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In bed with the flu in a nyquil haze - didn’t catch the episode. Discuss here.
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Last night’s ep didn’t suck nearly as bad as last week’s Kate-centric episode. I think all the romance / love story subplots are lame as a general rule, and the pandering-to-the-fanboys callbacks during the auction had a kind of masturbatory offensiveness, but at least the story had some interesting underpinnings. I guess that’s what happens when you freely lift from Vonnegut (did he at least get a writing credit?).
I’d agree…fair is fair, and I generally like Des-centric (and Sayid-centric) episodes. jack, kate, sawyer, hurley et al bore me to tears (which means 85% of the epis suck!)
the pandering remains a substitute for actual cleverness…they consider this show part of the ‘multi-media revolution’ where by some folks can just watch, others can dig for all the easter eggs and dig deeper still through [fake] related online material (e.g. the whole dharma website crap).
the ‘memento moment’ for me was when penny’s pop left the water running in the bathroom. a “clever” trick to show us how long des was time traveling…long enough to have the sink overflow!!! OMG!!!
He made up some BS about him having flu, because he knows the episode was awesome
fuck you fanboy
Fuck me?
This was an awesome episode, and you lowlife mothers are gna deny it
I’m not going to deny that it was a GOOD episode, but still far from awesome. Reference to Jake’s post below about the writers blatantly ripping off vonnegut’s story. I for one would love to hear what you, CALIFORNIA CONDOR, and all the rest of you bastard douchebag fanboys have to stay about the writers you hold in such high esteem.
ARE THESE WRITERS GETTING PAID MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO RIP OFF OTHER PEOPLE’S IDEAS???!?!?!
Warning to all: if you visit the Fuselage today, you’d better bring a mop. The floors are covered with fanboy splooge.
Ive never been on the fuselage
Are you saying that you are the entire universe?
The floors are pretty sploogified over at the TWoP forums, as well.
I liked the episode. The bouncing around by Desmond reminded me of the final epi of TNG when Picard was jumping forward and back through time. As I posted earlier in last week’s thread, Desmond and Sayid episodes usually deliver.
There were some flaws (how did Des know exactly where to find tweaker-boy Faraday at Oxford when he couldn’t remember anything? How could Sayid rig up an analogue phone line tester to make a satellite-based person-to-person phone call?) but the episode was entertaining and passed the basic stink test from beginning to end.
If LOST had delivered a majority of episodes like this last season then most of us wouldn’t be lingering around this site, me thinks.
My two copper.
RL
Forgot about the TNG finale! Demon and Curse must have taken copious notes the last time it aired in syndication.
you’re generally where I am on this. there are always holes and gaps of logic with this show, which are only accentuated by the fact that the show takes itself so seriously.
still…I thought it was ‘ok’, and at least it started to actually give some explanation (however convoluted?) regarding the time travel, radiation/magnatism, etc. I give it some credit for tending to some lingering specific questions (e.g. why do they need to follow specific coordinates to find/leave the island?)
He could remember stuff from time traveling. That’s how he could find Daniel. He just couldn’t remember anything from his island-life. He believed that he was supposed to be in the army.
This was a pretty good episode. It got rave reviews on sites with people that actually like Lost, and it’s not getting ripped apart here. Success?
Oh I know that, but how would he know what he looked like? He seemed to make a bee-line for him. Oxford is a big-damned place. Seemed to convenient.
But yeah, good episode.
Even though i did enjoy watching last nights episode, I still have one gripe. The writers blatantly ripped off the “unstuck in time” scenario from the novel “Slaughterhouse 5″ by Kurt Vonnegut. They even used the term “unstuck”.
Even still, I enjoyed the episode. I liked the fact that it became clear exactly what the time difference between the island and the real world can be, and yes, they might be bringing back the mystery of the hatch. Seeing as how only desmond was affected, him being in the hatch at the time it exploded and being exposed to the magnetism. It just makes me feel like they haven’t completely forgotten about the major loose ends they have ignored for so long. Entertaining episode
This seasons episodes have mostly been very good at creating new surprises and questions, so much better then the last season. I credit that to the flash forwards which almost necessarily have to be relevant to the story.
However, if you read the recent and detailed interview in entertainment weekly, you will see that a lot of major questions won’t get answered this season.
One of my biggest questions is still, who are the others, what is their history. belief and motivation? Not knowing this makes it for me hard to get immersed in the show, since it makes the group seem like a dualistic “pure evil” sort of group with unrealistic motivation. (incidentally this is the same problem in star wars were we still don’t really know about the emperors history and motivation and must deduce that the dark side makes people robots who become lackys for british actors until they are ret conned into being more pivotal).
With Whidmore appearing in this episode buying a hanso owned book at auction, it also appears the fanboy fantasy of multiple competing outside groups going after the island is coming true, something too convoluted for my taste especially with all the hype about dharma with the lost experience alternate realty game.
You know, if Lost would deliver an episode like that more than once per millenium, this site would be a lot less fun. Luckily the writers have too much contempt for viewers.
I actually significantly enjoyed the episode. It had some issues but I actually can’t remember the last episode that I thought was this good. It was fairly cohesive in and off itself, it suggested some semblance of relating to the overall “plot” arc, characters acted fairly consistently, and it didn’t have such glaring shortcomings as to detract from the entertainment value.
I’ve not read Vonnegut so I wasn’t aware of that rip-off. The couple of issues I had were:
1. The Blackrock reference was forced and didn’t add anything to the proceedings other than to give the fuselage dorks wood.
2. That stupid “If things go wrong, Desmond is MY constant” thing at the end…cheesy.
Overall, I was extremely pleased. Either it was a good performance for once or my expectations have dropped so precipitously that I can’t differentiate anymore (kind of like I’m jumping back and forth through time and can’t tell which is time is which).
My main problem is this though:
If Michael Jordan, back in the glory days had come out and had 50 points and 15 rebounds every 10 games but during the 9 games in between he had 2 point, 10 turnovers and fouled out every game, would we laud him as a great?
Clearly not. Would we even say he was good?
No way. In fact, we would be pissed off and think he was a total hack because he had shown signs of potential but wasn’t willing to put forth the effort to live up to it most of the time.
