I like that noise it makes- both organic & mechanical. However, the fence stopping it was silly & the visual effects were crap.

2007-04-05 22:03:11

imagine if you will…

a fence that we don’t know much about…

apparently it has an affect on things that pass through it(or at least try)

now imagine some smoke like creature that can move pretty freely through the air & ground.

who’s to say that the fence we don’t know much about doesn’t have the abilitly to prevent the smoke thing that we don’t know much about to pass through it…

those are just 2 more unanswered questions.

all i wanna know is how are they gonna explain the smoke thing…& the damn fence.

jurassic park did a good enough job of explaining the existence of the dinosaur’s but…smoke monster thing?

they need to give the smoke a flash back.

(music fade)

Sawyer lights a cigarette with a match…a puff of smoke wafts into the heavens just as the meteor crashes ino Mr. Cluck’s…the smoke from the match mixes with an alien symbiote attached to the meteor, which attaches itself to peter parker, which he later gets rid of in a church, only to be discovered by eddie brock, which walt reads about in Amazing Spiderman #815, which desmond see’s in the future, which is really the past…& unfortunately though charlie dies(killed by the smoke monster) just before explaining how the fence works, which by the way, he learns from ethan in the season finale, thats hows the flashback of him & clare getting kidnapped…by ethan…

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Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-06 11:28:19

BRAVO!!! Now go straight to Losttheories.com & post that bad boy!

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-05 16:02:33

Nothing much to add. I think I’m getting Lost viewer fatigue. I agree with RobbyLove Re Sawyer’s evisceration as a credible con-man. And I’m with JT on this one. The Hurley/Sawyer stuff added much needed levity to an episode that takes itself much too seriously. There’s nothing like BBQ boar and Dharma beer to bring good cheer and unity to the demoralized. The show is so spectacularly rancid that my intelligence is no longer insulted by such scenes as Kate and Juliet frolicking the mud or the smoke monster inexplicably neutralized by the sound barrier. Come on! Kate re-setting Juliet’s disloquated shoulder: priceless. Sawyer holding Claire’s baby: priceless. The Others putting on gas masks for no good reason under the sun: priceless. The one thing that really burned my ass about this episode was the emasculation of Sayid, to borrow our friend Laurent’s expression. WTF was up with that?!

Sayid to Jack: She is not coming
Jack: yes she is.
Sayid: Why?
Jack: Because she got left behind like us… [or some such nonsense to that effect].
Sayid: [wearing inscrutible expression on his face which might be contempt, anger, puzzlement, docile resignation or a fart]

No wonder Locke got out! It must be really demeaning for the actors who have actual brains to have to utter such drivel.

Comment by Tommyj6168
2007-04-05 21:32:42

I have to admit, that scene you described between Jack and Sayid was funny (although not in the way the writers intended I’m sure). It reminded me of a time when I went golfing with my buddies and one of them wanted to bring his girlfriend along — not to golf, just ride in the golf cart and watch. We were all like “why?” just as Sayid was. The dude gave us a look that said “Do you really need to ask why? Just look at her”. It led to a pretty miserable round of golf with no drinking, swearing, or throwing golf clubs.

 
 
Comment by Carlton Cuse
2007-04-05 17:24:13

um Oh, sorry guys, we actually forgot that the monster could, umm, fly in an Eco episode. Shit Damon it was his idea about, uhm, the barrier y’no. hm i guess we kinda should make an, uhm, explanation. cus they, y’no those kiddies are going shitload us questins. could ya help me with that thing? don’t tell Damon! i suck at writing ,y’no. and you were blaming me for my bad grammar!

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-05 17:44:46

BOOOOO!!! SSSSSSS!!! *throws rotten tomatoes* YOU SUCK!!!

Comment by JT
2007-04-05 19:34:31

That dude’s going to have a heart attack when he realizes he’s not that funny.

 
 
Comment by The Real Carlton
2007-04-05 18:43:55

once again…how dare you. obviously i’m the real carlton. just click the link. it takes you to the official lost site. knock it off already.

