All Lost secrets explained!
Wow, I can’t belive they finally explained what the smoke monster and the 4 toed statue meant!! Actually I missed the episode tonight - got home from the pub too late. I’lll have to catch it online tomorrow. Until then, did I miss anything?
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Didn’t miss much. Oh yeah - another woman got shot in the gut. Seriously.
Oh yeah, there were two twists that catch the viewer flat-footed. It was awesome.
i missed it too! i’m so proud of myself.
Cliffs: FFWD into Sayiid’s life as a hitman who works for Ben operating out of an animal clinic. His next target was a chick, but decides to bone her and fall for her, ending with a bullet to his shoulder. Yet he manages to jump back and kill her.
Meanwhile, Asian dude, Kate, and Sayiid go after Locke and the other girl, get tricked by Hugo, and hostage. Kate and asian dude stays, locke lets sayiid go back to the choppa with drunkie dude and the guy from x-files lone gunmen. Add the dead girl and Des, and they fly away.
Jack is still a douche.
Overall, a ho hum episode.
Wow, I saw the episode and your 2nd paragraph description still confuses me.
Mrs. Meister
Yeah sorry, I wrote this half asleep. How is this?
Meanwhile the new asian guy, Kate, and Sayiid go after Locke who is holding the other new girl hostage. After finding Hugo, they too are taken hostage. They all cut a deal, and Sayiid returns with the new girl back to the helicopter. The nerdy new guy finds out that the island is in some time of time warp and gets nervous. Des and Sayiid agree to go with the new people back to the ship, and haul dead Naomi with them.
Jack is still a douche.
Much better!!
Oh, one amazing thing did happen last night…
Naomi’s eyes are now closed.
Mrs. Meister
Yes, I was grateful for that. And I will say it again, they are not done with her.
The island is in a time warp? So basically, the writers are now writing to all the stupid theories people have made up.
Remember back when the Island was Purgatory and it made much much more sense and was much much cooler?
Although a time warp works in that it is totally non-descript and doesn’t have to obey any sort of logic whatsoever, sort of like bizarro land.
And we find out Sawyer wants to stay on the island in one of those houses… with Kate. That’s new.
Overall, thumbs up episode.
Awesome episode
What did you miss? Well, once again, Sayid proved himself to be the worst strategist and tactician in the entire Iraqi army–and that’s saying something. Seriously, how many traps has he fallen into? And getting gamed by Hurley? That’s just sad.
You also missed Gut-Shot Blonde XII–The Return of the Gut-Shot Blonde. She was one of two new characters who were introduced last night only to be killed. Bravo, gentlemen.
On a lighter note, we learned that the science-guy newcomer/rescuer (I can’t keep up with the names anymore), isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed. Apparently, the mysterious “rescue boat” has these smart bombs that can seek out an electronic target. So what does science guy do? Well, after the missile is fired, he hangs around the target just waiting for the incoming projectile to land on him. (If he gets off the island in time for the Olympics, he would no doubt want to apply for the job of “javelin-catcher.”)
Back to Sayid for a minute: He tells Locke that he KNOWS these new guys are lying, and yet he still wants to fly out to their boat–you know, the boat where he’ll be completely outnumbered and trapped on somebody else’s turf. Plus, we have that whole “trade” scenario. Sayid tells Locke that he knows he can’t just take Charlotte, so he’s willing to trade for her. This trade involves Miles–who is already being held securely by Locke’s Army (as is Sayid!!). Does this make sense to anyone!? Locke doesn’t need to trade for anything because he already has control of everyone! Only on Craphole Island…
You left out something: Helicopter guy tells Jack: “Don’t worry, he [science guy] does this all the time.” Yeah, well, I used to have a friend who played with M-80s all the time. Now everybody calls him “Lefty.”
Overall, last night’s epi didn’t make much of an impression on me one way or another. It was pretty weak. Lots of walking in the jungle - Oh no, the cabin is Lost… what do we do NOW? Sayid joins with Ben and gives up his “new leaf” to be a murderer again, although SURPRISINGLY we know not why. Admittedly, I couldn’t even follow the conversation Ben & Sayid were having at the end.
