Where’s the magic turtle when we need him?

Here are my weekly musings on the latest episode. Thank God there is only one left. 

At the beginning, how about Jack just tells them they have dynamite.  It is really necessary to blow up an innocent tree and waste a bunch of explosives?  I mean, would everyone not have understood the plan without blowing up the tree?  It seems relatively straightforward without the visual aid.

Flashbacks of flashbacks.  Why did we need to see that idiot Carl push the boat out 2x in the same episode?  Filler, plain and simple.

Charlie has a threesome with 2 groupies and it doesn’t make the top 5 list?  Come on, that has to top getting a ring from his bro!  Speaking of the ring, nice tie in with Lord of the Rings hobbit boy.

Didn’t anyone on the island see the Mythbusters episode that proves your can’t set off an explosion by shooting the explosive?   Maybe they could just back up the VW to the tents then shoot the gas tank while they are at it.

Sorry to get technical again, but a radio signal can’t “jam” a satellite phone signal.  Please. 

Why didn’t Charlie just ask Des if he could make the swim down to the station, rather than cracking him over the head with a paddle?  That seems a bit extreme to me.  And further on that subject, isn’t easier to swim if you aren’t wearing jeans?

Written by Tyler on May 17th, 2007 with 439 comments.
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Comment by Tommyj6168
2007-05-17 02:26:49

This episode demonstrated pretty starkly that the flashbacks are meaningless and only get in the way of the main story. Yeah, we all know this is the Hobbit’s farewell episode. But they spent so much time on his “Top Five Moments of My Sodding Pathetic Life” that all of the other scenes were awkwardly rushed through. They were speaking so fast, I’m not even clear what the plan was exactly. Something about three shooters on a grassy knoll? Are they planning to reenact the Kennedy assassination? And everyone else retreats to the radio signal or whatever.

I haven’t known that many English people — but none of them use the word “sodding” as much as the Hobbit. Do Englanders really say it that often? I hope not.

And yeah, it was funny that the Hobbit’s threesome didn’t make his all time list. They should have waited to air that part of the flashback until the scene at the end when he was confronted by the two babes in the underwater station. Now that would have been clever foreshadowing.

The high point of the show was the reappearance of Bernard and Rose. It was nice to see them for their approximately 90 seconds of screen time. And yeah, I guess Mr. Bug Eyes is not Alex’s dad (or is he?). At least they threw out the question for us to ponder for another 9 months. I can hardly wait for next week when “EVERYTHING WILL CHANGE”.

Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 08:15:28

Just a quick note, the list was for Claire. I hardly think the 3-some would be something he’d tell her about.
Mrs. Meister

Comment by Evil
2007-05-17 17:52:30

Oh yeah, I forgot you have to lie to women. I guess that means censoring your dying thoughts too. Make that a Top 6 list instead…..

But I’d still put it on the list for Claire. She’s an open minded girl, dating a junkie and all. And if you survived your death mission after all, you could just either pretend it was a joke (if she didn’t dig the idea) or if she was turned on, ask her to re-enact the 3-some and regain some of that pre-baby sexual confidence.

BAHAHAHAHA.

Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 19:15:30

I didn’t say he needed to lie to Claire, but a dying note of your best memories would hardly be the means to tell her. That would be more something to confess in an intimate conversation. Besides, maybe it didn’t make his list because it wasn’t an isolated incident but rather a regular occurence in his rock style life.
Mrs. Meister

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Comment by Mr.Meister'sgaylover
2007-05-19 18:33:34

I guess I won’t be giving you my list.

Keester Meister
(Mr. Meister’s Gay Lover)

 
 
Comment by winginit
2007-05-18 01:11:08

But who would be the third?

Kate? He was flirting with her (and her C’s) hot and heavy in season one. Or maybe the new parachute lady?

Geez let’s just hope that’s not why they brought Rose back in the show.

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Comment by Evil
2007-05-18 12:58:48

Well, okay, not lie, just censor. She might be really impressed that “meeting Claire” topped a life of rock-star threesomes.

