The Isle of Super Sperm
My random thoughts on tonite’s episode.
How can they drop that bombshell of the super sperm and just leave us hanging? Oh man, the mind reels with the possibilities! All we can hope for is that this super sperm revelation somehow ties up all the major questions of the show.
Who thinks watching a chick get an ultrasound is riveting television? Are they going after the Oprah demographic now? Next up, Kate gets a pap smear.
OK, so the only character on the show that has any balls left is Jin. Sun started out showing some backbone by calling out Jack and finally asking the Dr. Other wtf is going on. But then she kind of killed it with the estrogen sob fest in the death lab. But Jin is definitely not taking shit from anyone. It was pretty sweet seeing him take off after patchy and take him out kung fu style. Twice no less. You go Jin!
This lame trick of killing people off, then bringing them back just plain sucks. Perhaps I should add it as #11 on the why lost sucks list.
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About the only positive thing I can say about the Sun flashback is that it featured Asian actors I haven’t seen since M*A*S*H (okay some of them were also in “Big Trouble in Little China”). And I don’t think I have read so many subtitles since being forced to suffer through “The Passion of the Christ”. Another fun pastime in Jin/Sun flashbacks is counting the number of Asian stereotypes — “Asian family honor” — check; “money grubbing extortionist” — check; “seedy businessman with a safe full of cash” — check.
Too bad Patchy isn’t more familiar with Asian stereotypes. Trying to outrun a Korean (known for being great distance runners) and, upon being caught, trying to outfight an Asian martial arts master were dumb mistakes on his part. Patchy needs to watch spend more time in his monitoring station watching American movies and television to bone up on the things at which Hollywood has decided Asians excel.
At the beginning, when Sun confronted Juliet, I was desperately hoping that Sun would punch Juliet’s permanently smirking Planet of the Apes face (if for no other reason than to find out whether it was possible to wipe the smirk off).
I agree that it is exceedingly frustrating that characters never seem to die. It is rumored that Nikki and Mrs. Klugh aren’t really dead and, after Patchy’s resurrection, that seems more than likely. It’s making it more and more like a soap opera.
Another confusing thing: the parachutist was carrying a book written in Portuguese, spoke to Hurley in Spanish, and uttered something to Patchy in Italian — does she speak Swahili too??? After the “shocking” ending, I reconsider my earlier post about Bierce’s “Incident at Owl Creek Bridge”. It seems this is a likely explanation for the events on the island (also see the movie “Jacob’s Ladder”).
which means the final episode will show them dying in the original plane crash…?
I didn’t think it was a shocker at all. given what we’ve seen about the resources of dharma et al, my immediate thought is someone planted a plane crash in the middle of the pacific, burned some random bodies beyond recognition (plot point stolen from ‘Fletch’), and for whatever reason convinced everyone that flight 815 crashed and burned. ridiculous? sure. confused? you won’t be…after the next episode of LOST!
I’ve been checking this site all season and never felt compelled to comment before…but I have to say kudos to the “Fletch” theory. Maybe Chevy Chase will roll out of the magic box, do an undercover story about the others, and bust this mysterious case wide open
I only watched little more than half, but from what I saw…
nothing too ridiculous happened…
nothing interesting happened…
nothing creepy Ben happened…
nothing sexy happened…
nothing ‘ping pong’ happened…
nothing funny happened…
nothing monster, or polar bear, or dharma shark happened…
nothing dead happened…
something resurrection happened…??
did I miss anything? all this makes me think I’m nearing my limit for ridiculing LOST (my time for enjoying the show is long gone). but if I don’t find the kung-fu asian man stereotype ‘too ridiculous’, or the risen from the dead russian very surprising…then my expectations for the show must run so low that apathy has truly set in. as I think about it, I didn’t care about a single character last night…in fact, the list of ‘characters that annoy me’ grows weekly. hurley made the list last night after a string of “dude, she’s dying” and “dude, do something” (he’d be less annoying if he said “dude, I’m hungry…can I eat the hobbit?”)