So, before the devoted get too full of themselves, after all of the crap we’ve had to put up with, the writers owe us more than 1 good performance every few months before any cogent arguments can be made against the overall suckitude of the show.
yep, they’re batting .200 this season…not HOF caliber by far.
IMHO I think they are a batting close to .250 (right about the Mendoza line).
There’s been a collective 1/4 of an episode amongst the previous 4 that was decent.
1.25 good episodes out of 5 = .250
And just to be clear:
I think shows should bat over .500 at a minimum to be considered “decent”, and .800 or better to be considered “GREAT”. If I go a whole month of watching a show where I am entertained, I won’t care so much if the next episode is lame.
4 good out of 5 episodes earns you a mulligan. 1 good out of 5 episodes earns you scorn and disdain.
I agree with much of your observation, specifically the ‘black rock’ reference. that’s when my penchance for eye rolling is put to the test.
Penchant
a demonstration of your penchant for editing online material? you must be very busy.
PS: i often fail to capitalize and punctuate correctly too, please advise…
“1. The Blackrock reference was forced and didn’t add anything to the proceedings other than to give the fuselage dorks wood.”
HAHAHA! bravo once again, Stickman
Another thing giving the fanboys major wood is the appearance of the numbers again. That’s become such an easy way to bait them now. Just drop in the odd reference to something from the past and the fanboys will be drooling away.
Same goes for the mention of “hanso” at the auction. I bet they all started their detective work over screen caps of the auction house.
yes…a nugget highlighted on the ‘enhanced’ version of last weeks’ otherwise unwatchable episode:
kate’s case docket number was 4223xxx or some combination of the numbers.
for some I guess the show is a video version of the ‘hidden pitcure’ puzzles that were/are a staple of highlights magazine.
I’ll start watching for the “Goofus and Gallant” references.
I know you’re joking (good one!), but aren’t they already there?!?!
jack keeps his hair ‘high and tight’ to show he’s a swell and respectable fellow…
sawyer tries to impress the ladies using his feathered fabian coif (100 strokes a night with a brush keeps his hair shiny!)
Count me as one of those that did not enjoy last night’s episode. I just think it was too sci-fi for my liking with the time travel stuff, and the fact that time slows down on the island. I hope they don’t make nerdboy Doc a main part of the show now with his time travel stuff.
I’m not much of a fan of the flashbacks and flash-forwards to start with, but having them happen concurrently with what is going on in present time made it seem kind of foolish. The material in last night’s episode is worthy of a television series by itself so I don’t know how they’re going to tie it in with the rest of the stuff.
The people on the ship seemed to be too surly compared to the people that they sent on the island. I didn’t get that.
After watching last night I have to say my annoyance level at Desmond grew tenfold. Why does he have to make every sentence so dramatic. There were a bunch of times last night when i just wanted to shout “OUT WITH IT ALREADY!!”. Enough with all the stuttering and crying please! I mean Sayid tells him there isn’t much power in the phone and he’s just there crying away. The penelope story is just too sappy for me… waiting on xmas eve for the call… pfft…
all in all i wasn’t too impressed with the whole thing. It didn’t do much in progressing the overall plot.
As long as you’re bringing up science guy I’ll add my two cents. First he stood around waiting for a missile to land on his head. This week, he decrees that the lab rat MUST have time-travelled because she navigated the maze with limited hesitation—as if there could be no other possible explanation for her above-average performance.
But hey, why would a scientist worry about Ockham’s razor when he could just take a big sexy leap of faith? Gotta move the plot along somehow.
I agree with your post 110%, mrmonkey. I would just like to add that the Bee Gees vibe that 2004 Desmond was giving off was incredibly distracting.
Of course, you have to ask the question, If she was waiting for his call on Xmas eve, what took her so long to answer the phone? Was she upstairs with a “friend” or basting her turkey? I mean, she’s expecting this call, sort of, for eight years, and it rang so many times, he might have just hung up. Maybe she was in the toilet, but don’t they have cordless phones in Britain??? Of course, on this site, we know the true answer to the question, which is that those goofball twins who wrote the episode, just had her let it ring and ring and ring to prolong the dramatic effect, story logic be damned. And so it goes. But it was fun to watch — mostly. Why? Because, miraculously enough, something was actually happening all the time, rather than those endless conversations about nothing and lingering camera shots that eat up time until our next commercial break. Though, it wouldn’t be Lost if we didn’t have Jack and his beach gang refusing to ask pertinent questions of geek boy while he’s dialing the future and talking to the mystery ship. As in, “What the fuck are you talking about???”
“…And so it goes.”
Very clever, young man.
Des to the future part 2! He should’ve just contacted Doc Brown and his flux capacitor DeLorean to have helped him out.
I think the best part was the going back/forth in sequence (ie Des falling over, in present, Des falling a flight of stairs in the past). My personal fav tho was the exchange b/w him and Penny tho, awww
Judging by their pattern so far, I think the writers will go another way. In next week’s episode, SkyNet becomes self-aware and Des sends back a Terminator to straighten things out.
“Back to the Terminator Future”
Then it turns out the terminator has daddy issues and wants to stay on the island. Meanwhile they turn the VW bus into a makeshift delorean and kate goes to the future to ask people if they know who she is.
Oh yeah. Forgot to mention one more thing:
YAY! Three brand new characters! (The doc and the deck hands on the ship)
More more more! Let’s go completely Tolstoy and introduce so many damned characters that we have to start re-using names!
What’s the line on a new character being introduced next week? What’s the over-under on the number of new characters being introduced?
Still a good episode but, geez louise!
I was thinking the same thing about the new characters. I also was too preoccupied with what I had seen George in before to concentrate… of course I realized it was Friends later. I did think the Boston accented deckhand was hot and Desmond in fatigues was not so bad either.
Couple things — the references to Slaughterhouse-Five were almost certainly homages. Calling it a rip-off is reaching, guys. Sorry.
Obviously, because I am me, I loved the episode. Yes, it was fantastic television, it was well-acted, tightly shot and carefully plotted. I’m pleased — and completely unsurprised — to see some of the regulars here saying that they enjoyed the ep. I’m glad you guys did. And Stick, I sort of agree with you about the Black Rock auction plot thread, but there is a distinct possibility that this will all tie together at some point.