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Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-18 13:49:55

Never thought of that… If I was being honest that would go on my top 5 as well. Of course, I wouldn’t have to lie since my finacee was there… heh, just kidding… sort of…

 
 
 
 
Comment by none of your concern
2007-05-18 14:51:46

YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO LIFE! IF YOU HATE THE SHOW SO MUCH THEN WHY WOULD YOU WASTE YOUR TIME WATCHING IT JUST SO YOU CAN COME ON THIS GAY-ASS WEBSITE AND WRITE ABOUT HOW MUCH THE SHOW SUCKS. WELL GUESS WHAT GENIOUS, LOST IS THE SECOND MOST WATCHED SHOW IN THE WHOLE FRIGGIN WORLD! DX

2007-05-18 15:09:28

wow…he’s shouting. please lower the size of you letters when you type to me.

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-18 15:25:50

Who is this? Uncle Leo?

Comment by Stickman
2007-05-18 16:18:41

Post of the week - Classic.

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Comment by David
2007-05-18 19:51:27

“uncle Leo”

Nicely done

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Comment by BonnieRose
2007-10-11 14:48:55

Not only is he Unlce Leo, but, I bet he has a pen that writes upside down! Oooo!

Point 1 - Just because LOST is popular doesnt mean it’s quality programming.

Point 2 - At this point, watching LOST is like watching Jerry Springr… sometimes the depravity of it all is just ridiculously amusing.

Point 3 - If we have no life because we come here and post, then you must not have much of one either… since, like us, you came here and you posted. Oh well.

 
 
 
Comment by the black sparrow
2007-05-18 19:53:26

i agree very much with this statement AND NO THEIR VOICE SHOULD NOT BE LOWERED THIS IS THE BEST SHOW EVER WTF IS THE POINT OF DEVOTING YOUR TImE TO A SHOW YOU HATE I mEAN SEROUSLY YOU ARE WORSE THAN mOST FANS. YOU PUT SO mUCH TImE AND EFFORT INTO A SHOW YOU HATE WHAT THE HELL oh and the threesome thing did not make the top 5 it was the fact that his brother gave him a priceless heirloom that means the world to their family. hell they named the damn band over it. PLUS Charlie ended up in the position that Leim was talking about himself getting into. both their lives turned out soooooo different. and it also sets up for when Charlie gives the ring to Aaron which was truly a touching moment cause the ring goes to the first born son and hello it’s Aaron i mean holy shit. so big. oh and another thing with the three some it also gives a time reference because if you remember Charlie gave a confession after having a threesome. and he never mentioned it in the list just the ring.

Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-18 22:07:32

where have all these lunatics come from. I know I haven’t been posting that long, is this the norm? I was gone all day and am finally checking in and can’t believe what I’m reading. Some people really do need to get a life. BTW, “noneofyourconcern” and “black sparrow”… it’s time to take the blue pill.

Mrs. Meister

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Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-19 11:26:02

Funny, it always amuses me that the biggest “fans” of the show have somehow “accidentally” googled the term whyLostsucks…

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Comment by the black sparrow
2007-05-19 16:49:26

oh this was no accident i just enjoy reading the stupid shit people post bout the best show ever. plus debating is fun. and actually my bf googled “lost sucks” and found it. (like all my friends hate this show without seeing the show) but doods (yes i know it’s spelled dude) serously eather learnt o love th show or get a life

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-21 14:26:55

How about I continue to be constantly dissapointed by the show & yet still somehow manage to have a life as well. I can never understand how according to the Lost fanboys you can’t do both.

 
Comment by Evil
2007-05-21 17:04:46

Is there really a point in arguing with a 17 year old Lostie when the extent of their blather adds up to “OMG my bff Dakota told me she lurves lost and so do I! it is so 1337″

 
 
 
Comment by lordbronco
2007-05-20 06:53:40

Oh Hell Yeah!-

Classic moron post LOL!

He’s probably the show’s producer!

That’s exactly how the show’s renewal pitch went to the network!

God stuff :-)

-LB!

 
 
 
Comment by Preevyet
2007-05-17 08:49:49

Tyler, I think this wasn’t a great episode, but they of course covered their asses with the “setup” spoiler. I agree with Mrs. Meister that the list was for Claire, so her parting thoughts of him would be good, not of envisioning him having a 3-some. Also, while shooting new dynamite might not work, shooting unstable, 100+ year old dynamite will definitely work. Don’t you remember the physics teacher blowing himself up after commenting that it’s very unstable and not to jar it around? I think a shot from a gun will definitely be enough to set it off. In Sayid’s defense, he thought the radio signal was jamming the cell phone, and I agree that anyone with communications background should know that can’t happen, but since he couldn’t get a signal out, he probably assumed that was the problem. Until Dr. Botox told them about the the looking glass and the jamming device.