All I can say is that people are people so why should it be, dudes are never as sexy as babie(s).
well that explains the russian resurrection…he’s his own personal jesus…
I think they all died and they’re gonna keep getting reincarnated until they realize that everything counts and once they get the balance right, they finally get to die. Then they can finally shake the disease of having to live a new life over and over. It’s just a question of time….
to be sure, it’s a strangelove that keeps us watching a show with few answers. for a while, i just couldn’t get enough. now I just hope the show will never let me down again.
alas, someday, soon perhaps, ABC will pull the plug and we’ll enjoy the silence.
You say that like you believe it, my friend.
What a waste. All that sperm and so little hanky-panky.
FIVE flash backs to find out that Jin’s mommy is a blackmailing ‘Ho. Does that have ANYTHING to do with the plot?
And we find out that one of the few things that did happen in the last few epi’s (Locke kills eyepatch guy) didn’t happen.
Add me to the list that typed “lost sucks” in the google box…..
welcome
Tommyj6168, per your Asian stereotypes list, you forgot: kind-hearted humble fisherman living in hovel and mandatory serving the tea to guest.
Tyler, I have to call you on your contradictory post. On the one hand, you appear to acknowledge that the episode was actually pretty interesting and then on the other, you conclude that Lost sucks for bringing people back from the dead. Grudging praise indeed. Did you like the daggan episode or not, brotha? Which is it.
Come on guys! This was the best epi in a long time. I’m with you, Tommy6168 — Juliet’s botoxed smugness just burns my ass. And Jin is emerging as the undisputed stud of the island. That choke hold was lovely. Although, I actually like patchy. The whole sinister slavic communist era angle might be a tad cliché but he’s always interesting to watch. I thought his brains had exploded. Whatever.
And what about that ending! Most of the plane wreckage exploded or is on the island. There is no way that they can come up for a plausible explanation to that unless they are advancing some kind of parallel universe theory. I’m so very tired.
Okay, time for my trivial details list:
(1) a humble fisherman living a hovel would not have perfect teeth;
(2) any competent doctor and certainly a fertility specialist (no less) would not inquire about the last sexual encounter to determine the date of conception but rather the first day of the last period and then work backwards from that date; — I realize that this was a convenient plot device to introduce the topic of Sun’s infidelity… but still;
(3) Did anyone notice that when Sun started chasing after Patchy, they suddenly found themselves back near the injured chick when Patchy was caught? WTF?
(4) The injured chick’s make up looked fabulous. Nuff said.
(5) Why was Jin’s father’s desk sitting in the middle of a lobby? and finally,
(6) Can’t they do something about the Hobbit’s nose? It frightens me.
I think you’ve mixed Sun (wife) with Jin (husband).
Whatever… Don’t you have any scintillating wisdom to share about boobs today?
Heh, heh… that was nice & cranky! Did you forget to eat your Wheaties this morning?
Actually a humble fisherman living in a hovel might have some pretty decent teeth. Seafood is high in calcium (great for enamel), protein (good for the gums) & vitamin E (also good for gum health). They probably wouldn’t be that white (I don’t think my teeth are THAT white), but otherwise it IS a stereotype to think that poor Asian people all have bad teeth.
How many humble fishermen do you know with a Colgate smile? My remark had nothing to do with Asian people (not even a hint of that in my statement) but rather the bad teeth of the extremely poor. And lest you get confused again, I am not even talking about dental hygiene. There are many natural ways to keep teeth clean even among the very poor. But you fail to make a distinction between nutrition and the consequent condition of his teeth on the one hand (diet probably supports good bone density and enamel) and the actual appearence of his teeth on the other (probably never saw a dentist and there was probably no colgate or whitening strips in his hovel). Have you ever been to England? Of course, this is less true now than it was a 20 years ago when they had yet to discover orthodontics… or dentists (see Austin Powers). Are we really having a debate about teeth, dude?
