Locke is a dumb ass

Still waiting to watch here in Hawaii but man, that VW van thing is causing heart palpitations.

And let’s just say, as stupid as locke has become at times this season, if he is one of the 5+ body count to end the season, then I’m out…that would literally be the straw.

But, I can’t comment until I’ve watched it so…I’ll be back!!

Locke being alive (or dead) won’t shock me… I’m way past the point where the show shocked me anymore.

Except if the lost writers would produced a character that didn’t have a lame-ass pathetic father… that would fuckin floor me. I’m expecting a Vincent flash back at some point, where we learn that his father dug up flower beds and growled at schoolgirls.

You know, the first time that I started to hate the show was when Kate wouldn’t tell anyone… especially Jack… about the medical station (and somehow got Claire to play along). It was a huge, plot changing thing. The “others” transformed from mysterious to play-acting.

Now she believes “He has a right to know”!!?!!

WTF???

I believe the reason they drop plot lines for months on end is that they hope we forget them, because they are incapable of making a consistent plot line.

Yep, the whole Jacob scene was a bit far-fetched.

Before commenting on the episode I have an admission to make: The scene in which young Ben (aka Harry Potter) walks in on his dad Roger passed out hammered on the couch surrounded by empty beer cans was very similar to the view one would have had of me in my living room watching the show. By the end of it, I looked more like the dead Goodspell guy on the Dharma park bench.

That being said, I agree that the show’s descent into (intentional?) camp constitutes definite progress. There were several comical moments, including young Harry Potter and his dick dad debarking the submarine to be welcomed by hula dancers (the only thing missing was Tattoo shouting “BOSS! DEE SUB! DEE SUB!”) It was also funny when they were in the orientation room and Roger is told that he will be the island’s janitor. The video playing on the monitor reminded me of waiting in line for the Jaws ride at Universal Stuidos (or countless other rides) and being bombarded with the same corny video loop incessantly as I queued through the hour long line. And the Other dude (Richard I think) looks just like Adam Ant! Eye shadow and all! Or maybe the guy from the Human League. I’m talking about the guy who looked exactly the same 25 years ago (when he met Harry Potter) as he does now.

The obvious high point of hilarity was the scene with Old Harry Potter talking to an invisible man in a chair. I give the actors credit for not bursting into laughter during that scene. It was a lot like the episode of “The Brady Bunch” in which Greg rigs up a fake ghost on the clothes line and fools Bobby and Oliver — who in turn convince Buzz Aldrin or some other famous astronaut to come investigate.

I should have known what was coming at the beginning when Harry Potter announces it’s his birthday (approximately December 25 by my reckoning) and then we cut to a scene of mommy giving birth to him 50 feet from the highway — with a visible road sign announcing that Portland (presumably Oregon) is nearby. I live in the Northwest and the weather is never like that in December — but shooting a program in Hawaii has limitations — may as well make a joke out of it!

It is fitting that the definitive mystery of Lost was revealed in this episode: “HELP ME!” Clearly, Jacob represents the Lost audience desperately pleading for a way to be rescued from the show.

I laughed out when I saw Ben “grown up” and everyone else looking the same. He was oldest young man on earth. And if we hear that no one ages on the island, then why would a kid grow up? And the original inhabitants of the island??? Did they come from “Mutiny on the Bounty”??? “Let’s see now,” the writers are thinking, “what don’t we have yet? Oh, yes, an invisible man!”
And, again, when do we get to see Sayid kill someone? I want him to kill Juliet, but I’ll gladly watch him tie Ben to a tree somewhere and burn him alive. Maybe down on the beach, huh? Sayid can tie Ben to a palm tree in the middle of the camp and they can roast sea-marshmellows on Ben’s feet as they cook. Can next week’s finale end that way? Please? P.S. Cook Juliet, too, over a slow spit, roast her for Hurley. You know he’s hungry! AND MAKE THAT IDIOT JACK KISS HER LYING A** GOODBYE.