What stuns me is how fucking PISSED some people are that the episode is being so significantly praised. I’m seeing the term “fanboy” bandied around like crazy upthread. Some dude upthread actually appears to have gotten so mad by the posts of one alleged “fanboy” that he may have literally shit his pants. What the fuck is wrong with you guys? Do you loathe people who enjoy the show that much that you’re seething and foaming at the mouth as you furiously type insults into a comment thread on this site, calling them douchebag cocksucker motherfucker fuckwad fanboys? Are you that much more intellectually advanced than these “fanboys?”
Christ, I get it — you hate them because they take their appreciation of the show to extremes. No shit. But don’t you realize that when you smugly sit around and lob condescending insults at people who defend this week’s (admittedly good) episode, that you’re just taking things to the OTHER extreme? That makes you just as fucking bad. And don’t get me wrong — there are some people on this site, and they know who they are, who post some wonderfully insightful criticisms of the show. The others are more like bitter, elitist fuckheads.
And shit, you can rearrange the letters in the words “Damon” and “Cuse” to form scary words all you want (it’s a dumb fucking joke, guys), but the truth of the matter is those two guys have written some of the best episodes in the series.
I await your flames, motherfuckers. Bring it on. Let’s go.
calling it an homage is lazy…and disingenuous. (not on your part, on thiers…if that’s what they contend)
now, deep breaths, JT…deep breaths…
I’m not really that pissed, bro. Just annoyed. I hate it when shit just degrades into inane fanboy-versus-hater arguments. I’ve seen it on other boards and I really hope it doesn’t happen here. It’s utterly juvenile. What the hell happened to posting your thoughts on something without resorting to name-calling?
Obviously, you and several others here don’t apply to this scenario, but I think you catch my drift. I come here for discussion, not for junior-high-school antics.
I hear ya…lately this board has devolved.
too many random posers. I think most of the ‘fanboys’ are either the SAME fanboy under different names, or one of the regulars acting like a tool for fun and baiting responses in typical troll fashion.
I agree with you, namecalling shouldn’t have a place here, but since I called mr. LOSTnLOST, i’ll give you my reasoning behind it. This fool comes here after ever episode, and regardless of how good or bad the episode is, he leaves one 2 line post, something like “hands down best show on tv, no other show touches it”. So when this douchebag comes on and gets on Tylers tits, it pisses me off and the insults just come out on their own. So there you have it
I post here after every episode?
Ive posted here twice I think.
And is there a problem with me liking the episode “Eggtown”?
And LOST IS the best show on TV, I watch Prison Break and Heroes and all them types of shows, and LOST is just so much better, in so many catergories
There’s no issue with you liking Eggtown, of course. I mean, I’m this site’s resident person-who-still-likes-the-show, and I personally thought Eggtown was one of the worst episodes of the show to date (mostly because Kate is one of the worst characters *on* the show, and it focused on her). But to each his own.
I dont mind Kate, shes fit
and I had quite a few laugh out loud moments. It was just entertaining
Anybody who comes to a blog called “Why Lost Sucks” and has a meltdown over the fact that pro-Lost comments are routinely ridiculed should read the URL again. And again. And again.
And where upthread does anybody call anyone a cocksucker motherfucker fuckwad fanboy?
If there’s anyone who’s “seething and foaming at the mouth as you furiously type insults” it’s you my friend. Just look at your post—it actually concludes with “I await your flames, motherfuckers. Bring it on. Let’s go. ”
Listen, if you want to be a masochist and come to this site—that’s cool. But don’t then turn around and say “Hey, you guys are being too mean! Knock it off! You’re hurting my feelings!” That just makes you sound whiny and pathetic.
Great. Who the fuck is this guy, now? Did you get offended because I made fun of your Demon and Curse thing? Sorry. I seem to have this weird habit of making fun of things that are really stupid. I hope I didn’t offend you. Do you throw darts at pictures of Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse too?
The way I concluded my blog post — with the entire bring on the flames thing — is a way I’ve ended several of my posts here. Many of the regulars here already knew that, and most of them already know me. You didn’t, though, which is why the only person leaping to support you is some dude who posts as “Mr. Monkey.”
And honestly, dude, the rest of your reply to my post was a little retarded, and I don’t really have the time to walk you through what I wrote and explain what each little sentence means. It goes without saying that you either intentionally misconstrued what I wrote or didn’t understand it. Either way, I certainly hope it doesn’t sound too whiny and pathetic when I tell you to go find a really, really big truck and step in front of it.
repeat after me:
Why Lost Sucks
Why Lost Sucks
Why Lost Sucks
seriously there are plenty of sites, forums blogs etc where you can discuss your love for the show. Others and myself come here as a haven to mock this ridiculous show since you can’t do it on any place related to Lost. So if I feel the need to bash the show, and it’s rabid fans, I sure don’t have to justify it to you or any other trolls. If that offends you then just take a deep breath, and remember which site you’re on.
“And honestly, dude, the rest of your reply to my post was a little retarded, and I don’t really have the time to walk you through what I wrote and explain what each little sentence means.”
This is what people say when they know their argument has no merit. So please explain to me, in simple words that I can understand, why posters on a blog called Why Lost Sucks should have to tiptoe around a superfan with a short fuse who can’t stand for others to make fun of his favorite show?
You know what you are JT? You’re the Jehova’s Witness who wants to go door-to-door on Super Bowl Sunday. Does the Jehova’s Witness want to come in, sit down, and enjoy the game? No, the Jehova’s Witness wants everybody to stop what they’re doing and listen to him proselytize. Plus, you want us to follow YOUR rules. “Stop using the word fanboy!” “Stop making childish, profane taunts!” “Stop being elitist snobs!”
Who the hell made you boss o’ the board?
And by the way, I didn’t know that there were seniority rules on this blog. Maybe I should just lurk for a few more years before I post anything else. Sorry to have offended the great JT who obviously has more seniority on this blog than I do.
You can now call me a dipshit or a retard or whatever since name-calling seems to be your strong suit.
JT = fanboy
JT = Worthless Cunthole
“And don’t get me wrong — there are some people on this site, and they know who they are, who post some wonderfully insightful criticisms of the show.”