I guess we are, but I certainly didn’t mean to imply any racial bias on your part. Here’s my final word on the subject: I was in the Phillipines a few years back & everybody there (at least in the villages) lived in a type of poverty almost unimaginable to you or I. Amazingly, almost every single person I ran into except the very elderly or heavy smokers had a perfect set of pearly white choppers. It was partly genetics & mostly a diet of very natural foods. That is all…
Oh Christ. Now, I almost feel compelled to talk about my extensive field research in the Amazon and my years in the Peace Corp in Angola. But I’m bigger than that. Okay, even if it is possible that Jin’s poor fisherman father has fabulous teeth, you’ve gotta agree that they would never ever show bad teeth on network tv. If entire countries (i.e. Korea) are sanitized, why not people’s teeth? They simply can’t take that kind of risk and potentially turn off their squeamish North American audience.
Well that I can agree with 100%, I mean every actor in Hollywood has capped teeth & their’s weren’t bad to begin with.
Take this into consideration though: when the medical industry uses real human skeletons they almost always come from India. One of the major reasons: they have near perfect teeth. How do you explain that in one of the poorest countries in the world? OK, I’m really playing Devil’s Advocate know Turk. I was satisfied once you said it wasn’t an “Asian thing”.
On the totally useless info front- in Guinea West Africa the people use sticks to clean their teeth.
Oh yeah and tonights was just another ho hum epi. I feel like Lost is a novel that started off great but starts to suck but you have so much time invested that you want to finish it. Doesn’t mean I have to like it.
Any Crest fans out there?
As far as the parallel universe idea goes maybe it’s a tangental universe like in Donnie Darko? If you’ve never seen Donnie Darko before, do yourself a favor & check it out TODAY! It is a fantastic, weird movie that actually puts forward some ideas that could explain some of the odd things that happen in Lost.
Yeah, I agree. Donnie Darko’s one of my all-time favorite movies (haven’t seen the director’s cut yet though).
The DC is worth seeing for sure. It goes into a much deeper explanation about the book that “Grandma Death” wrote about time travel. Oddly enough there are some pretty freaky parallels to Lost.
Donnie Darko is excellent.. and the sound track is awesome.
Yeah, the part in the movie when Mad World comes on still sends shivers down my spine & I’ve watched that movie at least a hundred times.
I always dug the opening track that played when Donnie was riding his bike home. An Echo and the Bunnymen tune, correct?
Yes, although on the DC it is replaced by a INXS doing Never Tear Us Apart. The Echo & the Bunnymen tune comes in during the party instead.
Of course jin’s the stud; his balls are workin again!
I did catch one major “reveal” that made me go EYEROLL. At one point, Dr. Botox said that Kate (Austin?) was pregnant. Is that true? And is it Sawyer’s or Jack’s!!!!!!!!! VOMIT.
BUT THEY FOUND THE RECKAGE OF 815: THEY WERE ALL DDDDDDEAD! dun dun DAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Okay, so we are supposed to believe that the others are so mundane as to need to google people to figure out what their backgrounds are, yet sophisticated enough to be able to plant plane reckage and bodies IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACIFIC OCEAN?
I really think, this is it for me. The satellite phone that didn’t work and the letting-patchy-just-walk-away were so predictably retarded that this entire island should get Darwin Awards. I love how characters protest at first “NO WE HAVE TO KEEP HIM REMEMBER THESE PEOPLE LIKE TO KIDNAP US AND BEAT US AND SHOOT US??” only, 4 seconds later, to resign all protest when someone says something cryptic like “This is the way it has to be” or “the island will decide.”
When they get around to being smart enough to, say, RECHARGE the phone in one of the many POWERED HATCHES on the island or using Sayid-ala-radio-shack to sup’ something up, it will be just in time for Patchy to tell the others who will return to hood some people and steal the phone back.
Speaking of which, given the fact of airconditioned, book-clubbed TOWNS that exist on the other side of the island, one would expect that they might migrate over there at this point. But then again, the island is showing a notorious Non-cartesian quality in that it sometimes takes 4 days, sometimes 1, to reach specific points, and the ALL OF THEM SEEMINGLY REQUIRE TO WALK THROUGH THEJUNGLE, which is amply provided, apparently, with machetes.
resign all protest when someone says something cryptic like “This is the way it has to be” or “the island will decide.”…
or “she’s under my protection now”
>>Speaking of which, given the fact of airconditioned, book-clubbed TOWNS that exist on the other side of the island, one would expect that they might migrate over there at this point. But then again, the island is showing a notorious Non-cartesian quality in that it sometimes takes 4 days, sometimes 1, to reach specific points, and the ALL OF THEM SEEMINGLY REQUIRE TO WALK THROUGH THEJUNGLE, which is amply provided, apparently, with machetes
Brilliant!