Mr. Cuse

Comment by Carlton Cuse
2007-04-06 06:41:03

ahhh you little fuckers, you are so funny really.
you think this show is so stupid yet you think a producer of lost has something clever to say here..
i cracked the shit out of ya.
your just a bunch of idiots who sit here and try to make fun out of nothing and based on nothing. write totally pointless “satiric” dialogues and stupid referencing about real life stereotypes and crap. you obviously just overanalize shit, you watch them playing tennis and you talk about stereotypes with a smart look, where nothing such was intended.
omg that guy knows about a shacky camera technique! oh he is definately smart. its not like anyone on the earth gives a shit about shacky camera.
Instead of trying to be funny think about your arguments towards lost. you really have nothing to say except “LOST SUCKS” you know constantly saying sucks is very amateurish and silly. this is all you can say about an episode if you can’t come up with some really legitimate criticism.

Comment by The Real Carlton
2007-04-06 09:17:30

i like the suggestion at the end…instead of blah blah blah, think about blah blah blah.

using the the word amateurish is silly

i’ll hold him down…you guyz do your worst.

p.s….stop claiming to be me. i’m the real Carlton.

Sincerly
The Real Carlton

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Comment by JT
2007-04-06 11:02:52

Don’t hate me, peeps, but I don’t totally disagree with this guy. But I will admit, “Carlton,” there are (I feel like I type this message every single week) several people here who have voiced very legitimate criticisms of the show.

I’ll also agree, though, that there are people who visit this site and type drivel like “This show officially sucks now” or ” because he said and he would never say that!” or the ever-popular “not a single answer questioned in this episode”! Those complaints suck and are utterly useless and whiny.

As far as the satiric dialogues go and shit like that, yeah, I’ve got to agree that they’re really not useful to this site, and don’t foster any real discussion (sorry if I’m hurting anyone’s feelings — maybe I just have a different sense of humor). I just worry that this site is going to turn into some kind of “LOST SUXORZ!” site.

Also, this one postscript doesn’t really belong in this comment, but people have been talking about how Hurley hasn’t lost any weight. I re-watched this week’s episode, and the dude is clearly thinner than he ever was. It’s pretty obvious.

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Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-06 11:35:07

I agree that the Hurley not losing weight complaint is silly. First off, you’re quite correct: it looks to me like he’s lost about 30 or 40 lbs, which on a man that big just doesn’t look like a whole lot. Secondly, being the “fat gut” is part of Hurley’s character archetype. He wouldn’t be the same character if he suddenly looked like he got gastric bypass surgery. Again, whether or not you like the character is a whole other ball of wax…

 
 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-06 11:38:20

See, I think the fake fan fiction that pops up here is pretty funny. It’s a whacked out version of the crap that shows up on Lost fanboy/girl sights & also parodies sights like Losttheories.com with all their absurd, over-intellectual ideas about the show.

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Comment by David
2007-04-06 19:04:45

my your clever, you should actually write for lost. You definitely fooled us all.

Tool.

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Comment by Evil
2007-04-05 21:18:45

One last thing:

Hurley is now annoying as shit.

Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-09 09:40:42

He’s always been annoying. It’s just that you now have the context to properly evaluate his character. And I’m sorry, but that dude did not lose a single pound. Not that it matters or that I actually care but he is more massive than ever. This is both consistent with the jolly fatty stereotype that he is playing and internally consistent with the fact that there is Dharma food and wild boar a-plenty to be had on the island. Hurley stopped being interesting when they killed off his only chance of ever getting laid… or was it when we found out Cheech was his father?

Comment by Evil
2007-04-09 10:07:33

But remember, ever since the sky turned purple….. Oh, who gives a fuck, maybe they are still dropping cans of spam from parachutes.

Hurley was a nice distraction when there was plot in this show and actual suspense. Now that he is a plot device himself, it’s just stupid.

I’m telling you these writers have some viral marketing firm monitoring the message boards for viewer’s opinions, and try to throw people a bone– and fail of course. They like Hurley, they think, give them more Hurley. People want to see Kate or Sawyer naked, they give you some Kate/Sawyer bearcage action. It’s run just like a Soap Opera “OMG, Tanya please show me the survey results on Jack’s new haircut in episode 31!! Do they want it shorter or longer??” “Viewers loved the Sheriff character and thought she was Evil. GIVE HER 3 FLASHBACKS STAT!”

Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-11 10:30:27

Chuckle. Well put, Evil. My theory is that the writers have simply been pushed out of the creative process altogether because of the unexpected success of the show. Now the show is most definitely “managed” by committee and the writers, assuming there are any left, are mere tools who manufacture plot and assemble dialogue based on the stats, survey results and polls. The irony is that this has wrecked the show.

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2007-04-05 22:22:36

i say…

i dug it.

but why.

probably cuz the last one i saw was expose.

who knows what lock’s up to? good, bad, himself, the losties…the island…we’ll find out. we might not like it but…for now there’s a chance that they’ll do something worth while with it…maybe lock will go on a killing spree & put a dent in the population of the others…time will tell.

who knows what juliet’s up to? juliet does. we’ll find out. in time.

jack & sayid knocked out & back at the village…sure. sayid woke up & did some exploring. understandable. jack didn’t wake up. he was probably crying all night about the fact that lock blew up his sub. maybe we’ll never know.

smoke monster thing…whatever. what the fuck is it? that’s the only reason i watch the damn show. i just wanna know what the hell the smoke monster is. that’s it. answer all the questions you want. that’s the only one i give a shit about. maybe they’ll get to that oneday.

hurley/sawyer/evil eyed sun…simple filler/comic relief/setting up her future episode dealing with her new info about sawyer & charlie…

& the flashbacks…

fuck the flashbacks. i’ve always said fuck the flashbacks. yeah i know. they do this, & they do that… but i don’t give half a shit about this or that…i just wanna know about the smoke monster. PERIOD

basically…expose sucked balls, time will tell, we’ll find out, maybe we’ll never know, maybe they’ll get to that one day, fuck the flashbacks, & what the hell is the smoke monster? QUESTIONMARKEXCLAMATIONMARK?!

Comment by Tyler
2007-04-06 01:13:14

Wow, someone really wants to know about the smoke monster.

2007-04-06 01:32:42

me too!

 
 
 
2007-04-06 01:34:14

I’m…lonely…

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-06 12:59:57

Duuude… what happened to yr face in that one shot? Ouch!!! Did yr old lady smash ya with a fryin’ pan cartoon style?

 
 
Comment by Justin
2007-04-06 03:30:49

BBC is good because you can have 12 episodes in an entire series.

Cable lets you get away with say… 13 episodes per season.

Lost had so much potential and it blew it all.

Also, all the flashbacks are shot on Hawaii too… just made to look like other parts of the world (Africa, Korea, Idaho, etc.)

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-06 11:44:01

I noticed that the shots of “Idaho” looked suspiciously like a sugar cane or pinapple plantation…

Comment by Stickman
2007-04-06 13:27:46

Yeah, the one from this week that made my wife and I laugh (we live on Oahu) was the shots of “Iowa” where they keep all the shots tight so that you couldn’t see the mountains in the background and the Iowa license plate thrown onto the dashboard of the tow truck just to add to the realism.

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-06 13:37:45

Did I say Idaho? I meant Iowa of course… One more time- GIVE ME AN EDIT FEATURE OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!

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Comment by Tyler
2007-04-06 21:55:52

You really are trying to make me work more aren’t you?

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-09 11:06:35

Well, I s’pose so…

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Jack's Sis
2007-04-07 00:24:10

Sawyer puts on a pig roast with unprepared pork. That stuff needs to be hung, chilled and cured properly…

As for what’s left in big plots to be revealed – Sawyer and Hurley are half brothers – Cheech is the father.

Desmond and Charlie are half brothers too. Locke is the father.

And so it goes on and on…

 
Comment by Laurent
2007-04-07 04:43:44

Why has it become obligatory to play Patsy Cline’s “I Go Walking” in scenes with Kate? Why do characters refuse to speak the obvious, or ask the obvious? Kate could have said, “Mom, Billy-Bob tried to rape me!”, but no. They create false tension.

We learned that the smoke beast is shy of the paparazzi, or whoever accosted it with flahbulbs.

Locke has regressed, like every other character, into nonsensical secrecy mode.

They’re taking Juliet back with them despite the fact that Sayid says she has a snuke in her sniz.

Rousseau diappears, abandons them, and that’s all that’s said.

They were eating barbecued pulled-pork sandwiches on fresh baguettes with Dharma A-1 sauce (seriously). Fresh baguettes? From where? Maybe the smoke beast owns a bakery, where it learned to master baguette baking from Rousseau, employed with escaped polar bears.