Thanks!!
Mrs. Meister
Pretty well said, i’d say. I was under the impression that all the people saying lost sucks now (myself included) have their fingers crossed that it will turn around and see at least some of it’s initial potential. I don’t rightly understand why one would hang around this blog/forum without that stance.
Truth be told, it’s not too late. With some more tight and relevant episodes they can actually pick this thing back up, though i’m not holding my breath.
has any one seen my violin?
violin comment was meant for JT of course.
HatetheTV- I agree with you. I hope they turn it around… and please give us some answers…
the episode was good. I wanted to see what happened to bruce lee with the grenade in his mouth this episode though. It would be great if they just left him like that and then answered what happened to him next season or the season after that or the season after that.
I love how I’m accused of not posting because the episode was good. I have no problem saying it’s good if it’s good. That being said, I just watched the episode. It was OK - just OK. I wouldn’t even consider it the best show of season 4 though. I just feel like I had seen it before so many times. Call it an homage, a rip off, or whatever, but the plot has been played out in so many books, movies, and tv shows. I agree with the other post as well about new characters. That’s the last thing we need with 100s already.
The writers seem to be getting lazy with their plot devices, like the urgent phone call setup. Whenever anyone has access to a phone, there is an urgent situation put in place to add drama. Like when Des gets on the phone with Faraday the alarm goes off and the boat people are breaking down the door. Then when Des can talk to Penny, the battery is only good for a minute. You can probably find 10 more examples of this in previous episodes, but this was just twice in same episode. It’s getting tiring to me, and just amounts to lame writing.
Hope you feel better, bro. I disagree with everything you’re saying, but I’ll let it slide because you’re not feeling so hot. Hope the Nyquil kicks in.
Thanks man. You gotta admit though the urgent phone call scenario is a bit played out. Penny and Charlie, theres another one.
JT = Useless cunthole
Aw. That’s cute. Thanks! Did one of my posts above make you cry?
My main feeling was one of relief. Desmond is probably the character I like the most on the show and I was afraid they were going to make him nuts or screw him up some other way. Time travel stories generally just give me a big headache. He did that in the past because someone from the future said to, but how could the guy from the future have done it if the guy from the past hadn’t already done it unless….. and I’m off to look for the Advil. Too bad, because it’s pretty obvious that time twisting in on itself or whatever the au courant term is will be playing a big part in whatever explanation they finally choose to give us. But anyway - just happy Des was okay and Penny loves him, and I won’t even give a “yeah right” about hte power working just long enough for a little of the call.
Tyler your just nitpicking.
You do realise your doing that dont you?
Yes, thats what we do around here.
Well, at least you admit it
I think Desmond’s whole time-travel/consciousness-jumping thing is very inconsistent, and each new facet they introduce sort of conflicts with the earlier episodes that have addressed it. Overall, it’s just too confusing for the TV format. I’m sure it works well when Vonnegut puts it on the page in “Slaughterhouse Five” - which I have not read - but on Lost it just adds to the clutter that the show has become. I hope they can pull it off with some clarity.
Something a fanboy suggested on another site leads me to believe the whole show is a pacific island version of The Dark Tower… which I think is lame, because that series took a nosedive after book 3. The helicopter follows coordinates just like the gunslinger had to follow the “beam”… different versions of time, dimensions… unfortunately, a lot of similarities are popping up.
All in all I would have to say this is the best episode of the current season. Certainly a step up from last weeks episode. The only real gripe I can come up with for this episode is that it doesn’t explain why Penny waits for the call. The scene between them ends with her kicking him out thinking he might be crazy. Now eight years later she waiting for his call, perhaps in the future they might just decide to show us what changed her mind. After all she clearly stated she wanted him out of her life and her father stated she hated him so what changed in eight years to make her wait for his call and profess her love for him?
Because Desmond is the love of her life
They end up getting back together after 1996.
I have the flu too. I think I caught it from passing through the same time coordinates as a broadcast of an episode of LOST.
Earlier, before this post went up, I tried to read another message board about loose ends and saw inexplicable things like “why the Hanso family sold the diary to Widmore.” Was I supposed to understand that, or am I delirious? No, wait, please don’t explain it. Don’t. It helped me remember why I promised myself this would be the only place I peek in for my weekly hour of LOST-related entertainment.
Carry on, commentators. I’m looking forward to reading the posts through a medicated haze.
whast wrong with you people? after reading 5 comments on this site, it reminds me of the kkk, only lost haters, not black ppl haters. the show is awesome
Disliking a creative work and commenting on it in a rational, if barbed way, is exactly like violent and murderous racism. When a critic famously reviewed a Broadway production of Antony and Cleopatra decades ago by writing a single line: “”Tallulah Bankhead barged down the Nile last night as Cleopatra…and sank,” it was precisely the same as deadly terrorism. That’s why I go to the TWOP forums and the Fuselage and post things like, “What’s wrong with you people, the show sucks.” Oh, wait.
Yeah, I know I’m not supposed to feed them, but they always look so forlorn and starved. Don’t you want to give them a cookie?
Dude, you are so unbelievably better than everyone.
I read that as “so unbelievably more bitter than everyone”–and am now worried about what that says about me, because I didn’t mind it at all
Eh, I’ll blame the scrambling on the fever. Edging up around 102F! Will I win a prize if my flu sucks worse than Tyler’s? If it reaches 104F, I totally promise to come back and write an essay on “The things I do like about Lost, and Sayid’s manly arms.”
I thought the epi was good. Not perfect, but good.
Did anyone notice that the alarm on the boat is the same alarm from the hatch. You know, when they wouldn’t enter the numbers in time. That sound is so annoying. But, I guess that is the point of alarms.
One thing that didn’t make sense to me was that Daniel (1994) asked Des if Daniel (2004) would remember Des from 1994 and Des told him no. But somehow, Penny would remember that Des is going to call her on Christmas Eve or remember to keep the same phone number. What is Penny to think of all the time between their 1994 encounter and the present? Didn’t they have contact in the last 10 years? Am I forgetting or missing something?