I would also like to point out the spoiler site was pretty dead on about this episode, and very few details were left out. It didn’t ruin it for me though, because I really thought Desmond was going down until Charlie paddled him. But if you look in the previews for next week, Charlie is being beat up by the Looking Glass women, and Desmond comes to save him, I imagine Desmond knew this was going to happen, which is why he offered to take his place, ie he knew the station wasn’t flooded. Plus, we see Patchy in the preview apparently down there also, so obviously there’s another way in/out, I’m assuming Desmond will utilize this in his escape once he helps Charlie.

I hate to admit it, but this sappy episode was good at making me feel sorry for the Hobbit, and Claire leaving his ring in the crib (I guess she didn’t know he put it there) was kind of sad since I’m guessing he (Hobbit) saw Aaron as his “son”. I also agree the tree blowing up was a bit overkill, but let’s not forget the Ben/Dr. Botox discussion of “ok, let’s go over it again…” and then the replay of Karl paddling out. At least in this episode there wasn’t much staring.

Comment by Preevyet
2007-05-17 08:53:50

Oh, and one more comm note, Dr. Botox said they were jamming all signals except theirs, and you jam a spectrum not specific signals, so I kind of have to take issue with that.

 
Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 10:32:29

Preevyet,
Please filter what you say. Not all of us watch the spoilers. I didn’t know Desmond & Patchy show up in the looking glass.
Mrs. Meister

Comment by Preevyet
2007-05-17 10:41:12

It was in the previews, not in the spoiler.

Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 10:47:25

My apologies. In disgust over the episode, L turned the TV off before I was able to see the previews for next week. My bad.
Mrs. Meister

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Comment by Preevyet
2007-05-17 10:54:42

No problem, though having read the spoilers I won’t relate them since they may or may not be true, and since I can just say go read the spoilers. I will say again that the Greatist Hits episode spoiler was 100% correct. Only thing not revealed was the mugging victim the Hobbit saved was Nadia (credited in this episode-and other episodes as Nadia), Sayid’s love.

 
Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 11:05:37

I didn’t realize that. Although, in the end, it probably doesn’t make any difference. Just another path crossing for no reason.
Mrs. Meister

 
Comment by Preevyet
2007-05-17 14:14:42

I think it is the writer’s way of showing how everyone is related in some way. Or they’ve at least have a link somewhere in the past.

 
Comment by Mr.Meister'sgaylover
2007-05-19 18:35:55

Don’t you hate it when he finishes early?

K. Meister
(Keester Meister)

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-21 11:32:51

Hmmm… who could this be I wonder?

 
 
 
 
Comment by the black sparrow
2007-05-18 20:03:54

see now this person is thinking i mean obviously lost has flaws but come on they have woven such an intricate web of questions and ideas that i doubt everything will be explained like what about the black and white stones or all the dolls and wreckage in the caves that mysteriously disappeared. but u must give credit that this episode was good and you also have to remember this is a sci-fi show not everything is going to be logical

Comment by Preevyet
2007-05-20 09:48:53

I’ve lost my ability to think since this show has fried my brains. Talk about getting a life, what kind of loser comes on a site such as this and defends this piece of crap show? I used to think this was the best show ever, but then season two happened and that changed it all. Then season 3 happened and I knew for sure they writers/producers didn’t have a clue as to what happens. Now, since they have an end date, maybe they’ll go forward and make the show like it was. I doubt it, and when it returns next year to 8 or 9 million viewers (because even dedicated fans might forget in the nearly 9 month wait), they’ll be rethinking the 3 year plan. I am going to say that when the ratings drop to miniscule, they’ll rush through season 5 and end it. I highly doubt if the ratings drop like I know they will they will put this crap on another year.

 
 
 
Comment by halloweenqueen
2007-05-17 09:16:55

The tree explosion had to be for some other reason than to demonstrate how dynamite works. lol To walk everyone out there, make poor Rousseau bring that extremely dangerous dynamite to the middle of the jungle, and to use precious wire to “show” how he was going to blow up the tents doesn’t make sense.

My guess is that he did it to warn Ben. I think he is obviously working with Ben now, maybe to keep everyone on the island. Jack didn’t want Sayid to get the phone working before the attack. I think this is another clue.