We learned that Hurley will make a fine parole officer.

Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-08 16:26:49

ha! I think you have a nice way of finding the riduculous and making it seem…riduculous-er.

I think the obligatory patsy cline is the old “small town honky tonk playing on a radio in the diner” cliche. more incredibly unoriginality from whoever the hell writes this crap.

the whole thing gets more ’soapy’ every week, which is fine if that’s what you like. but this doesn’t take place in a hospital/police station, so all the stupid crap that occurs looks worse due to the juxtaposition of the events (ridiculous) and the location (secret island).

btw, read a nice review about ‘the shield’, something to the effect that it, unlike many drama tv shows, features nearly every character every episode or circles back to them with rare regularity. total opposite of LOST that has so many characters, many of them get barely 60 minutes of screen time during an entire 24 episode season (or they’re shelved for dozens of episodes). seems like a weird model for a ‘character driven’ show as LOST claims to be.

Comment by Laurent
2007-04-08 18:54:57

I think that the soap factor has been induced in ‘Lost’ due to the popularity of such horrible TV as ‘Gay’s Anatomy’ (love triangles and love octagons). I watched that absurd and despicable show once, and I wanted to cry. It’s absolutely repellent. I couldn’t believe that audience intelligence fell to a new low.

I saw that they added new Shield episodes to iTunes, but it’s season 6. They have yet to add season 4.
I really enjoyed that show, but am holding out for season 4.

Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-08 20:03:56

yah, well, I don’t watch ‘greys’, and I’m not trying to sell you further on ‘the shield’, my point (and I think I had one) was more to illustrate again how this show fails in fundamental ways.

the fact that michael and walt, whose story lines were at the core of season 1 when most people (us included…??) were hooked on the show (characters AND mysteries), have been AWOL for…a dozen episodes ?…seems like a real stretch.

it’s a stretch to assume your audience will remember, let alone care about, those characters if/when they’re reintroduced. and if they AREN’T brought back…well, that’s another handful of wasted episodes giving us backstory that will never be fulfilled.

just dumb.

like Turkey (?) said previously, I’m getting fatigued by it all also. my expectations are so low…apathy is setting in. shouldn’t be too many more episodes before I stop watching…stop posting…and become one of the many former fans who’ve tuned out.

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Comment by Laurent
2007-04-09 05:26:10

Like Sopranos. Who really cares anymore? They take 1-2 years off between seasons, and you just don’t care anymore. That show expects you to remember after not watching for 2 years. That show became progressively worse and has too many loose ends. I stopped watching.
Lost is becoming what everyone thought it wasn’t: just some more TV.

 
Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-09 09:50:32

I thought you didn’t watch that show? [Diabolical laughter ensues]. And dare I confess that I have watched Grey’s Anatomy on occasion and actually enjoyed it. Yes, enjoyed it. The characters and plot may be nauseatingly over-the-top but the acting and writing are more consistent and better than in Lost. It’s ER with a brain and maudlin musical soundtrack to underscore the inner turmoil of the characters. But gosh darnit, it works. On another note, I’ve been meaning to rent the Shield to see what it’s about. I used to love NYPD Blue when it first came out before it turned to shite. Also a huge fan of Deadwood, which puts the Sopranos to shame, and I think the best dramatic series I have ever watched on TV – ever.

 
Comment by Laurent
2007-04-09 10:25:36

I stopped watching ‘Sopranos’ two seasons ago… I think. The season finale when they arrest the NY mob don in the snow? That season was it. Good riddance.

I watched ‘Gay’s Anatomy’ after the fervent exhortations to do so from some nice, yet simpleminded, friends and family members.
I had the displeasure of watching a “special” episode where a missile exploded in special guest star Cristina Ricci’s patient (why couldn’t she be chained to the gurney in her négligée like that crappy movie she’s presently in?) killing a few firefighters. Next scene, Dr. Black Gaybasher and Dr. Ronald Miller exit an elevator, where in TV premonition land, all the other characters knew they would be exiting that elevator and gave them a round of applause. I was livid. That show is nothing but an example of mawkish hackwork pulling at the heartstrings of the numbed-by-TV middleclass. Their spouses sit next to them eating bags of salty snacks while going sexually and emotionally unfulfilled, yet they cry when Cristina Ricci’s missile blows up a cliché fireman hero. Thus, I am not a watcher per se, but I have watched it.
It has now infected Europe, and many friends and family here have been exposed, and many have succumbed.
As for ‘Lost’, maybe if they all start sleeping with each other, and someone cries each episode it can approach Gay’s.