I actually thought it was ‘ok’ (with all the necessary qualifiers!).

hokey? a bit. but generally I enjoyed it…until (and here is my primary criticism of this episode and the entire series)…

when sawyer, sayid, et al FINALLY take a stand and we’re going to have a “gotcha” moment as they confront juliet and jack, the writers pull a big *SIKE!* by having juliet and jack confess to the taping. worse, she apparently confessed immediately after we first learned about her still being a traitor. so…for the past several episodes, WE thought she was dangerous, but jack already knew different.

to me that’s a sloppy,lazy, and unnecessary misdirection. it’s as if they intentionally create some [potential] tension, then let it fizzle out with one line of dialogue. it was just such a long way to go just to have the Lostaways discover the Other’s plan to raid the camp.

I think some of the other comments are accurate even if, like mine, they are a bit nitpicky. none the less, I enjoyed the episode. here’s a few intriguing, even if minor, points…

- ben’s crew didn’t stop locke from pummeling patchy, why?
- at least some of ben’s crew are the island’s “original” inhabitants (aka the hostiles) AND they may or may not age (cue greg brady’s spooky ghost whistle)
- ben is totally insane…probably…maybe…it makes him scarier if he is a norman bates type (i fully expected a skeleton to be sitting in that chair)

Here’s my take on the episode.

Major Theme: Loved Locke pounding Patchy and his snide remarks to Ben. He was clearly in control and I enjoyed that - up to the cabin scene when he gets freaked out and runs out like a girl. Can’t friggin’ BELIEVE he turns his back on the psycho-ben at the grave. If he dies, I’m done. (something for Laurent to root for)

Minor Theme: As usual, we have the testosterone boys (Sayid and Sawyer) manning up only to have their nads cut off by Wuss Boy and Dr. Botox. It seems Sayid’s main line is “What are you talking about?” with an arabic accent. I kinda laughed when they gave Claire one meaningless line just to actually have her present in the show. How much did she make for that 2 seconds on camera?

Flashbacks: Really wierd. Loved the misdirect at the “birth” as to where they were. Intrigued a bit by others/hostiles/whatevers that don’t seem to age. Maybe the smoke monster is a shape shifter or something.

More Questions besides the obvious Dharma crap and who is Jacob:

- what the heck was they continuous pile of gray ash that Ben stepped over and Locke touched?

- Who is Annie? (do I even care?)

I have a headache….

Yep, more of the same. At first, I liked it and I predicted that Locke would die (I had said Kate but that they probably wouldn’t kill her and if so Locke was gone). Note he was still breathing at the end, he wasn’t dead yet, so if he comes back, don’t everyone get in a tizzy.

Again, what did we learn? Nothing, as usual. About the aging thing, if the guy appeared not to age, then why did his (Ben’s) dad age? Jacob was briefly visible (I have a DVR and frame by frame went through, there was someone there, old guy with long hair). I thought Ben said they were the good guys, but they killed off a bunch of harmony seeking hippies, how’s that good?

So Roger Work Man was Ben’s daddy, at least Ben had the balls to kill his dad. The one good thing was they didn’t claim next week’s episode a must see, maybe they’ve been reading this board. Does look to be promising, though.

“What’s that Jacob? Lost still sucks? I know, but…I can’t hear you with all this moaning and groaning! Ok, ok, it still sucks. But we just suckered them into watching another episode.”

This episode had a Craptitude rating of 4 out of 10.

The flashbacks were pretty informative. You know that Ben is the last of these freaky scientists who love Fantasy Island. Daddy was a dick (whose dad wasn’t in this show?” Ben betrayed the people in his group to the hostiles (the others?).

The invisible man scene was pretty hilarious, and I was actually waiting for it, thinking “we are learning WAY too much in this episode to actually meet Jacob; he’s going to be a magic turtle or some 10000 year old pirate.”

Major questions still remain:

who are the others, what do they want, why do they want who they want, who is Jacob and what does he want, why are their ghosts on the Island, why does the island heal people, what the hell are the magnets in the hatch for, why did it blow up, why is the island invisible, etc.

Since they will never ever be able to tie any of this up, just look for big explosions next week, and Ben will get captured again by the Lostaways (or some other eeeeeeeevil person will get captured) and the promise of answers will be dangled in front of you like a cheeseburger in front of Hurley.

Well, I’m going to say it - I really enjoyed the episode. At the half-way point, while revelling in Locke’s newly-rediscovered bad-assery, I wondered aloud where the writers of this epi had been all season.

Sure, there were some odd bits. I don’t think any episode dating all the way back to season one was perfect. But overall I thought it was pretty strong. Reasons why?