Other than that, I thought the worst part of the show was when Sayid and Des get to the boat and Des freaks out. The men are going to take Des down to see the doc and Sayid looks over at the helicopter dude for confirmation that it is safe to let Des go. Like who is the helicopter dude to Sayid. Why would he look to him? I thought that was so stupid, and also that Sayid gave him his gun.
But overall, not a bad epi. I still think they need like at least 5 more like this just to make up for last week.
Mrs. Meister
Glad you (semi) dug it. What did Mr. Meister think?
Well, since you asked…
I am writing this post without reading the others comments, though the Mrs informed me that there is a general consensus that this latest installment was in the “okay” range.
I unfortunately did not really feel that way. I am not fully sure why I did not like this episode, and I feel that I will need more time to decide upon its ultimate level of suckiness, however, I will try to put it into words:
I loved the island, I loved the mystery and intrigue as so many of you do too. I wanted more than anything to understand the island, like Locke supposedly does. This episode was 99% off-island, and I HATED that. I don’t give a crap about the freighter, the half-dozen new characters (1 already dead, what a surprise) or more retarded flash black-forward-sideways mind trips. I REALLY fear that the ultimate nonsense ending of this show will be some sort of ridiculous time-warp Star Trek wormhole bullcrap. If this entire show is explained away in some ridiculous sci-fi mumbo-jumbo, I may hunt down JJ myself.
In a word, I am worried. Worried that the show will really devolve even further than I thought possible. I will withhold final judgment as the new epis unfold, but this does not move in the direction that is good for me
You do realize that it is all just pretend don’t you? Those are just actors PRETENDING to be stuck on an island…..
You do realize your an ass, don’t you? You are not just PRETENDING to be one, you are….
You certainly seem to be an ass expert….
my bad, 1996.
Mrs. Meister
Mrs Meister… didn’t Penny meet up with Desmond at the stadium right before he went on the boat race around the world? When he was training and ran into Jack, brother?
Watch upcoming episodes for an “Intergalactic Court” and a poodle……….
Wow…… This is was great episode. If more episodes are like this, this may be the last time I read this blog.
Good
Faraday invented a TIME MACHINE. Someone from the present will have been aboard “The Black Rock.” There will be a reference to it in the auctioned journal. (Probably Desmond and the Poodle.) The Machine didnt send the rats (Elouise) body to the future just some spritual portion of it. This would explain the invisible beings and voices. Ben (Halliburton/Bush) have stolen Faradays machine and are flying around in time running amuck. Hurleys magical numbers will turn out to be coordinates, time machine settings and actuall lotery numbers that were rigged in the future and played in the past.
Now THAT’s science !!
Perhaps you are hearing the voices that make you write this idiotic nonsense. “Halliburton”! What a dumbass.
Get out of your folks basement and get some air already.
Wow dude, that is what we were all going to say to you. Your theory sounds like the ravings of some textbook crazy person from Law and Order:
The bearings! friction! Pepsi and coke don’t know the coordinates! So many Japanese people!
Maybe your theory sounds lucid to you, but to anyone who didn’t do their PhD in Lost (shouldn’t really be required to watch the show IMHO) it sounds like a bunch of nonsense.
Lost Writers were absent the day they taught Keep it Simple Stupid.
Everyone knows that anyone that uses the word “Dude” is a closet homosexual.
I thought you realized I was out of the closet when I made you into my queen bitch bottom the other night.
If you want discretion, I won’t tell anybody okay? But you might want to stop wearing ass chaps out of the house from now on, and just reserve them for Thursday nights when Lost is on.
I’m sorry. You must have me confused with your Mother.
seriously Joe… a “your mother” comeback? what the fuck century are you from you unoriginal hack?
Pardon this post but I haven’t seen this weeks episode since I am in training (ARMY TRAINING, SIR!). But I agree with JT’s post above about the fanboy heckling, we need to get over that. I liked last week’s episode though it had reality flaws with the trial. There were bunches of clues in it if you’d take the time to critically watch and analyze. THat being said, I read an article in Entertainment Weekly and team Darlton admitted a few interesting things, that Michael is coming back, the coffin guy will be explained, and some other tidbits my fried brain can’t remember. Read it if you can (Will Ferrel on the cover I think). Point is, they said this season is all about the freighters and the Losties relationship with them. Some other things are slated to be revealed so hang on, the last few episodes should be good. I may convert back JT, if this current episode (I’ll be watching streaming today in my hotel) is as good as I see people saying it is.
CPT Preevyet on Duty in Oklahoma at Ft Awesome (otherwise known as Ft Sill)
Could you please call in an ICBM stike on the Lost Island pls? I know the air force handles that, but maybe you can pull some strings….
I am in the very small minority of people who thought this episode sucked, and of course, my main beef is with the writing, but it goes beyond what they are doing with the story. In a George Lucas sort of way, writers are ignoring acting and dialogue in exchange for obsessively overdoing the details of their story - the same way Lucas obsessed over CGI FX in his Star Wars prequels.
The dialogue on LOST has gotten so lazy that even the better actors on the show (i.e., Desmond) have very little to work with, and the result is that their performances come of as horrible. I hated Desmond’s over-the-top delivery, screaming and paranoia on Thursday.
And the drill instructor…. “At least it was a military dream!”
Jesus Christ, gimme a break. Stop sleep walking through the writing. And I wanna hear Sawyer say something other than, “Sonofabitch!!!!” Remember “Outlaws” - the best episode of the whole series? It had nothing to do with Sci-Fi and supernatural clutter. Bring back the character of this show, you bunch of LA emo sci-fi geeks.
Great points zitch. The crappy dialogue seems to be getting worse each season. ay brotha?
No mattah what we try to do… the show’s gonna die, Chahleh
I kinda liked the drill instructor—mostly because he reminded me of those great Graham Chapman characters.
What? A good episode?! I went to TWoP to see what all the fuss was about.
All I saw was oooo Desmond and Penny this, Penny and Desmond that, oooo time travel, oooo Kurt Vonnegut shoutouts, Daniel…. (Daniel?)
Needless to say, I quickly lost interest in seeing the new episode. First off, I couldn’t care less about Desmond and Penny. Anyone who didn’t appear in the first season has no business taking over the show like this, imo. Second, I’m not going to be lured in by shiny objects like “time travel with Desmond”, I want the focus to stay on the ORIGINAL cast, not all these new people. Speaking of which, I hear they added several new characters. Will it ever end? It’s ridiculous.