 
Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-09 10:50:05

Laurent: “nothing but an example of mawkish hackwork pulling at the heartstrings of the numbed-by-TV middleclass”. Ah yes, but they do it so well. ER à la puissance 10. Perhaps I enjoy it because it manages to engage me emotionally while simultaneously allowing me to feel superior. I must admit that the episode where they manage to revive Grey after several hours was more than even I could bare and I stopped watching after that. The pseudo-purgatory ghost-hospital (all bathed in a soft light) where she encounters the dead, including said stereotypical fireman and a girl who insists on bleeding from her abdomen simply exceeded my tolerance threshold for American television cliché and melodrama. I had to end the relationship. Even I have my limits.

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-09 13:10:58

Grey’s Anatomy is crap! The “Gay Lillith Fair Music” (as I’ve coined it) they play during all the dramatic scenes is the worst. ER was better in its prime, but neither can hold a candle to St. Elsewhere.

 
Comment by JT
2007-04-09 13:29:50

“Grey’s Anatomy is crap!”

Amen to that.

 
Comment by Laurent
2007-04-09 13:33:27

It’s TV pandering to the Emo set. I’ll watch when Dashboard Confessional Guy is wheeled in with a shotgun blast to his face.
But why must I be turned towards hate? Many people seem to enjoy Emo TV and music, no? But alas, this is what angers me, the fact that such music and TV can turn me into a hater.
Oh well, as Oscar Wilde said, “Life’s too important to be taken seriously.”

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-09 13:39:42

Hmmm… when it comes to Oscar Wilde quotes I prefer: “Anything worth doing is worth doing in excess”. That’s just me of course. Still, any time an O.W. quote gets dropped it makes me smile…

 
Comment by Laurent
2007-04-09 14:50:42

As for the Skeptic’s original post, you can’t tune out and abandon the Whylostsucks.com island. Don’t leave us for the real world.
You must stay and serve your viewing penance for the enjoyment in reading and posting in this forum, which is a far more enjoying than simply watching the program, and slightly more enjoying than not having watched at all.

 
Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-09 16:30:38

I second that motion. Skeptic, you have a solemn duty, ney, a moral obligation to keep watching and to continue to contribute to this seething forum of contempt for the show. We need the heeling balm of your inexhaustible venom. I no longer have any expectation that this show will ever rise above the steaming turd that it has become but I have high hopes that this week’s episode will at least offer more kindling for our collective scorn. There was simply not much to chew on last week.

 
Comment by JT
2007-04-09 16:37:08

“There was simply not much to chew on last week.”

And I just gotta chime in and say that I take this to mean “there wasn’t much to complain about last week.” Isn’t that a good thing? I mean, don’t get me wrong, I comprehend all of the issues that have been brought to the forefront here, but shouldn’t you guys be happy that Lost doesn’t suck so much anymore?

 
Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-09 16:47:43

No, my friend, you misunderstand me. There was plenty to complain about in last week’s episode. It’s just that the show was so exhaustively rancid in its every minute detail, that I personally was left virtually speechless. An almost impossible proposition, as I’m sure you will have surmised by my multiple posts. More than ever before, Lost still sucks donkey cocks. If you will excuse the crude imagery, I think that many of us are merely limp with exhaustion at the thought of cataloguing its many flaws.

 
Comment by JT
2007-04-09 17:05:38

Ah, gotcha. Clarified.

I feel so very very lonely.

 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-10 15:16:23

“Perhaps I enjoy it because it manages to engage me emotionally while simultaneously allowing me to feel superior.”

ha! excellent.

hey, I may posture like I’m not goint to watch, but come tomorrow night, I’m sure I’ll switch on ABC and endure another episode. I think you’re right about the shredding of LOST is becoming more fun than the watching of LOST.