1. We didn’t have to see Hurley, if memory serves me, at all. Or at least very little. A blessed relief.
2. Locke got to pound the piss out of someone.
3. Sayid’s beer belly seems to be shrinking again (nothing to do with the relative merits of the show, I realize, but gazing at him lustfully was part of the fun for me, and chubby Sayid just wasn’t doing it for me.

I am actually looking forward to the remaining episodes. This is a new sensation for me… it’s just sad we all had to suffer so much to get to this point.

Firstly, let me start off by saying how completely disappointed I am with last night’s episode. I’d given up on Lost about 4 episodes into season 2 (still watching occasionally, but not expecting anything shattering), but was given new hope by last weeks episode. Although it came about a season and a half too late I thought it was one of the strongest episodes since that great first season (excluding the crappy finale) and for the first time since early in season 2 was actually looking forward to an episode.

Man, by the time 11:00pm rolled around I was thouroughly pissed.

Every Lost defender will tell you how much was revealed; Ben’s origin, a further and more revealing look into Dharma, the “war” between the hippies and the hostiles and its outcome, a supernatural island overlord…etc etc etc.

However, I say, BULLSHIT! Sure, every season the writers reveal something. Unfortunately, whatever they reveal is of little relevance and way down on the list of what’s important. Meanwhile, past plot lines (anyone even remember the amount of time spent on Walt’s seeming prescience) vanish quicker than a cast member pulled caught DUI.

I don’t know, perhaps if last night’s episode was the 3rd of the season, I’d have thought differently. But come on! There’s 3 episodes left and this is the best the writers can give us after a lackluster season?

Fuck You Lost!

Does anyone think there is a reason that Ben killed his own father and then required it of Locke? Is there some right of passage there for the island. And why did Ben need to be patient? Why couldn’t he kill him right away?
Overall I enjoyed the show, but did miss a few scenes thanks to my daughter continually getting out of bed. I actually missed the very end, but Mr. Meister filled me in. Thanks JT for the link to see Jacob or whatever /whoever that was in the chair. Pretty freaky stuff happening…

P.S.

Since there’s sooooo much nonsensical lunacy it’s hard to pinpoint ANYTHING (hmmmm…maybe the show is a metaphor for the Bush presidency), I completely forgot to mention one thing that irked me beyond all belief, which once and for all should prove beyond any doubt that Lost is FAR FROM INTELLECTUAL…

Ok…so the “Hostiles” poison the Dharmas. Then, they slllooowwwwllly remove their gas masks and sssllllooooowwwwlllyyyy breathe in.

People, I don’t know about you, but if I was around a gas powerful enough to wipe out an entire village of hopheads (outdoors no less), I’d wait long enough that when I finally did take off my gasmask it wouldn’t have to be all cautious like that.

Awful, melodramatic writing.

Cautious hope turns to bitter disappointment. I gotta disagree with you Hannah. I categorally hated this one. BTW, JT, are we kewl?

When oh when will I learn to stop expecting this show to deliver? This epi was a particularly stinging slap in the face because I thought it actually had some promise. But how to explain the dismal turn of things: Locke’s inexplicable willingness to be lead into a death trap, the anticlimactic nature of Sawyer’s return to the camp with the “tape”, the focus on Ben’s past and the confusing proposition that some people on the island apparently do not age past 40(?) while others succumb to bad haircuts. Where are they going with this? Who are these hostiles? Did Ben truly see his mom? How was Ben groomed and manipulated into killing his people? Frankly, who gives a f&%$# anymore. This time, they did it. They have irredeemably damaged the story and ruined any hope of a coherent resolution (yes, I actually thought this was still possible before last night’s epi). And Ben… Ben is the one character for whom they should have dispensed with flashbacks because whatever mystique he still held has now complete evaporated. So after all of the speculation and mystery, after all the hang-wringing and mixed messages, it turns out that Ben is nothing but a frightened little nerd whose daddy was a loser and a drunk. Jeez, what a let-down and here I was hoping that he might be someone interesting like oh, I don’t know… Lucifer or something. And the whole poltergeist angle with “Jacob the Invisible” did little to redeem the story. Quite the contrary it was THE low point in the season. Lower than the ping-pong tournament. Lower than introducing and killing off Nikki and Paulo in the same episode. “Please God. No. Please no…”, I whimpered, rocking back and forth on the couch as I sat watching despite myself. This show has been, for me anyhow, an endless cycle of rekindled interest and dashed hopes. Once more, after three half-descent episodes, I got suckered into anticipating this week’s episode to see “what would happen next” and I got had. Putting aside the preposterously hilarious 70’s wigs, the epi didn’t start too badly. But just when Locke finally gets his groove back (the Patchy beat-down was a sweet piece of fruit, dude), he gets shot in the gut after sheepishly following Ben to a mass grave?! Then, Juliet confesses to the kidnapping plot, hence completely deflating any hope of a much anticipated ass-whooping. Come on! As for Jack, he is more contemptible than ever. Why can’t he get shot in the gut? Nobody likes him no-moh gosh naggit! Complete and utter rubbish… so that once again, I feel compelled to proclaim: Lost sucks donkey cocks.