Ben rushes to Other’s camp and tells them to attack now. He must have heard Jack’s explosion.

Jack then tells Kate, “here we go again”. I think this is a clue that either he has seen what happens in a vision or he and Kate have returned to the island somehow to stop the rescue.

Now on to Desmond. Next week’s promo shows Desmond and Mikhail in the Looking Glass. Desmond probably knew Charlie was going to hit him with the oar. He also knew of his involvement to the mission, but why not tell Charlie the whole thing. Maybe they both die.

I thought it was interesting that Juliet knew about the Looking Glass but said it was abandoned. Was she lying? Or was Ben keep it a secret from the Others. Or is it manned by Penny’s Amazon Army? Interesting place, nonetheless.

I’ve always been a Charlie hater, but I got teary-eyed for the little guy a few times last night.

Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 10:40:22

Interesting theory of Jack ‘notifying Ben with the explosion. But didn’t Karl arrive at the beach just after the explosion. It seems to me that not enough time passed for Ben to change the plans and Alex to find Karl and then Karl to make it to the island. If Karl could get there that quickly then why couldn’t the other others not make it there until night fall.
Mrs. Meister

Comment by Preevyet
2007-05-17 10:47:29

Ben returning was 6 hours earlier (as so indicated by a on screen note), and assuming all other things were timed correctly, then the explosion happened much later than that, ie when Karl was paddling over is when it blew. Just after they blew up the tree, they were walking back when Karl showed up. I don’t think they were close enough to hear the explosion and that Jacob told Ben that Locke gave Sawyer the tape recorder, that’s why Ben shot him. Just my opinion, not a spoiler. Karl made it there earlier because he took a short cut, the water. The other group is going through the jungle and the idea was to surprise them at night anyway.

OMG, I sound like some uber fan. I must go now and cleanse.

Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 11:03:20

ok, admittedly, your post is somewhat confusing me. Are you saying the explosion happened while Karl was in route and therefore impossible for the explosion to serve as a warning for Ben?

I disagree on why Ben shot Locke. I think Ben was simply jealous that Locke could hear him, Jacob. Ben is fearful of being replaced by Locke.
Mrs. Meister

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Comment by Preevyet
2007-05-17 11:13:41

Correct, 6 hours before Karl came on shore and was tackled by Sayid, Ben returned to the Other’s camp. Since they (the Losties) had just blown the tree not more than an hour before Karl got there (the Losties were returning from the demo and admittedly it could have been longer than an hour), the explosion was just a demo for the Losties. I don’t recall Jack saying here we go again, but I think he was referring to the last time they went after the Other’s and got captured.

I have to stop this. I deleted the episode of my PVR or I have a feeling the uber fan would be coming out tonight in slow mo recaps of the episode. Ugh. I wish Earl was still going, now I have nothing to take my mind off Lost tonight. Maybe I can watch my “Deadliest Catch” from Tuesday.

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-17 11:15:06

Yes, Ben had already ordered the attack take place immediately long befoe Jack’s demonstration. Probably several hours earlier at least. The “Jack is an Other” theory is an interesting one, but seems to be untrue.

 
Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 11:16:53

L loves that show as well. I’ve seen it, but just a little much testosterone for me.
Mrs. Meister

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-17 13:42:58

I get sea sick watching it. Not much of an ocean goer I’m afraid… Now Man vs. Wild, there’s a testosterone laden show for ya’.

 
Comment by Preevyet
2007-05-17 14:16:52

Well, they did have a female crew member this year, some Captain’s wife who got seasick the first day, but basically was there for feeding the crew. She did throw the hook once, and she sorted crab, and did bait, so it’s not like she didn’t help out.

 
Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 14:22:36

Man vs. Wild, is that the one where they drop the dude in the middle of nowhere and he has to survive with next to nothing? I have seen that and liked it. I love the outdoors & camping, hiking etc, so that is very cool. The bug eating and dead rat eating has to go though. Couldn’t do that.
Mrs. Meister

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-17 14:36:34

That’s the one, he even took a bite off a zebra carcass one time- GROSS! That’s another one my fiancee loves because the host (Bear Grylls, former British SAS, etc) is *soooo dreamy*…

 
Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 15:01:52

I’ll have to take your/her word for it, I only have eyes for LMeister.
Mrs. Meister

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-17 16:12:56

You can’t REALLY be that sweet!