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-10 16:04:32

Well, making fun of how much awful it’s become is the only thing that has kept my fiancee and I from having a very unpleasant skirmish for control of the clicker. Come next season though- she better watch in the bedroom, ’cause I don’t know how much more I can take.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-10 15:34:59

“snuke in her snizz”, nice- I just caught that. Maybe that explains the sour look she’s always wearing. Don’t imagine it’s very comfortable to have that thing wedged up there.

Comment by Laurent
2007-04-10 18:45:00

Yes, but not as uncomfortable as having your twig & berries stuffed in a pickle jar and ket under the sink like Sayid and Jin. What happened to those two? I think I saw Jin sewing lil’ booties to bind his babie’s feet with last episode. He has gone from sexually inhibited henchman to expecting daddy, either that, or he has finally reconciled his humble fisherman past… now that he’s found the honor in it (feeding Hurley).
Sayid, however, has gone off the rails. I’m waiting for the explanatory flashback where a hooded Sayid in Abu Ghraib is being forced to play naked twister by a butchy looking broad known as the Sheriff.

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-10 19:06:27

Heh, heh… maybe that was Sayid under that hood- it would explain a lot. You know, talking about Jin makes me realize something: I really liked the character arc that they set up for him in seasons 1 & 2. The acting was nice, and you really saw him go from being ashamed of what he was, to trying to be something he most certainly wasn’t, back to his center again. That is the kind of well thought out arc that TV characters are rarely afforded. The problem though, is that now that we have seen his character come full circle (as we have seen many of the survivors do) all that’s left is a conclusion to the story. Something that is still a season or two full of filler away from happening.

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Comment by Laurent
2007-04-10 19:56:00

Yeah, I really liked the characters of Jin and Sun as well, and the fact that they didn’t speak English was a nice touch (I can hear the network execs, “Wha-wha-what? We’re going to have subtitles?”)
It seems that Jin had all this pent-up aggresssion with his inability to display his virility through baby-making, and now that Sun has a bun, he’s content. However, like you mentioned, now what? I suppose his angst will be rekindled when he learns the very man whom he had spared, was teaching Sun body English.
Actually, I read on another site about this planned episode, titled, ‘Sun-burn’, or ‘Sun-blocked’ (a cheeky play on c*&k-blocked). ;-)

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-11 12:39:43

Cheeky indeed!

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Jerome
2007-04-07 14:41:31

this episode totally sucked and it was an obvious filler with no point. but what really bothers me that they’ve been on the island for 3 months and Hurley hasn’t lost any weight at all

Comment by Evil
2007-04-09 09:56:42

He’s eating members of the Tail Section.

 
Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-09 09:57:35

This ground has been covered at length, my friend and many have shared their views and theories on this question in painful and eloborate detail. See discussion above. Some say that the dude has lost about 40lbs, while others (such as myself) believe that he has lost naught a stone. Which ever side of this compelling debate you find yourself on, it does not really matter because Hurley and the other survivors have hardly experienced hardship since crash-landing on the island. There is an abundant and apparently unlimited supply of Dharma victuals. Not to mention the fish and wild boar. And when that is exhausted, they can always dig up Paulo and Nikki and roast them on spit. Mmm mmm, finger lickin’ good.

Comment by Evil
2007-04-09 19:45:30

Ewww, roasted Paulo? I don’t like Italian– or Brazillian– or whatever non-descript ethnicity that accent represents.

 
 
 
Comment by benjamin
2007-04-07 19:10:06

everyone always complains that the heroes don’t ask questions during times when they are able to. such as when talking to an other. I agree with this criticsm but this device to create artificial tension seems to be a staple of the majority of indie movies. as a counterpoint, the show south park seems to always accurately portray peoples surprise etc.

Comment by Laurent
2007-04-08 19:21:12

The thing is, they waste my time with a Kate flashback where she is trying to explain to her mother why she killed her hillbilly lover, and why her mother should be on her side rather than the law’s. She tells her mom that she was trying to protect her (her mom), but we all know that to trigger a mother’s compassion, her reptillian reflex, one only has to tug at that parent-offspring connection, the one so enthusiatlucly espoused by the brillaint Clotaire Rapaille. Kate only had to tell her mother that the hillbilly had tried to rape her, or maybe, he had raped her repeatedly, bu no, she just cries in a bathroom stall. She risked all this but to not tell the truth… is completely unbelieveable. Somethings in this show, a fantasy must be unbelievable, but not everything, and eveything in this show IS COMPLETELY UNBELIEVABLE!