Finally, regarding the 20 pages of posts on TWoP that appeared minutes after the episode was over - color me suspcious. Even back in its heyday the Lost episodes weren’t getting that much attention. Unless there’s been a sudden new influx of Lost fanboys, I have to wonder whether Lost has hired a whole bunch of people to post messages on boards like this to boost flagging morale.
interesting…I guess that makes [at least] two camps of non-fans. I find myself entirely bored by the ‘originals’, even Locke has become…psycotic, but not in any interesting way. sayid (he’s original?) seems to have a good storyline brewing, but they rest, gah!
I’ve said the episode was ‘ok’, and I stand by it. the [weak] acting, [poor] writing, obsession with detail over either of the above, are standards for nearly every episode. maybe my standards and expectations continue to drop, but this one entertained.
I guess I was able to overlook the macgyver moments and other inconsistencies b/c I like the desmond character. and his story - with penny and penny’s pop - seem integral to whatever end game the have planned that his character was probably planned from the start (making him an almost original).
Finally, regarding the 20 pages of posts on TWoP that appeared minutes after the episode was over - color me suspcious. Even back in its heyday the Lost episodes weren’t getting that much attention.
They absolutely were getting that much attention, if not more. I don’t read the TWOP forums anymore — they’re a little too elitist for my tastes — but I recall there easily being 30+ posts about any given week’s episode usually within 10 to 20 minutes.
And I’m assuming that bit about ABC executives actually hiring people to post on a website that few people actually care about — that’s a joke, right? There’s no grand conspiracy. People liked the episode. There aren’t any shadowy figures twirling their mustaches and thinking “ooh, let’s sway the public into liking our show again by hiring operatives to post on a SNARKY TELEVISION WEBSITE OF STEADILY DECLINING QUALITY!”
Paid shills are as old as showbiz itself. They used to be hired to sit in the theatre and applaud wildly or laugh hysterically. Now they are hired to post wildly enthusiastic posts on message boards. It’s not a conspiracy - it’s a common practice, actually.
I can’t blame them, either: If I had a crappy show that needed help, I’d hire a bunch of phony fans too. But I will call them as I see them.
Hey! I can reach across the aisle to JT on this one! TWOP started the long downhill slide once Bravo took over and they closed all the “Bitterness” threads. That precipitated my move here, where I can now look forward to pointing out Lost’s (and JT’s) inanities for at least two more years!
The only good thing TWoP has done lately is bring Daniel back to do the Lost recaps.
If you thought the foaming at the mouth on TWOP is bad, you should check out other forums like lost-forum. i guarantee spending more then 10 minutes there will make you physically ill.
I don’t know what to think, I liked it for it’s dramatic value and it seemed good while watching but I’ll reserve judgement until tomorrow. I like the time travel thing, wondering if Daniel had something to do with the creation of the island, or if the anomaly that is the island drew him to it. We see that an object traveling to the island is 31 minutes off, but going island to freighter it was what, a day or so? There’s some obvious issues with the island and the sci fi part is coming back. I don’t agree with the dialogue being cheesy and weak, I thought it was all integral to the mystery. I can’t say for sure now if this sucked, but I’m thinking if you nitpick at little things then it didn’t suck you’re just looking for things to pick on. I think the next 5 episodes will be interesting and the Oceanic 6 is totally revealed and I think the producers said the mystery of what happened will be revealed (not the whole enchilada just why the Oceanic 6 claim there were only 8 survivors). Anyway, I think I might just lurk here this week and next week I’ll be back home and have more critical analysis after the next episode.
CPT Preevyet relaxing in OK
If you fly to and from the island you enter the time rift but Ben was coming and going in a submarine……
How about a hovercraft, technically that is flying, but not very high. Does that enter the time rift? Jeesh.
what about a canoe? what if you were swimming? what if you were a shark?
what if you were flying a kite from the canoe? would the kite enter and not the canoe?
Holy Hell, what if a bird was chasing a fish?
Glad you are enjoying what sounds like much needed R & R!
I have to go out in the field for 3 days next week so I’m pampering at a residence inn tonight. Internet access and TV, I’m in heaven! Can’t wait to get home and watch the next episode on my 50″ tv instead of my laptop.
Interesting comments above, and think back to when Juliet travelled to the island on the sub, she was knocked out. Wonder if that is the secret to not going through time travel. It’s also interesting that now we know about the time issue, it sort of explains the Richard Alpert Character appearing to not have aged in relation to Ben.
Good luck in the field, bro.
Pointing out overacting and bad dialogue is not nitpicking. That stuff is important to the show. It’s right on the surface of how you communicate your story to an audience, and I’m just saying they should put more care into it.
I didn’t watch again. So they are ripping off Kurt Vonnegut now huh? Well, at least if they can’t write (they can’t) they can steal from someone who can. You know what they say, “plaguiarism is the best form of flattering someone who has way more tallent than you when you can’t write for shit and want to save your job and tv show from cancellation.”
It’s good that they revisited the whole Desmond thing though, given that it made no sense in the first place and by adding complexity to it, it simply verifies that this show will never, ever, ever be tied up.
Remember when the show was so much more simple? There were castaways on a haunted island with an iron giant and others who stole children, and this weird Scottish cum Irish guy in a hatch??
They could have gone with that for years, without even having to change sets.
Lost Fanboys are idiots. I wish I could see the demos and see 1. their average age and 2. their average education level attained, or better yet, their IQ.
before some fanboy says it, yes, my spelling is shit in the last post. I usually edit. I also have the flu, along with everyone in New York City it seems. The flu shot is for shit.
No, the flu shot is for flu. it has nothing to do with your bowel movement. ask your Doctor he’ll explain it to you.
You are amazing. Mark Twain and Jonathan Swift have nothing on you. Oh wait, you probably won’t cover those until Senior year, so I won’t spoil it for you.
Thats good. We were quite certain the High School still had a restraining order against you.