 
Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 16:19:30

Really. I’m nothing if not truthful.

 
Comment by Mr.Meister'sgaylover
2007-05-19 18:38:47

Mr. Meister does love his testosterone!
Fresh from the cow.

K. Meister
(Keester Meister)

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-17 10:34:36

Much love for Rose & Bernard, wooohooo!!! Their “cameo” was the best part of this craptacular Hobbit-centric episode.

Charlie IS going to die in the next episode, so try not to be too disappointed all. In any case, the idea of a greatest hits was kind of clever given that Charlie is a musician & there was some pretty good acting all around. Even the scene with Hurley saying goodbye was kind of nice & understated for a change. My big problem with this episode is that after the story finally started moving forward at a clip; they kill the momentum with this liesurely paced, flashback heavy filler job. Should have been a smaller part of another episode or something…

I too wondered why Jack would put on that little demonstration with the dynamite. Doesn’t seem to make a whole lot of sense to telegraph your attack like that. I really doubt it proves Jack is working with the Others, but who knows. Quite frankly when he started talking about “blowing them to hell” or whatever I got a little excited *blush*.

As far as shooting dynamite & radio signals & the rest I have to side with JT on this one: Sounds a bit like nit picking to me. This stuff (while silly) is tried & true TV fodder, so what are ya’ gonna’ do?

On a personal note, my financee has a crush on Desmond. Every time he comes on screen she sighs that *he’s sooo dreamy* sigh. I guess now we’re even for the puddle of drool that accumulates on my chin everytime Alex appears on screen…

Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 13:28:27

WOW!!
Honestly, I would dare to say that most people that post here at one time, if not currently, love the show. But, we see the decline, as implied by the title of the site.

I personally would like all you Lost defenders to be right, but in the end you will have to admit you were taken for a ride. If that is ok for you, fine, but for me this site offers a great place to vent and commiserate.
Mrs. Meister

Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 13:30:29

somehow, this is in the wrong spot. I’m putting it back down where it belongs. Sorry.

 
 
Comment by Tyler
2007-05-17 14:47:24

Nit picking is all we have anymore Nico.

On your personal note, maybe you should learn the Desmond accent and start dropping “brothas” into casual conversation. It might help things out in those “special” times…

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-17 14:51:34

What makes you think I haven’t already tried that brotha?
Heh, heh… works like a charm!

 
 
 
Comment by Christopher Walken
2007-05-17 10:43:58

“You are everybody, you are everybody…”

Come on, let’s all sing it out loud

“You are everybody, you are everybody…”

And what exactly was the purpose of the camera close-up of the flat tire in the rain? And another redo of the “Wonderwall” guitar in the rain? He stops a mugging in progress. Ho hum… filler redux.

Comment by Preevyet
2007-05-17 10:55:55

Hate to nitpick, but it’s “You all everybody”.

Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 11:14:12

nitpicking is an important job. although to be hated for sure.
Mrs. Meister

 
Comment by Christopher Walken
2007-05-17 13:40:29

Okay, keep singing it.

You all everybody… You all everybody…

 
 
Comment by katrina
2007-05-17 11:41:15

Chris,
I don’t know about the closeup of the tire but the lisence plate on his van read “YRE2OL” to pronounce “you’re too old”, or when read backwards, “LO2ERY” (Lottery).

Also, there was a sticker upside down on Charlie’s guitar that reads “I was here moments ago”.

As much as people think these are filler’s, they just aren’t. Same thing with Expose. Some ep’s are more significant than others but there are clues and hints all the time. You just have to pick up on them. The dialogue even contains hints about the show.

Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 11:54:26

I think your naive optimism is cute.The truth is the license plate, the sticker and a thousand other planted clues mean absolutely nothing. They’ll never be explained. They’ll never even be addressed again. They’ll go down as just another useless bit of non-information that signifies nothing.
Mrs. Meister

Comment by Jerome
2007-05-17 11:57:36

No Doubt

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Comment by katrina
2007-05-17 12:07:12

Acutally your wrong Mrs.
In fact, a lot of the hints and clues that have been shown to us previously have been revealed along the way. Sometimes it’s a couple episodes later, sometimes it’s 50 eps. But in the end it is all meaningful.

I believe in giving credit where it’s due, but I’m not ignorant, what can I say?