Comment by Evil
2007-04-09 09:55:54

OMG yeah, I totally forgot Kate was raped by that dude and I wondered if I were missing something in that whole worthless Mom scene.

Why did you kill him? I was thinking– um, he was a sexual predator!!!??? Wasn’t he? Does that warrant being blown up?

How fuckin’ stupid that she didn’t say that. I mean how outside of human nature would it not be to tell her. Like, I’ve heard of people keeping it a secret, but that usually goes away ONCE YOU’VE KILLED THE PERPETRATOR. Instead they just made it look like she wanted the fuckin insurance money.

Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-09 10:11:18

I did not know that Kate had been raped by her step-father but suspected as much. Fairly predictable, I suppose. But even without knowing this, I found that scene with her mother ridiculous. Also, does anyone else feel that an excessive amount of people-power and government resources are thrown into catching Kate? I don’t remember whether she had killed that federal agent, which I suppose, would explain it.

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Comment by Laurent
2007-04-09 14:37:13

I agree with the police resources being channeled to her case. Seems superfluous for another redneck domestic affair. Next flashback we’re going to see Kate’s mother’s home covered in a bubble with a legion of police in hazmat suits milling about. She’ll escape by pedaling over them on her bike with the smoke monster bundled in a blanket in the front basket. That way we can also learn how the smoke monster is connected to a principle cast member in the J.J. era zeitgeist for 6 degrees.

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-10 11:56:31

Did she kill an agent? I thought the only one who died was the guy on the plane, and that wasn’t her fault. Yes, it seems a bit over the top to have Fed’s looking that hard for her. Unless… it’s part of a vast Dharma (TM) conspiracy to get her on the island so she could whore it up with the fellas…

 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-10 14:50:19

well, props for the ET reference…I’m sure they’ll rip that off soon enough too. hurley gives some of his M & M’s, er…reces pieces to the altitudinally challenged smoke thing who then heals hurley’s broken heart with a glowing finger.

sounds kind of gross actually.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by BigJim
2007-04-08 23:24:12

I know we have been over this before, but I really must state the following: LOST SUCKS!
Season One was excellent, but started to die towards the end (began to see the writing on the wall when they dragged the hatch storyline out).
Season Two: well, wait a minute. I can’t honestly remember what happened during season two…so it must have sucked.
Season Three: I have watched about half of the eps and I can honestly say that the show is worse than just sucking. It is almost a non-entity. I mean really, it is a waste of time to even point to specific examples of why the show “sucks.” It is just an all around bad television program. It sucks inherently.
Having said that, the ep about nikki and the ep about kate back-to-back were some of the most shittiest tv I have ever seen. It made me wonder: “I know I don’t care about this, but does anyone?”
*uck Lost*

 
Comment by BigJim
2007-04-08 23:28:20

P.S.
The storyline with Locke and his dad which was in the march 20something ep will next be visited on may 2 (according to the producers).
Has anyone ever seen a tv program run with such a high level of incompetence?

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-09 11:12:02

A visit from Big Jim is always like a breath of rank, very angry air. The sad thing is: as the weeks of season 3 trudge on, I get closer & closer to completely agreeing with his position…

Comment by BigJim
2007-04-10 10:09:45

smile

 
 
 
Comment by Ann Pate
2007-04-09 15:18:19

The writers are yanking your chains and laughing their way to the bank. “Lost” lost me as a viewer after that episode in Season 2 where Hurley kept on seeing mysterious Dave popping up everywhere and then the show ended with Hurley sitting in a catatonic state in a mental hospital’s television lounge with his blond “love interest sitting there in a vegetative state as well.

Here’s my prediction for how the show will finally end: it’s all in Hurley’s head. He actually is a mental patient.

Just as in the real world, fat, dumpy looking guys may not have much of a real life, but they sure do have a fecund imagination! LOL

Comment by Just Rancid Turkey
2007-04-09 16:40:26

Ah yes, the “it’s all in Hurley’s head” theory. Almost surpassed in originality and popularity by the “it’s a eutopic society with special powers of selection which enables said society to capture the elements/individuals that it requires to make it complete” theory. Personally, I prefer the latter. Even by the non-existent logic of the show, “the manufactured world of the madman” theory simply does not “work” on a number of levels. Whatever it turns out to be, the big “reveal” about why they are on the island is certain to disappoint even the most rabbid fan-tool.