And isn’t it sweet that Sawyer wants to stay on the island and set up house with his precious freckles. Only we know SHE DOES leave the island… so I guess she is just stringing him along again. BTW, L and I were talking last night about Kate. In the flash forward, she isn’t wearing any handcuffs. Shouldn’t she be like in jail or something? I mean they do have her on premeditated, 1st degree murder.
Oh, there was one great mystery revealed. We now know that there is a time distortion on the island. Didn’t we already settle that with the aged Walt? Why the BIG production? BTW, where is everyone else that ‘went with Jack’? Wasn’t there more?
That is all I’ve got. Not that interesting, but neither was the episode.
Mrs. Meister
The time warp scenario is a retard’s wet dream! If time is travelling faster outside of the island (thus older Walt, multiple World Series, etc.) then the missile should’ve gotten there much FASTER, not much slower.
Good GOD, where did they find these writers? It just gets more and more inane!
Patience is a virtue. By season 6 you might be singing a different tune.
You mean a song like…
“We all everybody”
Mrs. Meister
Oh God. I want to puke now.
Patience is a virtue because it pays off in real life. TV is not real life.
They are just writing this show on the fly on the “shiney objects” method of chasing whatever bullshit theory is out there.
I think JJ Abrams wanted to scam the audience like War of the Worlds but thought he wanted to see how long an audience could be scammed.
Acutally LOST pays off pretty much every episode. You get entertainment. You have fun. Sometimes you are moved to tears. Sometimes you laugh. Sometimes you are inspired.
I am moved to barf….
L Meister,
How old are you? Your comments are on the juvenile side.
Aww, now you hurt my feelings.
Come on, dude. Die hards have been chirping that “patience is a virtue” line every season since Season 2. Just wait for Season 3, 4, 5, etc. They’ve developed so many ludicrous plotlines that they’ve gotten in over their heads. Just wait til the last season, it will be beyond ridiculous. I would at least give them credit if they looked at their own past writings and offered at least some goofy, contrived ending for the hundreds of plotholes they’ve developed.
Where are you getting the multiple World Series? The Red Sox winning in 2004 is the only one that I’ve heard mentioned on LOST.
i’ll bite…
relative to other characters (and other episodes), sayid’s storyline remains one of the most interesting. flashing forward, he’s an assasin…working for ben…!? overlooking all the clumsy, goofy dialogue and the jack/kate/sawyer bore-fest and the usual plot holes and the implausible choices everyone makes…I thought it was ok.
now here’s what I don’t like…
1. sayid seems to recognize the bracelet on naomi on the island, before he knows it has any significance in the future…wtf?
2. i caught the last 5 minutes of last week’s epi, which they re-broadcast in pop-up style with little hints and explanations…the hints are so frickin’ obtuse and explain the least clever references in the history of television that i wonder why i ever thought this show was ‘neat’ in the first place ! (e.g. another character whose name refers to an obscure scientist and time travel, neat !!!)
Is that what the Lost promo-monkeys mean by “enhanced episode?” Is it just an episode with lots of pop-up hints? I thought they might include an extra scene or two (the horror, the horror), but I guess they don’t want to cut into any commercials.
yah, I guess so. I only caught the tail end, but I don’t think there were any new scenes. the pop-ups that I saw mostly referred to ‘easter eggs’ that probably made the fanboy set cream their pants, but added no value to the show imo.
Not much else to add. Possibly the worst episode since the ping-pong tournament. I’m finding it increasingly difficult to muster interest anymore.
To raptusregaliter’s point above, it was rather amusing that Nerd boy stood around looking up at the sky for the precision “missile”; for a second there, I thought he was going to try to catch it with his hands. As for Sayid, I think he goes willingly because he somehow knows that his life is not in danger. He knows that the would-be rescuers are lying about their purpose for being on the island but has determined (how?) that they are not a threat.
Mrs. Meister, I feel the same way about the epi. I would add that the whole time distortion business is starting to get confusing. In the last season, we were led to believe that the island has regenerative powers and slows aging. Last week, however, it was suggested that Walt had taken a quantum leap into manhood (unless of course he returns as a ghost — which would explain everything — yeah right). Finally, last night, Nerd boy appears to have determined that the island was in some kind of time warp although according to his gizmo, the time differential was a matter of hours not days or years. None of this will every be reconciled into a coherent explanation of course.