Decent episode. Far from great, and the flashbacks bored the living Christ out of me. I was spoiled for the Mikhail reveal and obviously the ending, but I gotta say I think it was pretty well-executed. The survivors clearly aren’t in purgatory — it’s either a cover-up or some kind of time-wrap thing.
As far as the Korean stereotypes go and all that, it’s not really fair for us to attack those: I think I’d probably be correct in saying that not a single member of the WhyLostSucks community has any knowledge of Korean culture, so maybe all Koreans are trained in martial arts. Who knows? I’m too lazy to research it, so if anyone else does, feel free to post about it.
Were some of those actors seriously in Big Trouble in Little China? Because that movie kicked so much ass that it isn’t even funny. So did Jacob’s Ladder. And it is kind of interesting that Tommy mentioned Owl Creek before — are you really Carlton Cuse, dude?
For all the Charlie haters out there, come on — you gotta admit that he was sort of badass in this episode. And I was quite fond of the line “We have got to stop letting these people go!”
I usually lurk but had to come out and say something about your post because I do have experience with Korean culture. My wife is Korean (not Korean-American but Korean) and I lived in Seoul for three years. I can speak Korean and can tell you that JIn’s LA korean accent really gets on my nerves.
Lost’s portrayal of the Korean community was one of the reasons I gave up on the show - the first Korean flashback show made me grind my teeth. First, Korea is a concrete covered, industrial wasteland that has little to no green. Those beautiful outdoor shots (obviously done in Hawaii) were as far from reality as one can get. On top of that, no Korean man would ever be hired as a doorman. If he was truly poor, he would have been a cab driver. College student? Maybe. Beautiful girl (in a mini skirt)? Most likely. And, he certainly wouldn’t have gotten fired for letting the poor man and his son in to use the bath room. Koreans don’t act that way. They would have pretended that they didn’t notice the poor people because they didn’t have enough money to be seen.
And Koreans, when they do learn a martial art, learn Tae Kwon Do. And, not everyone learns it.
I’m surprised that no one has thought that this resurrection stuff explains how Charlie survived being hung in the first season.
And does anyone else think the big “game changing” moment the producers promised was kind of lame? When I think of game changing, I think take everything you know and throw it in the garbage. This didn’t seem like a big deal.
I agree that many of the scenes that supposedly took place in Korea were totally off. I still think that Jin & Sun’s back story contains some of the best acting we’ve seen in the show. And yes, Yunjin Kim’s English is far better than Daniel Dae Kim’s Korean.
Totally agree with you that acting blows everyone else out of the water. Daniel Dae Kim and Yunjin Kim deserve much better material than they have been given.
Still, if the Lost producers had hired Lee Yeon-Ae to be on this show instead of Yunjin, I would still be watching every episode and I wouldn’t care how crappy it got.
I’ll second that motion!
I spent a year in Kunsan, and I’ll say you obviously didn’t travel around Korea much. There are many lush, green fields in Korea, and only in the big cities, ie Seoul, is it a “concrete covered, industrial wasteland.” They obviously can’t film in Korea (I guess they could but that would blow the budget) so they choose Korean “looking” sites. Granted, Hawaii is much more scenic, but I went to many beautiful sites in Korea in my year there.
I actually did spend quite a bit of time outside of the city and I know of the green fields you speak of. I was really refering to the cities since that is where the Lost episodes have been set and the cities are not green at all.
The countryside is also very different from what is depicted in the show. For obvious reasons, the budget constraints of the show, they couldn’t capture the mountainous, rocky, pine tree covered, dutiness of South Korea. It’s a cool country for sure, but no one is ever going to accuse it of being beautiful.