Evil, I gotta say I love your banter with this piece of crap fanboy, but really, why waste your time on this loser? I agree he is most likely some pimple-faced high schooler, as well as intellectually lacking. I humbly suggest that we leave this troll alone until he moves on elsewhere, just totally ignore him. He’ll go to a better place more suited for him, like sesamestreet.com
You would know the address of Sesame Street, freak…..
You are probably right Meister. I’ll leave the troll alone. He’ll probably get grounded for some reason soon and have his Thursday night TV priviledges taken away anyway, so we won’t have to deal with him in any case.
Jesus. The flu makes you bitter. I know you hate the show and people who like it, but do you have a Lost Fanboy voodoo doll that you play with occasionally? Did one have sex with your sister? You sound a little too pissed.
A voodoo doll is a fantastic idea. I will ask that native chief I saw Gilligan speaking to earlier about getting one.
I’m going to level with you and tell you that I loathe TV in general deep down. Most of the stuff on TV is crap, but having craplicious crap like “Lost” on TV simply steals a time slot from something that could be mediocre with a lot less attitude. Lost wasted a lot of my time pretending to be a good show, so yeah, it pissed me off, hence the WHY LOST SUCKS name of this website you continue coming to week after week after week while LIKING the show.
You seem like a good guy JT, but the whole purpose of this site is that LOST SUCKS so when I talk about LOST SUCKING, go figure.
Okay now let’s hug it out……
Ha! Nice reply, and point taken.
Hug it out, bitch. I enjoy your posts, so hopefully no harm done.
Peace!
Allright, couple things to think about, and unfortunately I don’t have the luxury of watching again online (takes too long and can’t fast forward as easily). First, is Danielle part of the black rock crew? I say no since she set up the radio communication that had been running for 17 years. But how long has she been there really? 17 years on the island could be about 100 years on the outside, so when did she crash on the island. She had her daughter on the island so it’s possible she’s been there a long time. Maybe I’m overreaching here but I think the time thing and Desmond are key elements of the island. But second item is Penny says she’s been searching for Desmond for 3 years, exactly how long he’s been gone, so why hasn’t he been gone for like 30 years? Just pondering.
The Dharma Initiative will actually turn out to be some type of “Time/Space Voyager Scientists.” The Island is some type of halfway station for the time travel adventures. Ben and the other rightwingers will turn out to be pirates of some description. remember when they grabbed Walt, they were sure acting like pirates. Some if not many on the island were the crew of the Black Rock or pirates that had stolen the ship. Faraday had probably gone backwards in time and had his time machine stolen. Someone from either the past or future has hidden some component or treasure on the island and thats what Ben was desperately looking for. Since the island exists in no one particular point in time and space that explains why the island didnt self-destruct when Locke set off the doomsday thing. The magnetic fields of the hatch would have kept it immune from the time travel phenomenalwhile the original occupants would have studied the surrounding events. Desmond seems to be doing a Slaughter House 5 / Jacobs Ladder thing. He may have been on the receiving end of a British Military experiment that has left him unstuck in time. Desmond is in one time dimension and Penny is in another. They only connect with the agreed upon phone call. Something that exists in both dimensions at once, a constant.
This guy is absolutely unrelentless. You will henceforth be shunned by the Turkey.
I’ve got no problems with J.K.’s theory (the sci-fi part; don’t care one way or the other about the political angle). Do you honestly believe the Lost writers will come up with something better? They have A TON of loose ends to wrap up, and they’re going to have to create one whopper of an explanation to make everything fit. Of course, this assumes that the show-runners are interested in doing such a thing. That’s highly debatable, since their typical modus operandi is to add a new mystery, get everybody all excited, and then allow said mystery to disappear down a rabbit hole while they introduce some new nonsense. Remember the children? Remember what a big and important mystery that was? Sure, they’re not as big a mystery as the origin of Jack’s tattoos (which the Lost promotion machine assured us was a “big mystery”), but they’ve dropped off the face of the earth just like so many other facets of the Lost canon.
Ok - divorced from the tiresome political angle, I grudgingly admit that it’s actually not a bad theory for two reasons: you’re right, it’s better than what the writers have come up with so far (in fact, perhaps a tad TOO clever) and secondly, because the show would actually IMPROVE if it knowingly veered into farce with the children coming back to do a “little orphan Annie” type tap-dance number on the freighter during the grand finale. It’s already pretty close to farce, except the writers don’t know it yet.
Generally agree with the comments above. The show was actually… ok, although the memento/Vonnegut inspired thread was full of holes (like how he so easily located Nerdboy at Oxford). Desmond is probably my favorite character and like RobbyLove(?), I was relieved that his time-travelling enduced psychosis will be limited to this episode. I do think they have boxed themselves into a corner with this plot thread because when others are transported to the freighter or outside the island time zone, consistency dictates that some of them experience what Desmond went through. I don’t expect the writers to follow through with this however. I also don’t look forward to those freighter goons making another appearance on the show. I also didn’t like the nonesense about Sayid managing to establish a phone connection with the UK… but whatever… All in all, this epi did delivery a satisfactory denouement to the Desmond-Penny storyline and it is one of the more compelling in the show because both actors are pretty good and the characters well developed, right brotha. That said, one half-decent epi doth not two seasons redeem.
“(like how he so easily located Nerdboy at Oxford).”
Okay, seriously, a lot of people have been complaining about this. What, would it have been better if they had actually shown him talking to a few people and searching for Daniel for a few minutes? That would have been…hm, five minutes of NOTHING HAPPENING, which is exactly what you people seem to hate. So please, stop calling this a “plot hole”, because in all actuality it was just used to move the plot forward more quickly.
It’s hard to notice stuff when your jaw’s lying on the floor, but this episode was really that good. Watching Desmond’s consciousness catapult back and forth across eight years of his life should’ve been confusing… it should’ve been way too crazy to follow, way too far out to make much sense to people. Yet when you think about it, the writers of LOST have been gently herding (Shepharding?) us along, building us up, preparing us for this exact moment for over three years now. All of the answers weren’t just thrust upon us simultaneously in one season (cough… Heroes!… cough…) as if we, the audience, were a bunch of eager simpletons impatiently banging the table for immediate answers before switching over to 24. No – the writers and producers of LOST really took their time telling this story. They told it with great sets, beautiful scenery, incredible writing, and deep characterization. And this is why it so totally rocks the balls off any other television show.