My only other comment is that for people who were so desperate to be rescued a few hours ago, I find them all (especially Jack) somewhat lethargic about getting off that F%#@ rock already.
Holy mother of God, does this show ever suck.
the ping-pong tournament !! ha ! I’d forgotten…excellent.
maybe a domesticated sawyer and kate will hold a bbq for everyone with burgers and dogs, a jello dessert, and croquet in the backyard.
Sorry, guys, the comments here are starting to grow so nonsensical and nitpicky that I don’t even have the strength to respond to them anymore. Right when I saw that our first criticism of the episode was that a woman was “shot in the gut, seriously,” I threw up my hands and gave up (by the way, I just counted five males, off the top of my head, who have been shot over the course of this show, and three of them are very prominent characters).
Hate the show all you want. I give up.
Come on now JT, don’t give up on us. Only one person mentioned the gut shot. I actually thought the scenes with Sayid were the best of the episode. I just don’t think it was that eventful overall.
Come on, you don’t think Sawyer’s plea to Kate was cheesy or that Dan standing there waiting to be impaled was crazy? If you don’t, I think you need to be a little more objective.
Mrs. Meister
What’s “nonsensical and nitpicky” about raptus’ trade observation? Seriously, how can Sayid “trade” for anything at that point? He, Kate, and angry Asain guy are all being held prisoner. And Locke (whom I like) is an idiot for letting any of the newcomers go. Why not grill them for information since the writers have decreed that Ben not reveal any of his huge treasure-trove of secrets until the last half of the final episode?
Sayid determined that he and Locke are basically on the same side: against the rescuers. Locke loses nothing in the trade. He doesn’t really want Sayid, and he still gets to keep one of the rescuers prisoner.
JT, my friend, I can see through you like… er… a very transparent thing… Classic case of deflection. Comments here have always been “nitpicky”. You just refuse to admit that you have finally come up short for anything good to say about an episode. I think I’ve always been fairly objective about this show. And BTW, objective does not mean gullible or willing to overlook inconsistencies and nonsense. For a long time, I wanted the show to return to its former glory. And until recently, I still maintained some hope that things could be turned around. Can you pick a single good thing out of the steaming turd that was last night’s epi? One single thing.
I was the one who made the first comment (this week, anyway) about the latest installment of the “Tales of the Gut Shot Women”. To tell you the truth, I don’t even watch this lame show on a regular basis anymore. So when I tuned in last night, and was treated to yet another new female character who was promptly shot in the gut and died, I burst out laughing.
Lost sucks as a drama, but it makes for great comedy.
But you have to admit that the plot twists caught you off guard.
Remember, we have 6 seasons to figure this baby out. Have some faith in the Lost writing staff.
Lmeister (Mr) here. My first post of this new, horrifically crappy season is for the California Parakeet. Dude, what are you even doing here? You have nothing good to say about the show, only ridiculously ambiguous statements about faith and belief. Perhaps you should start the “Church of Lost Love” or something like that. Seriously, stop with the inane babble, and make your case for the show if you want, but your comments are pithy nonsense.
L Meister,
Were you not a little intrigued by the twists in “The Economist?”
Are you not a little curious to see how Sayid gets off the island?
quod erat demonstrandum
The “Ben gets off the island and now controls Sayid” is a plot twist, but not a great one. Why? Because of the Law of Economy of Characters. Just like the next big plot twist—the mysterious man on the boat who is really aligned with Ben—will also not be a great twist because the Law of Economy of Characters tells us that it’s going to be someone we already know (99% probability that it’ll be Michael or Wallllllllllt). And yet, the fanboys will praise this upcoming revelation as “breathtaking” or “genius” or “a real game-changer.”
excellent point. and if they introduce yet another new character to not care about, it has even less impact.
You aren’t disturbed with the ease with which people are shot mortally and yet survive, or are pummeled in the face and yet do not need nose jobs?
I think you’re too accepting of this show’s retarded lack of creativity when it comes to basic plot points. They’re great at red herrings, but they suck at creativity. I think they think someone has to get shot (or shot at) every episode to make it exciting.
In next week’s episode: Sawyer and Kate fuck, while Jack hopelessly jacks off to the thoughts of fucking kate.