Only peeve I have with Lost is the lack of information, but if it leads to a better show in the end, I’ll be satisfied.

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Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 12:23:46

ok, Katrina, I’ll bite. Please school me.

“a lot of the hints and clues that have been shown to us previously have been revealed along the way. Sometimes it’s a couple episodes later, sometimes it’s 50 eps. But in the end it is all meaningful.”

Give me some examples please of the “meaningful”.
Mrs. Meister

 
Comment by Preevyet
2007-05-17 14:20:38

Notice the lack of response is due to she can’t think of anything because there isn’t anything. The only thing they’ve “revealed” is that Patchy didn’t die as we thought. Other than that, I can’t think of anything. Oh wait, the airplane Kate killed and robbed for. That was a reveal. Maybe there is more? Naaaah, who am I kidding!

 
Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 15:18:17

Naa, I think it is much more likely that she is busily typing away all the many, many examples. I’m sure she just needs more time because she has so much insight to impart. LOL
Mrs. Meister

 
 
Comment by Exquisitely Putrid Turkey
2007-05-17 15:57:39

Like a tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing…

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Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 16:21:13

where is that from?
Mrs. Meister

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-17 16:24:19

Shakespeare? Sounds like something I learned in AP English in HS…

 
Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 16:34:32

I know. I can’t remember, but I feel that I should.
Mrs. Meister

 
Comment by Stickman
2007-05-17 20:04:28

Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow creeps in this petty pace from day to day, to the last syllable of recorded time; and all our yesterday’s have lighted fools the way to dusty death…out out brief candle; life is but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more; IT IS A TALE TOLD BY AN IDIOT - FULL OF SOUND AND FURY, SIGNIFYING NOTHING!!

Okay, that may not be perfect but it’s from memory from AP english lit (17 years ago now) and I think it’s pretty close so I’ll go with it. MacBeth

The last sentence clealry had Lost in mind.

 
Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 20:12:55

right, now I remember. I had to memorize that speech in HS. I knew I should know it.
thanks, I’d have tried to figure it out all night.
Mrs. Meister

 
 
 
Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 16:45:59

AND IF you put an “S” to replace the “2″ and delete the “Y”, It spells “LOSER”. Get a grip Kat.

 
 
 
Comment by Marc
2007-05-17 12:24:06

I am sure this will come as a shock to all here, but this was a disappointing episode to lead into a season finale. One word describes it; boring. I would be hard pressed to come up with a list of mediocrity, as the Meisters so eloquently put it. It is rather curious that a married couple has to share the same ID on this site mostly for the purpose of saying “who cares”, but I digress. The coming attraction of Charlie in the underwater torture chamber looks promising. Since we see Patchy in it, I guess we can assume it’s controlled by the Others as opposed to a Dharma stronghold. Also, anyone who was going “boo-hoo” over his impending death, as well as that tear-jerking scene with Hurley should have their man-card revoked.

A few weeks ago, I was going to make a case for why there shouldn’t be so much Jack-hate, but I am starting to rethink that all together. A lot of the spoilers I keep hearing are mentioning some sort of “game-changer” as far as his character is concerned. I guess that means he will hit a three-pointer from half-court with a second left. His lack of being forthcoming about what he already knows as well as his overprotection of Juliet are all starting to wear.

It has already been said on here, but I am in full agreement that Charlie’s list needed to be “edited” for one thing, regardless of the fact that the list was designed for Claire.

Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 12:36:43

since you asked, sort of. LMeister started on this site and once I was introduced to it, I, being a woman and all, had plenty to say myself. :) However, We share a home computer and it is easier to sign Mrs. Meister than to always change the log in name. As you can see from past posts, I sometimes even forget to sign it so it would certainly become a confusing mess if I had to change the log in each time.

And, I have to say, even I wasn’t weepy for Charlie. I just don’t think he is going to die. With all Des’s prophecy, it would seem to predictable and I’ll be shocked if he is one of the 5. I’m holding out that Charlie rocks on.
Mrs. Meister

Comment by Marc
2007-05-17 15:38:38

It would seem too obvious to have Charlie die right now with all the overload of hints. However, Dom has no contract beyond this season to stay on the show, so I still have him in my death pool of the remaining 4.

Comment by Exquisitely Putrid Turkey
2007-05-17 16:00:17

I don’t know… they laid it on so thick with the melodrama that we might be surprised at the outcome. Although I suspect the Hobbit must be getting more interesting job offers.