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-10 11:52:26

You mean like that p.o.s. movie Identity? They might as well pull a mask off the polar bear & have it be Libby going: “I would’ve got away with it, if it wasn’t for you meddling kids (shaking fist)”. I’ve heard this theory before & quite frankly the much lambasted “purgatory theory” makes more sense (even though the creators have sworn up & down it’s not true). My theory is: there is no theory, they are clearly working off the barest of outlines (at best).

 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-10 13:38:25

hey, not that I’m a believer in the ‘hurley’s head’ theory, but the LOST people have insisted since the beginning that everything can be explained “scientifically”.

and what better escape for all the stupid crap than to say “sike! it’s all his imagination!”

how can you disprove an imagined world??? so…I’m not betting against this one even though it’s cliche and unoriginal. this show has shown it’s not above lifting material from other places, I don’t think originality is high on their list of priorities.

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-10 13:45:28

I wouldn’t be shocked either, but my bet is on some kind of stew of Buddhism, Judeo-Christian concepts of forgiveness & some magic mushrooms…

Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-10 14:26:34

you’re making me puke…and it’s not the ’shrooms!

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Comment by Stickman
2007-04-11 02:00:01

Also, if you try to float the Hurley’s head theory (or anything similar) on Losttheories.com you get pig piled by “THE WRITERS HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER THAT THE EVENTS ON THE ISLAND ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING AND NOT PART OF ANYONE’S IMAGINATION!!!!”

Okay lame dorks…take a chill pill…I don’t know why I was stupid enough to type losttheories.com into my browser to begin with.

I still haven’t gotten back over there to read the response to the flame theory. should be good for a few laughs.

I’m still convinced, as someone said a few weeks ago, that the original concept was some variation of the purgatory theme and people figured it out too early so the writers diverged onto this road to nowhere and don’t know how to get off of it.

 
 
 
Comment by Tyler
2007-04-11 14:24:03

Someone posted this on the FAQ comments. Pure comic gold! It may have been posted before but I have not seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRp8N5jS3R4

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-11 14:58:21

I mentioned this last week, but it’s SO worth posting again!! If anybody has yet to check this out, do yourself a favor & watch it right now! It pretty much sums up all of our collective complaints about the shows crappy writing as of late.

 
 
Comment by Evil
2007-04-11 15:48:20

I’m detecting a particularly crappy episode of “Lost” tonight in which Doctor Botox is all persecuted by the people she tortured/shot/beat up/child stole/brainwashed and yet the Episode will somehoe try to make her human and likeable.

VOMIT.

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-11 16:33:45

No doubt… I personally would be wearing a necklace made out of Other ears, but that’s just me. According to EW’s preview (wherein the reviewer has already seen the ep. but can’t really divulge details) this would be one the “20 essential episodes of Lost” or something like that. We are supposedly going to find out not only how Juliet came to be on the island, but what her fertility research has to do with the Others plans. Well, call me skeptical but I’ll believe it when I see it. Even if that information is 100% true, I’m sure it will still set up more questions that it will resolve.

 
Comment by TheLostSkeptic
2007-04-11 18:37:34

it’s all ground we’ve covered, isn’t it? from the previews, which are admittely very light on substance…moreso than the show itself…it seems juliet is not trusted by the rest of the losties. shocker!!! and jack, for whatever reason, stands up for her and says something to the effect of “you trust her b/c I trust her”.

well…shit. why do any of them trust jack anymore?

 
 
Comment by MIke
2007-04-11 16:41:58

Not only have I stopped watching but I am actaully really pissed off. The amazingly pointless episode where the two got buried alive was it for me. If I ever get to meet any writers I think I am going to take a swing at them.

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-04-11 19:53:37

So we sit and wait like condemned men about to stick their heads through the noose…

Just over 2 hours ’til LOST time here in The Chi (as in Chi-town beyotches! West Siiiiide! – oops… sorry) & I never know how to feel these days. The tiny part of me that has been waiting for the show to turn around is slowly (& painfully) dying week by awful week. *sigh* Maybe I should pull a Tyler & get cocktailed during the show? Yeah, I bet that’ll help!

 
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