Plus the flora and fauna of Korean and Hawaii are completely different, unless you go to Jeju Island.
One more thing: it didn’t look exactly like Tae Kwon Do that Jin was using against Patchy. Looked more like the type of close quarters combat they teach in the military, which makes perfect sense.
“Next up, Kate gets a pap smear. ”
I read that line while drinking coffee, you almost made liquid come out my nose.
Great work Tyler.
Let me start by saying, it’s not an Asian stereotype that Jin would know self defense. Military service is compulsory in S. Korea, a fact made evident in the episode by Jin & Sun’s conversation about his being in the Army & the pic of Jin in uniform in the father’s house. Let me also say that the Daniel Dae Kim & Yunjin Kim continue to shine compared to the other actors on the show. Jin’s back story has always been the most compelling to me (again, a complete character arc is so rare in TV) so it wasn’t to bad to revisit it in some form. Having said that, it was most definately a revisiting & showed us nothing we didn’t really already know.
As for the rest: When Hurley accidently shot the flare, I said “oops” before he did- just pathetic writing. The return of Patchy was expected, and not completely unpleasant but- why on earth wouldn’t you hog tie him & carry him back to the beach? We saw that Jin could best him in physical combat, so why not be the ones to TAKE a prisoner for once? The parachutist chick is ridiculous, the perfect make up with just a couple of dirt smears made my fiancee & I cackle like a couple of hens- just too funny to be taken seriously at all. Plus, why didn’t Hurley just keep talking to her in Spanish? While I found the part where Sun was just happy it was Jin’s baby was kind of touching; I still think it’s ridiculous that she would have give Juliet any kind of thanks or respect. Also, the part where Juliet says “I hate you” about Ben after she stops the tape was just stupid fodder for the whole is she good or bad debate. Personally I don’t care WHY she’s siding with the Others, it still makes her a coward & a villian. Lastly: the big red herring. Either the Dharma Initiative (or one of it’s off -shoots) has more money & power than Haliburton or they are all living in some type of alternate universe. Staging a jumbo jet crash, bodies & all would be logistically impossible for about a hundred different reasons. That is all…
Has Hurley become the Gilligan of the Island?
It sure seems that way little buddy…
I have Hurley pegged as Lassie. When the trouble started, it was him that wanted to go get help.
“Staging a jumbo jet crash, bodies & all would be logistically impossible for about a hundred different reasons.”
since when has reason or rationale or logic ruled this show? I’m not saying it’s possible (or likely), but in the context of the show, they wanted us to to gasp (shock!) as that end-of-the-episode reveal…and it wasn’t that shocking to me simply b/c they’ve asked us to believe the Others/Dharma have significant resources…is it so unreasonable to think they expect us to believe they could stage a plane crash?
I know people love ‘24′, but I watched the first season up to the point where jack’s wife went amnesiac on us. that smacked of ‘daytime soap’ and I never tuned in again. there hasn’t been a significant enough snap for me yet from LOST…more like death by a thousand cuts…
I suppose it could be done, but think about how hard it would be: You’d have to fake dental records for EVERYBODY on the plane (even the ones who “really” died when the plane crashed on the island). You’d have to buy off or silence thousands of airline employees & all the victims families. I mean, Richard Nixon couldn’t even keep a small handful of people from blabbing & was the freakin’ President. How on earth would you ever get all the people necessary (again, you’re talking hundreds if not thousands of people who would have some knowledge of the cover up) to pull off something of that magnitude to keep quiet.
hey, i’m not disagreeing…but for me, this show has had little actual pop to it. that is, the ‘game changers’ don’t seem to really be that dramatic (with the exception of Ana and Libby getting shot).
so this whole “they found the plane/wreckage, there were no survivors” tip just seems like a red herring…
maybe I’m less interested in how they concoct an answer for NEW questions…just prefer they’d answer ones that have been hanging out there for some time.
Agreed 100 %
Incidentally, this is the same reason I laugh at the nut-jobs that claim the WTC was a “controlled demolition”. Suuuuurrre….