As of last night, LOST has TOTALLY jumped the shark. How can even the most loyal, dedicated Fuselage fanboy say otherwise? The evil Ben, the sinister chessmaster, bane of our hapless disaster survivors, is finally revealed as a pathetic nerd whose daddy never remembered his birthday. Wow, what a great reason to slaughter your entire community! I knew many guys with the same sort of domestic situation who managed to not become mass-murderers. And what about Ben’s little girlfriend? Did he gas her as well? Will we ever see her again? Will we ever care? As usual, too many loose threads that will forevermore remain untied.

The ep was showing much promise early on. We loved how Locke smirkily deflected Benry’s obfuscations. And pounding Patchy was something someone should have done a long time ago. Then, abruptly, the entire episode (along with the entire series) came to a screeching end.

The actual shark-jumping moment of the LOST series was the empty chair in the cabin. It was at that moment that I realized once and for all that the show had reached the point of no return. After being such an intriguing, mystifying show that kept you on the edge of your seat, LOST has become a sad parody of itself. LOST has become like one of those eggs that have another egg inside, and another inside it, and another, ad infinitum. You never find the treasure inside, just another nested egg. And now, after smoke monsters, polar bears, and electromagnetic anomalies, we find an invisible man in an empty chair.

It turns out there was never anything more to know about Dharma. A bunch of well-funded hippies who were wiped out. That’s it. Big whoop. The mystique is gone. But with inept slight of hand, the producers limply attempt to transfer the mystique to “the Hostiles” and Richard — the New Ben — the ageless puppet master who pulled the strings from the beginning. Does the mysterious Jacob pull his strings or visa versa? Who’s running this crazy island? Does anyone care anymore? Now that the Others are on the way out, the producers will kill the next season feeding out tiny clues about the Hostiles each week to the viewers — all three of them.

If Locke is really dead, there’s no reason to continue watching this show. Locke was the only character who really wanted to understand the Island, and the viewers learned about it through him. Without Locke, the show loses any remaining hope of coherence. Oh sure, John will likely get “all better” and probably return from the bone pile next season as some of sort of messiah figure. Question is, will anyone be watching to see it?

I really wanted to see the cute little bunny rabbit explode.

You know, they didn’t reveal anything. I think what’s going to happen the next couple episodes is they are going to wet the appetite for next season. Since they have an end date now, they can plan out the remaining series. But, it came after this season was wrapped (I think) so it’s too late to get anything from this season. So, that being said, last night’s episode revealed a couple interesting things.

1. Dharma installed the sound barriers to keep out the hostiles.
2. If Dharma was taken over, how did the Swan Station replacements get there? Has anyone forgot that Desmond was on the island 3 years prior, and the guy that taught Sayid how to torture (CIA?) was there for a few years before that? So how are these replacements getting there if Dharma brought them in via the area the hostiles now control?
3. How come Richard (apparently) didn’t age?
4. If the hostiles took over, and aren’t Dharma, and are the natives to the island, how did Dharma come across the island and what are the hostiles up to?
5. Why did they kill Locke? Did Terry Quinn get a DUI we don’t know about? Or was it for shock value?

There’s more but this is a start. I really despise the way they don’t answer any long standing questions, but just pile on a few more new ones in the hopes everyone will stay glued. This episode generated (for me at least) more questions than answers.

Anybody else think the old hippie that flashed in the cabin for a second was an aged Locke?