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Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-17 16:11:55

He’s a dead man, trust me. He will be the only major character to die.

 
Comment by Evil
2007-05-17 16:57:40

Hobbit is totally dead. Why else would they give him an entire episode unless it was leading someplace (i.e. either to kill the character or to make you care about the character). If it’s not a schmaltzy flashback it’s a this-character-is-about-to-die flashback.

 
2007-05-19 11:08:47

desmond say he’s gonna drown…so there you have it. we’ll be strung along just long enough to think he’s might survive…then somehow or another he will end up at the bottom of the ocean.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Jerome
2007-05-17 12:51:16

I’m totally with you on this one Marc, this episode was a complete and utter time filler, just one of the many boring steps they’ve taken throughout this season. After last weeks sneak peak, I was genuinely excited thinking there are only 2 more episodes to go so we’ll get something good. I was wrong again. I got so fed up watching another MEANINGLESS charlie flashback. At this point I really don’t care what was written on his guitar case, or some minute detail thats written on some license plate that if i want to catch, I have to rewind the episode, pause it and stand on my head tilting sideways to pick up. Mrs Meister is on the right track to, that small shit like that will forever remain unimportant and unresolved. I think its just some scrap the writers throw to the ultimate fanboys so they will have something to debate, and blind them to the utter shit thats really being fed to them.

All in all… BOO to another boring episode.

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-17 13:46:46

Well Marc, it’s nice to know you are capable of looking at the show with a critical eye. You have proven yourself to not just be a blindly devoted fan boy. You & I seem to have the same major criticism of this episode: it was slow & clunky just when the plot was starting to get a little interesting again. Go figure…

 
 
Comment by Lmeister
2007-05-17 12:48:43

My title for this episode:

BORED OF THE RINGS

Wow, Charlie the Hobbit has a special ring….. Isn’t that cuuuutte? God, give me a friggin’ break, will you just DIE already? And take Claire with you. I can think of a lot of things that “DS” would better stand for, but won’t post them in mixed company.

The sappy comments that this episode was meaningful and reflective are nonsense. Totally starry-eyed, love-fest optimism. This episode SUCKED beyond almost all this season, a close third to Arachno-Death of Nikki and Paulo, and Fat boy drives the bus.

I am getting exhausted just trying to figure out new ways to say how much of a let-down this show has become. My favorite part this week was the recently invisible Jack suddenly growing a pair and becoming leader-boy again. Ridiculous. I have a new theory that Annie is Jack, since Jack acts more like a wussy school girl than a man. I am really hoping for his death next week.

The BEST part of the episode was when Fat-boy asked to ride and the boat and Charlie told him he was too huge! I laughed out loud on that one!

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-17 13:41:42

“BORED OF THE RINGS”, nice one- I hope Tyler is jealous of that sweet lead off.

Comment by Tyler
2007-05-17 14:43:59

Damn it. Why didn’t you email that to me so I could have used it and taken all the credit? Nice.

 
 
Comment by Exquisitely Putrid Turkey
2007-05-17 16:02:06

I thought that was cruel and unnecessary… but laughed despite myself.

 
Comment by winginit
2007-05-18 01:05:57

BORED OF THE RINGS

haha… I was thinking “the hobbit and his ring”, but yours is much, much better.

And I swear an oath. If they actually would have the balls to kill off Jack, about the only thing that could save the show IMO, I’ll abstain from this site for at least six months.

But they have to kill him off convincingly, none of this gut-shot on the magical healing island (when it’s convenient) bs.

 
Comment by BonnieRose
2007-10-11 15:19:07

hahah!! Bored of the Rings hahahah!!

Poor Charlie. I had hoped that he would get strung out again, go over to the Others, and start pulling people’s eyes out. I was, as usual, disapoint with where they decided to take his character.

Claire does need to die… her character really annoys me! Sun gets along fine with Turnip Head, so, he won’t be left alone to starve on the north beach.

They need to find a way to put Claire, Jack, and Juliet in pit… and then Russo can drop some dynamite into it. Problem solved.

Might be nice to toss Kate in there too, while they are at it. That way, Juliet and Kate can have a chick fight while Jack furrows his brow and Claire cries about it… now, that would make for a good change of pace in the upcoming season.