I’m with there…of course, this is TV fiction, and bad at that.
I’m a 3rd year med student who just finished up a surgery rotation… so naturally i enjoyed watching a former KGB assasin jab a big needle into someones chest to evacuate air and blood from a hemo-pneumothorax, with no regard of damage to the intercostal nerves, the heart or pleura. In a hospital setting, something like that would only be attempted by the most skilled cardiothoracic surgeon. But this is super sperm isle and that kinda stuff just makes for good tv, so i can let it go… with that said, this episode still sucked some major balls. ok so everyone thinks that the purgatory theory is out for sure right? i think what may be happening is that parachutist may actually be a “other” who just told them that their plane was found somewhere else with no survivors, just to fuck with their minds a little. if one thing has certainly been proven, its that the losties are a bunch of dumb shits. Congrats to Hurley, making him the #1 most annoying/hated character on the show now, fat ass needs to be eaten by a polar bear already. Jin, keep kicking ass… i don’t know about you guys, but i’m not gonna mess with koreans ever again. As far as juliette goes… as far as i’m concerned, shes more of an “other” now than she ever was, regardless of her post-recording love note to ben
I was tempted to add Patchy’s implausible “medical intervention” to my “trivial details” list above but that is way out of my comfort zone. Even without the medical training, most of us could tell that it was complete nonsense. BTW, if Juliet wanted to determine the date of conception wouldn’t she have asked about Sun’s last period rather than the last time she had intercourse?
yes… because obviously the more important piece of information is the last mense, not the last intercourse. and its also complete bullshit that you can judge within a day or two of when conception happened based solely on an ultrasound
Of course she’s an other, that’s why patchy came running, he summoned her.
Koreans don’t kick, they shoot. They’re like little Jin Waynes. They love their guns.
Dear COT!
Youve gotta mouth like a Merchant Seaman!
Youre snarky post, despite how much the TV show “Lost” sucks-was way above and beyond any kind of rational discourse!
You, sir, are a knave!
We need all need to come together in these days of despair-and I think your post was the most diviseve ever uttered on why lost sucksdotcom!
Now-If you could conspire to tell the producers how a thoaroacactic needle could kill all the lead actors in the show, we may have something to talk about
Your post wins for raw fluid spillage, but don’t let it go to your head!
Good Stuff
-LB
Dear lrdbronco,
Sir, it is YOU who is the knave, you ignorant piece of trash. When will you fucks realize this is a website for people who have opinions, and you’re entilted to think whatever you want about the show as long as you can back it up. Cautiously Optimistic Turkey has bought some very valid points to this discussion, unlike you. “thoaroacactic”.. what the fuck is that? Do yourself a favor and don’t try to express yourself again, you make yourself look like a jackass
We don’t even know if juliet was being honest with sun about her baby being jin’s. juliet could have lied to her easily and could also have lied to ben on the recording. or not
I thought so as well and in fact, expected her to reveal as much when she returned to the death lab but if that was the case, she would have reported this to Ben when she recorded her message. So it’s probably safe to presume that the information provided to Sun was accurate.
i’m completely inclined to agree with you and i did think she’d say otherwise to ben on the recording, but i was surprised too. i’m beginning to think ben and juliet are married. which is why she hates him or at least says it
Ok, so I read this religiously but I’ve never posted.
I am curious though… does anyone else think that it’s blatantly obvious that Desmond is an other?
Sure he’s got a back-story intriguing enough to waste at least 3 episodes but regardless he was there before the crash. And sure he claims that he was marooned on the island but as we saw in season one the others like to pretend that they were on the flight so they can snatch babies, and even Ben at one point convinced them that he suffered a misfortune via air balloon which landed him on the island.
I mean who knows maybe he wasn’t a prisoner of the hatch, I mean clearly the button was not intended for worldwide destruction.
Fishy.
Not to mention he was not at all concerned that Mr. Eyepatch was running for his life through the jungle and then he just let him walk away because he “gave him his word.”
Please!
Pretty much EVERY character on Lost has let an Other go at some point though. I just figured they were all retarded or something.