Since Jack has a vagina, I’m not sure if he can technically “jack off.” He can cry though, especially when he thinks about his dead daddy.
his dad isn’t dead. “previously, on lost”
Furthermore, Jack is too stupid to be woman.
I don’t know… Prosecution Exhibit #1: Kate.
I’d add another thing that seems a little strange is how normal all the killing seems to everyone. numerous shootings, dozens of beatings, a knife to the back…even torture. yet most of these otherwise ‘regular folk’ don’t seem phased by it.
I live a pretty ‘regular’ life in a ‘regular’ neighborhood…and if there were than many shootings or beatings going on around me, I’d hope my reaction would be something like “WTF is going on here?! And why am I still standing near this woman who will very shortly be shot in the gut?!?!?!”
Amen LostSkeptic! And another thing (that’s already been beaten to death but I wanna talk about it anyway): What’s happened to the fear of the smoke monster and all the other creepies that roam the island? In Season 1, the Losties were paralyzed over travelling from the beach to the caves. Now they spend every hour of every freakin’ day on these pointless excursions. Somebody please give Hurley a Dharma pedometer!! If he’s not taking 10,000 steps a day I’ll eat my hat!
Right, and now Sawyer wants to play house on the island. I guess he considers the ‘others’ and Smokey good neighbors. It is just so stupid…
Happy to keep floggin’ that particular dead horse. Indeed, these folks have not been on the island long enough to be desensitized to such violence, let alone to participate in it so casually. They show no signs of mental trauma from the crash and all fear and apprehension about the various threats on the island appear to have evaporated. Thus, a convincing argument for a “Lord of the Flies” type of devolution CANNOT be made here. Jack is the best example of this: a surgeon, the product of Ivy league education who grew up in privilege. Admittedly not a brilliant tactician, but still… Come on. I also find certain people’s inexplicable expert handling of guns irksome (Kate last night handled herself like a police veteran when she was entering the house — cool as a cucumber with proper posture and hand position). And yet those who are supposed to be seasoned professionals (ex., Sayid, Naomi) behave like amateurs when it suits the occasion. Snort.
Mr L here, lets do a small list of all the murderers on this island:
Sawyer:, killed Lockes dad, killed Zeke, oh and a polar bear
Michael - killed AnaL and Libby
Locke - killed Naomi, Sonic Fried Patchy (still lived)
Hurley - flattened a dude with the van
Sayid- blew up several with the tent bombs, broke dudes neck with his “break dance” move (very funny line)
Bernard aka Rambo - blew up a few folks also with his tent shot
Charlie (RIP) killed Ethan
AnaL - killed Goodwin and Shannon (oops)
Echo - killed several beach attackers
Botox - shot her own man
Sun - blew away the chick on the boat
Ben - killed dozens, his own dad, attempted to kill Locke
Desmond-murdered the military dude (sort of an accident), harpooned Patchy (but he still lived)
Patchy - killed Aunt Jamima, killed the two underwater amazons, blew up/drowned Charlie (we all everybody!)
I know I am missing some too, feel free to chime in. Not to mention all the pre-island murderers (Sayid, Kate, Sawyer)
These people would all be in mental wards by now….
Holy toledo! Did not realize there were so many.
If you had been paying attention to all of the flashbacks then you would know that these aren’t just “regular” people. They’re people with compelling backstories.
See? there you go again - absolute, blithering nonsense.
Lmeister,
Put down the Miller Genuine Draft, wipe your chin off, and refute my points.
You’re sadly mistaking Lost with Heroes.
I paid attention to all the flashbacks, until they started repeating the same themes over and over and over…and over…for whichever character was featured.
I also forgot the thing was on last night.. only to turn it on at the last minute to see part of the conversation with Ben and Sayid. (which didn’t make much sense to me) I wasn’t particularly ‘upset’ though.. but rather had the feeling that HAD I seen the entire thing - It would have left the very same impression on me as having just seen that last 30-40 seconds..
Pretty much sums up the series for me at this point.