 
 
Comment by enough2choke
2007-05-17 13:18:40

I have a question for you Lost-haters. Do you watch this show with full intent on coming to this site to critisize it or what? If so, I recommend getting a life, or laid. Whichever comes first.

I’ve noticed that a lot of you rely on spoilers. First off…spoilers are baaaaaaaad. Ok, well most of them. These foiler sites are competing for the Hugo Cup Award and they will do anything to attract people to they’re sites. Some sites have up to 700 comments responding to a damn spoiler that most likely isn’t true! That’s fucking ridiculous in my book. They “spoil” the fun of watching the episode with optimism, and most spoilers are misleading. But since we are not given answers the way we like them, people need to know what is going on so they rely on a spoiler to guide them. I suppose this is why you lost-haters are here, you hate Lost, but want to see what happens. If I could recommend one thing, it would be don’t rely on the spoilers.

I haven’t a clue how trivia-knowledgeable this site is but I want to mention, EVERY book in Lost is significant. From the books Sawyer reads to the books in Ben’s office, tent, whatever. The writers’ recommend reading the books because 1.) it’s the books that inspired the writers’ and 2.) gives you an insight of what to expect or of what has happened. (nothing a spoiler offers, obviously) Now, kind of like the Lost Experience, you don’t necessarily need to read the books to understand what’s going on, that’s why they hide clues. Katrina is right…although I’ll mention that a lot of clues have yet to be explained, but they will be according to the plot of the show. Maybe it is just me but I love trivia…and Lost offers a lot of it. Also, I haven’t seen a show on TV that actually tries to be good. Most shows give you a blatant story line that has no purpose, and is, well, boring. The writers obviouisly put a lot of time and effort into this show. Fuck all of those damn half ass TV shows, only thing worth watching TV for is Lost. There’s nothing else like Lost. Period.

Comment by enough2choke
2007-05-17 13:23:26

Oh and if you dissect any show you will always find room for critizism.

Question: What do you think about Stephen King?

Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-17 13:39:39

I know Mr. King’s work very well & I know exactly where you’re going with that. I still tend to think that while these visual referrences are certainly very clever & add some texture to the show they ultimately mean nothing (in so much as they don’t answer any questions or give us any REAL insight into the island’s mysteries). Usually they tell us something about the characters; & Lord knows we’re all pretty intimately aquainted with them at this point in the show. As far as spoilers go: I really could care less because I’ve given up hope of getting any satisfaction from this show by now. I try not to blab things I’ve read unless somebody else brings it up first (for the sake of the other posters who might care); but then it’s fair game as far as I’m concerned. Let’s not forget, the site is called whyLostsucks after all. You seem like an intelligent enough person to get what this site is about (we’re not haters in the true sense of the word). Why not stick around?

Comment by enough2choke
2007-05-17 13:48:21

Well, I was recommended to this site by Mrs Meister’s husband actually. I think this site is hilarious, don’t get me wrong. But, I just feel like some are too ignorant to really be convinced that the show is going downhill. I think the fact that people don’t get answers soon enough pisses them off, so therefore, the whole show sucks.

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Comment by enough2choke
2007-05-17 13:49:54

It’s an intelligent show and in my opinion, there isn’t a show out there that can compete in that sense.

 
Comment by Preevyet
2007-05-17 14:22:56

I think Spongebob Squarepants has more intellect than lost.

 
Comment by enough2choke
2007-05-17 14:55:51

Shows how much intellect you have…

 
Comment by Exquisitely Putrid Turkey
2007-05-17 16:08:22

Usually entertaining (even now): yes. Intelligent: occasionally perhaps but that’s not why people watch or like the show. When the show started, it was an compelling premise with an interesting group of characters. It’s gone way down hill since then but I admit that it is still interesting enough to crap on. However, if I want intelligent, I will watch HBO.

 
Comment by Nico Toscani
2007-05-17 16:25:18

& if you want boobs you’ll watch “skinemax” *badum-crash*
Take my wife please…

 
Comment by Preevyet
2007-05-20 12:47:16

“Shows how much intellect you have…”
Last I checked I had a 140+ IQ, a BS in Math and a Masters in Computer Systems management, and work in computer security field, but I guess what I lack in common sense is the cause of my lost misery.

I think Spongebob is one of the most intellectually stimulating shows on TV, obviously you’ve never watched an episode. I’m watching right now even.