Come on, though! I’ve seen people here before say, “Hey, these are all ordinary people, how come they’re so desensitized to killing?” It’s like you’re contradicting yourselves. These are ordinary people. They are not desensitized. There’s your answer.
I’ve thought the same thing for a while, but that would be VERY disingenuous on the writers part to show us all those flashbacks with never a clue to his true allegiance. Of course I wouldn’t put it past the hack writers to try something like that, but I’m HOPING it’s not true.
I honestly don’t think the writers are clever enough
Are all the writers male virgins who have never heard of a period?
1) They have been on the island 90 days (feels like years to me)
2) The baby was conceived 8 weeks ago, more specifically 53.
3) This means they were on the island for 37 days before conception.
4) Did Jin not have a period at anytime between?
Cycles are on average 28 days. Even assuming that she had some funky long time between periods, wikipedia tells me that the egg only has one day period after ovulation to get fertilized, and this happens in the middle of the cycle. That means for it to be conceived day 38 of being on the island, she should’ve had a period after being on the island for 3 weeks. Therefore eliminating baldy as a potential DNA donor.
In order for baldy to be potential DNA donor, Jin must have the most whacked fertility plumbing in the world. Even pulling a conservative number saying that she had a period a week before crashing on the island, that still means she was 45 days into her cycle when she conceived.
Maybe on the of super-sperm, the women have super-eggs. If only women not on the island didn’t have PMS.
That’s a really good point. But whenever something like that happens, a wizard did it.
Yep, a Wizard did it!!!
yikes, super PMS…but then they die after/during pregnancy…so…maybe it’s a wash?
What say you Doc Jerome? Does the timing make any sense to you? Don’t these idiot writers have even the most basic notions of human biology and reproduction. Clearly they had no medical consult on that aspect of the plot. Sigh.
yes, wikipedia is correct, a cycle is 28 days, and fertilization can only occur on day 14 of the cycle and up to 36 hours after… with that said, this person who calls themselves “bullshit” has clearly spent way too much time thinking about cycles and periods. i support the wizard theory
That’s true about BS’s post, but by the same token my fiancee’s first thought was that it matters more when her last “lady time” was; not the last time she made whoopee.
Yeah. I raised that in my trivial details and Jerome subsequently confirmed. But the majority of women know this. And we are supposed to believe that Juliet is a fertility specialist? Snort.
A little conception info:
Normally, ovulation (the release of the egg) is supposed to happen in the middle of the cylce. However, it is possible for a woman to get pregnant at any time. Unfortunately, our cycles are not always as regular as we would like…
Speaking from personal experience, I got pregnant on the second to last day of my cycle, when I wasn’t supposed to be fertile.
This is why the “rhythum method” doesn’t always work for couples who are either trying to get pregnant, or trying to avoid it.
It’s also possible for women to have their periods for a few months, while pregnant. It’s not uncommon for women to have light bleeding during their early weeks and/or months of pregnancy, especially if it is their first pregnancy.
Ok, with all that said . . .
Agreed, Juliet would NOT need to ask Sun “when’s the last time you had sex with sexy Jin” — I think she was either being nosey, or, more likely, the writers are clueless about ob-gyn’s and the kind of questions they ask.
Also, if it had not been Jin’s baby, wouldn’t she have already gone through her morning sickness phase? Most likely. And after all that time, I’m sure she’d be showing already.
Silly Sun, don’t go down the rabbit hole with Dr. Botox! I find it really out of character that she went into the lab with her, alone, even! We know she loathes Juliet, we know she doesn’t trust her, and we know that Sun never goes anywhere alone unless she’s having a sexy jungle bath or posing by the ocean in her bikini (and that hasn’t happened since season 1.)
And yeah . . . super sperm . . . *rolls eyes* I know that this show has taken a serious jolt of machismo lately, with all the face beating (that never seems to fracture or crush facial bones and noses), gun fights, pistol whipping, hog tieing… even chick fights (with push-up bras) and the endless liters of gooey fake blood… but, “super sperm” is just going too far!
I’m surprised that there isn’t more sex on the island.