I find it amusing that you guys ‘forget’ the show is on. I admit, I look forward to the show. I look forward to the parts worth watching and I look forward to the parts worth mentioning to ridicule. At this point, I’m not sure which brings me more enjoyment. But I actually rush my kids to bed on Thursday night so I don’t miss anything. (yes, that means I haven’t given up hope that there will actually be something to miss)
Mrs. Meister
Poor poor Mrs. Meister. Still clinging to that last bit of rapidly diminishing shred of hope. If they can muster a single decent epi in the next couple of weeks, I might, just might, begin to hope again. But it’s not looking good. Don’t think he’s gonna make it, captain.
There is no other show, better than LOST.
I am not sure that is true. There is a documentary on the fascinating aspects of accural accounting on tv right now. It’s much much better than Lost, more exciting, and better written.
I must admit that I thought the fist two episodes where a little better than last season… but now it has got back into full swing… that annoying full swing of frustration and build ups to let downs, etc.
Seems this season all they’ve done really is run around the island in little groups. There is nothing left to explore… no exciting “hatch”, no monster, etc.
Paul.
PS: Why is Hurly still so fat? Surely it is not from eating the Dharma Ranch dressing… it can’t be that fattening.
I think it’s from eating the donuts on the set.
Eating donuts on the “set”…… wait…. do you mean this is just a TV show?
Paul.
Don’t you know that fat people have “glandular problems”?
Yes, they have these amazing glands that produce matter out of thin air! Ask any fat person and they’ll tell you. It has nothing to do with calorie intake or expenditure, but with these amazing glands that can make fat when they breathe. Amazing!
Yes. I believe it’s a process called “fatosynthesis.”
If nothing else, they have conclusively proven that the flash forwards are the most boring parts of the show - and that’s going over some big, boring territory. I guess all the characters are acting nonchalant about the violence because they’ve gotten used to dead people coming back to life. Also no doubt it is the genius writing team making a statement about all the violence in our world and how it eats away at our souls. ………….. Okay, back again. Had to take a moment doubled over with laughter after trying to sound like a fanboy there. I find myself mesmerized by this show in the same way I watch an Olympic skater who has already fallen four times and still has half their routine to go. Just wonder if they’ll go all the way and end by doing a swandive over the boards into the judges’ section.
Wow I still don’t understand how they manage, that after I watch an new episodem I know less than before ! Fantastic !
I hate this program, but I love that they still have all the bags of douche speculating.
They actually STILL believe that a story line exists! They still can’t admit, or can’t fathom, that they are being twisted for the sake of being twisted. They have been manipulated into a new paradigm that forces them to derive enjoyment from pointless and needless guesswork that each episode forces a viewer to contemplate. It’s a boondoggle. The ABC website is devoted to theories, because this is where the enjoyment comes in for the droolers. They actually get to think and be creative in their relationship with the idiot box.
Ben is a Swiss vet with a clinic in Berlin who uses future Sayid to protect the island and his friends still there. What a revelation. I mean, that was a twist nobody saw coming. What clever writers (smoking monkeys at Crustlyland Studios)! That will have people posting theory videos on the ABC site! That means more web traffic, the new TV medium… ca-ching! $$$$$$
It would be clever if this was the intention and not a mere serendipitous result. I’m impressed that they still have enough stupid people to string along, but then again, look at all the Bush voters. So many stupid Americans put 2 much faith in 2 things: their leaders and TV, no matter how stupid their message.
All this crap season after season and the droolers you mention are still out in full force. They’re still churning out the “you have to be patient… they can’t tell us everything all at once…”. Well boys and girls it’s the 4th season now and we still don’t know much of the crap that they brought up in the first season.
“Whoa a polar bear in the desert!! That was such an interesting twist… someone get a screen capture and let’s analyze it!”
This show has become so over the top in terms of ridiculousness. I’m starting to believe that the people who say lost is “groundbreaking” and are still intrigued by it haven’t watched much tv, or are under the age of 17.
Last night was no better. The whole Sayid story made me feel like the writers had watched Casino Royale the night before. So I’m assuming that the “Oceanic 6″ became some sort of popular figures after they return to land - and yet event though he’s popular Sayid becomes a secret agent type murder for hire? Wouldn’t do much for keeping his cover… neither would the shooting guys in the middle of a golf course. And why would he tell his story to a woman that he just spent one night with? I like sayid and i think he’s one of the few characters that still has some value left, but they just made him look like a total fool last night.