Oh yes, and I really could have done without the tender, tearful moment in the secret sonogram morgue… *barf*
I yearn to see someone kill Juliet, preferably Sayid, who has been . . . where? What really kills me about Lost, besides one stupid, painful flashback after another, is how the beach crew is really manipulated by the show’s producers. I mean, last week Sawyer actually mentioned Bernard. Hey, he and Rose haven’t been on the show for months. I think they found a Zodiac and got the hell off by themselves! But the reality seems to be that neither actor is still on Oahu. I think they’re reduced the cast to save money since the show’s tanking now and costs have to be trimmed. That’s how dumb the show is. And it’s gotten to be like Invasion by having one small tidbit of action occur in the last thirty seconds of the show. But don’t they remember that Invasion got cancelled??? I’m sick of so many storyline being ignored week after week. They ought to look at Battlestar Galactica to see how to keep multiple storylines moving forward in each episode while advancing the main story WITHOUT flashbacks!
Yes, just don’t look to BSG for acting tips- PEEEEYYYYYOOOOUUUU!! Man does the acting suck on that show, especially James “crater face” Olmos & Mary “stands with botox in face” McDonald.
I’m really upset about your comments regarding cara picada de viruelas Olmos. have you not seen the “Bushido” episode of Miami Vice? I’m being serious.
Man, that guy was cool as ice with his short sleeve dress shirts and skinny black ties. He had the look to kill. Man, I miss Castillo!
Yeah, Castillo was the shit back in the day. EJO is also excellent as Gaff in Blade Runner (”You’ve done a man’s job sir…”). Sadly, those roles were both a long time ago & he seems to have become somewhat wooden as an actor in his old age.
Them’s fightin words, Nico. What you describe as wooden acting is actually the steely determination and stoicism of Admiral Adama, the character he’s playing. If anything, I think this role has a lot more emotional range than his captain in MV. Although he was the personification of kewl on MV, on those rare occasions that he spoke, he barely unclenched his teeth. I agree that some of the acting is uneven in Galactica, but it is a far superior show than Lost mainly because it has remained consistently good.
I’m not here to dis BSG, I’m here to dis Lost. To tell you the truth I hate TV sci-fi & always have (at least as an adult, I seem to recall liking the original BSG but in my defense I was like 8 yrs old) with the exception of the original Star Trek series (& even that I only like, not love). I hated all the new Trek shows, I hated Babylon 5, I’ve hated anything that’s been on SciFi network. I’m a HUGE snob when it comes to sci-fi (among about a hundred other things).
>>, he and Rose haven’t been on the show for months. I think they found a Zodiac and got the hell off by themselves!
Great stuff!
Oh. This is news to me. Did not know the ratings were slipping. And BTW, Sayid is not killin’ nobody notime. They lopped off his balls quite a few episodes ago.
Honestly, dude, it depends on where you’re looking. There are media outlets who are clearly biased against the show — either that or they’re merely happy to sensationalize a ratings drop, no matter how big or small it is — and there are members of the media who will staunchly defend the show. Some people say that the ratings mean the show is in the toilet, while others insist that people are simply recording it and watching it the next day.
Also, ABC pulled the braindead move of making the episodes available online, for free. We don’t see many stats on how many clickthroughs those online videos get. Anyone?
That’s wierd. I had the exact same thought after last night’s show. Just like Invasion. Boring as hell, then a tidbit or two at the end. The acting in Invasion was horrid though. I mean absolutely putrid IMO.
I was really concerned when BSG, like Lost, descended into the love triangle-quandrangle crap that seems to be the core of Lost now. But man, they really pulled out of it with the finale IMO.
Ok, I’ve read down the posts, and something still doesn’t sit right. First, we know that the others know *way* too much info about the crash victims, and showed that they were getting passenger info immediately after it crashed. So, in one respect, they show that they acquired the info post crash, but if this is the case, how would they know about Sawyer killing a man the night before he left Sydney? How would they know about Locke’s dad? Or how do they know who’s bad and good? Why are the stewardess and kids living with the others?
I think they just dug a huge hol