I wish the next rocket hits nerd boy in the head. I bet we’ll find out something stupid next week how nick nolte the helicopter pilot is really locke’s brother.
Maybe the Oceanic 6 were only slightly famous. Would you recognize Neil Armstrong if you bumped into him at Wal-Mart?
heck yeah i would if it was the late 60s/early 70s. And even then slightly famous is still worse than being unknown.
Amen, brother!
It’s sad, really. Reading all the convoluted theories on the TWoP msg board trying to figure out “what it all means” gives me headaches. It’s an exercise in futility, and a colossal waste of brainpower.
As the caption in Fox Mulder’s UFO poster read, “I want to believe”. I have got to give Dangerdork and Curse credit - they sure know how to string ‘em along….
Fuck!
so naveen andrews said “I’m still proud of the first season; around the third I thought they were winging it; the writing was poor but I’m definitely doing two more years.” during an interview with jonathan ross on bbc one. has anyone seen it?
I read his interview in the Guardian.
This guy is brutally honest… and cool.
Even mentioned how having an old lady like Barbs Hershey as a girlfriend is a result of an oedipus complex.
Now that Echo’s gone, he’s the closest thing to an actor on the show. Liked him even before the English Patient. He gave the distinct impression in the interview that he did not care whether the show was good or bad. Pays the bills, provides exposure and will no doubt result in the opportunity to do better things in the future. More worthy of his intelligence and talent.
Just to let you know, Matthew Fox also went to Columbia for his undergrad.
Who cares?
Well Laurent, it seems you and I are clearly in the minority as those who truly have accepted that there is not and has never been a chance that there is/was an overarching point to the storyline. (Again, i think watching JJ’s speech put it over the top).
After reaching that point, it is amazing how little motivation there is to watch the show, even for the fun of ridiculing it…I mean come on, when there was still the threat of the show having an intelligent underpinning, the challenge of capturing it’s flaws was at least a cognitive exercise.
But at this point, it would be like watching midget basketball and making fun of them for not being able to dunk. Where’s the satisfaction?
That being said, of course I didn’t watch last night. I was just doing other things and forgot. I may watch it online since my wife still wants to watch it but if not, who cares.
I feel your pain Stickman. Now, the fun exists in watching what stunt they’ll pull next to keep the show intriguing. It’s pure spectacle, like “Jackass” perhaps. It’s a fantasy show set on a fantasy island leaving them infinite options and with no real need to answer them now, nor ever because their stated goal is to sustain intrigue and suspense and NOT to deliver a payoff. It’s like an endless run-up to a punch-line, sure it may be mildly funny in the build-up, but there’s never the belly-buster at the end. I do enjoy American TV, it’s like comics or video games, or some other form of silly, honest and safe entertainment. I don’t mind watching ridiculous TV, like say… Sarah Connor, or Magnum PI, because I KNOW they are trying to ENTERTAIN me and not MANIPULATE me, or a show like Sopranos because they are striving for realism (plus, after days of teaching wealthy brats the art of the snowboarding it’s nice to just crash on the sofa). I take exception with Lost because they believe that viewers enjoy being led around by the nose more than the culminating moment, the payoff. Imagine “Usual Suspects” without the twist. They don’t, or didn’t have the cleverness to craft a hidden twist nor a surprise (remember Sixth Sense?) so they masquerade this shortcoming, this lack of talent by saying that they don’t have one (aw… yeah, that… uh we meant to do that, yeah)!!!! Chicanery!
I approach it as an observer, almost like a scientist watching an experiment, to see how they attempt to fabricate suspense. It’s a small simulation experiment, a Nick Bostrom mind bender where we watch people simulating a simulation (they propose theories to a simulated reality that only attempts to simulate a simulated reality).
Regrettably they always take the easy way out by bringing in new characters and using time flashes (back & forward) to add mystery or questions.
This last one was particularly horrible, I won’t lie to you.
I was really frustrated by the lack of rigor, or more precisely-originality-in constructing suspense (the jack/kate/sawyer triangle, the jack/locke rift, and ben the puppet master doing the mindfuck, and of course the new characters).
I hope you’ll stick around just for the spectacle of it all. I think our dear leader has already called it quits!
“I approach it as an observer, almost like a scientist watching an experiment, to see how they attempt to fabricate suspense”
I have a good example from last week: When helicopter guy is lying there on the ground (I’m pretty sure it’s helicopter guy), he decides to load his flare gun to signal someone. Now this is a pretty mundane event, but the underlying music was set to FULL SUSPENSE MODE—like the producers were saying “ohmygod, he’s loading his gun! and now he’s raising it above his head! and now, oh jeez I can barely stand it! yesyes he’s shooting!! what can possibly happen next!?”
Has anybody else noticed suspenseful music in non-suspenseful situations? I’m guessing that it probably happens a lot on Lost.
not in the minority if you’re including present company…we all (I think) realized very early on that JJs tactic involved “the box”, not the answer. wasn’t that a criticism of his other TV show(s)? the secret agent one?
It was only recently I belive, during the ‘cloverfield’ jaunt, that his methodology became more blatant, and recognized for what it is.
actually perhaps it isn’t recognized for what it is since he probably is being tagged “genius” because of it.
So, I watched last night’s episode and aside from shouting things at the screen like “Jack you are such a douchebag!!!” and “Jesus Christ, Sayid got tricked by f*cking Hurley!!!” I saw that both Naomi and The Chick Sayid Bangs Before He Blows Her Away have on similar bracelets and I thought to myself “Wouldn’t it be hilarious if this all powerful, all mighty puppet master behind the scenes has a team of “foxy” (their idea not mine, since I’ve always thought of Naomi as “ratstache”) women who do his bidding…” and then I thought about that story that Uma tells in Pulp Fiction about the pilot epsiode she filmed once called “Fox Force Five” because there was five of them and they were foxes… This lead me to wonder if this isn’t the beginning of the ultimate comic book nerd wet dream in which “sexy” chicks do the bidding of an evil “genuis” (an evil “genuis” who makes them wear tracking bracelets) not to mention that it’s a cross over to Pulp Fiction so everyone who gets it can pat themselves on the back for catching yet another pointless tie in to something that exsisted before LOST… Like everything else that’s considered notewothy by all the Fanboys and girls on this “brillant” show.
ratstache…I love it. not sure where the attraction with that chick stems from.
so…which one tells the corny jokes?
So what the hell is going on with Ben? He starts off as a kid who comes to the island with his dad, gets raised there and becomes the janitor or something. At some point he gets recruited by the others then turns round and kills everyone he was working with. Now he somehow becomes the leader of the others. Then he somehow starts communicating with some kind of ghost (jacbo). We also find out that the people on the boat have been sent to find him and that he has a secret room stuffed full of cash and false identity papers. Even better in the future he’s running some kind of operation to wipe out all the people who are a threat to the island with Sayid as his personal assassin. So does this make sense to anyone? He’s gone from janitor -> traitor -> cult leader -> mystic -> international man of mystery -> head of a group of assassins. It’s just insane!
Oh and one further rant what kind of scientists decides that the best place to run an experiment involving shooting a missile onto the island decides to not only stand in the expected impact area but has rigged it so that the impact area is right next to the helicopter! Just who in real life is that stupid?!?!
i agree with everything you just said about Ben. Its clear evidence that the lost writers are just desperately trying to fill 6 seasons with only enough story line for 2 seasons at most. They’ve written themselves into such a big damn hole with so many areas of the story and plot that just don’t make sense and have no connection to anything. I mean seriously, everything that we encountered in early season 1 when the show was awesome, the hatch/the numbers/the others/the smoke monster… all of which is now complete utter bullshit that the writers are hoping we all come down with amnesia and forget about.
So to end.. yah i agree that what they’ve done to the Ben character is just retarded now, and the fact they they are trying to tie everything to him is a joke. But don’t worry cause next season none of it will matter.
PS… to california condor, eat shit and die
1. The hatch was part of Dharma… and there is still a lot left to find out about Dharma. Keep watching during the next couple of years and pay attention and you will find out what the hatch was all about.
2. The numbers will likely come back into the story sometime in the future so just chillax.
3. What is wrong with the Others?
4. The smoke monster might also be explained down the road.
THis is all about entertainment and in that respect it wins a gold medal. Just chillax and give the writers some slack. If it doesn’t all come together by the end of seas