Wow. You must not get very much air in your parents’ basement. Have you finished slipcasing your comic books yet?
“They told it with great sets, beautiful scenery, incredible writing, and deep characterization. And this is why it so totally rocks the balls off any other television show.”
Thanks for the good laugh this morning fanboy!
“Yet when you think about it, the writers of LOST have been gently herding (Shepharding?) us along”
Nice to see you admit that the Lost fanboys are sheep.
I may be mistaken, but during season 1 when the audience was spectulating on what the true story was (and “the characters are in Perguratory” was a common theory), didn’t the show developers make the claim that “everything can be answered with normal science that can be found today”? If so, then I think that they swayed quite a bit since season one….
Foolish inconsistencies are the bread ‘n’ butter of Lost.
THANK YOU!!!! I’ve been saying this very thing all along.
In fact, it’s what made me think the show was so cool in the first place…that all these wierd things were, explainable by something other than “magic”.
Yes, the simpsons already explained the plot of Lost long ago:
“whenever you notice something like that…a wizard did it”
Oh remember the good old days when all the plausible theories were rejected out of hand by the writers, only to then realize the writers are liars?.. the chief lie being that they know where this show is going.
I’m going to say it again: this entire show is a practical joke being played on the public by the show’s creators. They saw Waiting for Godot in 7th Grade and never got over it and thought they should see if people really would wait around for an answer that won’t ever come.
Well I didnt write any of that by the way, I thought it was a nice thing to copy and paste though
Well, you know, its pretty sad what has happened around here. I was one of the original posters on this site…and I almost weep for those old days. We used to get it back then….lost sucks, period. Now, I read through these posts and I actually see people speculating on the future of the plot…WTF? There is no fucking plot. That point seems to have been lost somewhere. I hardly recognize the names, none of the people who made this site great around anymore. At least back in the day JT would get flamed constantly, now he has a little cult following. Lost sucks, never forget that. I weep for Nico, et. all.
P.s. we used to swear freely on this site, even that seems to be under attack. So, for all of you who have ruined a once great site: Go fuck yourselves. I hope you drink a big frothly glass of JJ’s splooge while he laughs all the way to the bank on your sophmoric asses. Fuck you all. Later
-Big Jim
You know BigJim, I have to comment that you seem to be a bit whiny on this latest post. Tyler didn’t make this site an exclusive club, so why are you complaining that there are new posters? I agree, some, like Joe Kellog are really annoying, but some others have been creative, amusing, humorous and intelligent. Don’t be intimidated by change. This site is not ruined as you claim. Lighten up, it’s all in fun.
Mrs. Meister
BigJim - Stick around for a while. We need all the help we can get around here. Feel free to swear all the fuck you want, just like old times!
A tear trickled down BigJim’s cheek as he stared gloomily at his computer monitor. It was as he feared. It was over. All over. JT had usurped the site, using his hypnotic rhetoric and inspirational pro-Lost posts to convert the huddled masses of the web site from Lost haters to pitiful, deranged, babbling, incoherent fanboys. Sheep, he thought bitterly. Pathetic little sheep.
“FUCKING FANBOY!” The words, pouring out of BigJim’s snarling mouth in a guttural roar, did little to soothe his fury. Nothing did anymore. His liberal use of profanity — it did nothing. His treasured list of reasons why Lost sucks — which he keeps tucked away in a secret wallet compartment, to read when he’s lonely — is nothing but empty words.
And even the picture of J.J. Abrams — the one he had drawn a mustache and devil horns on, oh how he had laughed and laughed at that — failed to make him smile.
Even Nico was gone.
“God, I miss him so fucking much,” BigJim whispered. “So much. I miss them all.”
BigJim, we love you. Ha! I’m kidding. I mean, someone loves you. I don’t. Your post about drinking JJ’s splooge was really clever, though. Way to go on that one!
sad little fanboy trying to be witty.
Aw. Put down that penis sandwich and let’s have a hug!
Look at how funny I am! I just implied that mrmonkey is really a homosexual who craves penis sandwiches! Isn’t that funny!?
see my post above
I’ll bet JT was really rubbing one off while he typed up his little post. “This’ll show ‘em!,” he thought.
Dude, you’re a pathetic little douchebag. Go on back to the pro-Lost sites where all you dipshit fanboys daisy-chain each other over how great Lost is.
Your masturbation post was excellent, and really does an outstanding job in putting me in my place. BURN! As for whether or not I was indeed pleasuring myself as I wrote my little tale, I’ll leave that one up in the air. A little mystery, if it will. It was certainly a good question to raise on your part, and I commend you for it. Very, very well done.
Your remark that I am a pitiful little douchebag is both cutting and hurtful. Ouch. Nice one. Please don’t hurt me with your scary words. I am sorry that my original post made you literally go poopy in your pants.
Another brilliant post from fanboy JT! You see how he pretends to roll over, while at the same time making cutting remarks? Absolutely brilliant! Your IQ must be off-the-charts high!
Really. Stay tuned for after the next episode when I expand upon my, “Locke is really Dick Cheney” theory.
There are a lot of good free blog hosts, and web hosts out there for you to promote your theory. Maybe you can make some diagrams and charts too to spruce it up too. However it’s getting tiring reading about it here.
Monkeys are funny, want a banana?
Sayid allowed Desmond to be taken below deck by two tattooed thugs with overbites and then handed over his gun?
Character integrity?
…BTW:(I loved when that thug actor in the tank top got his head bashed in by the campfire in 3:10 to Yuma). Goofy overbite. They just don’t make Cary Grants anymore…
Sayid then made a phone from a shower-head and a Coleco Vision joystick.
Come on!
Desmond tracks down the ugly version of Oliver Bloom and wins his trust by telling him to adjust his flux-capacitator.
We were all awed that the rat ran the maze because…? Because of violin shrieks (suspense)!
Believeability?
Another idiotic piece of shit. The entire time-travel ruse is a matter of convenience. The human mind simply cannot grasp this fourth dimension (otherwise we’d be even more nuts) and we cannot make sense of the concept, and neither can the writers because if they could and we could we’d see that Desmond did tell ugly Lagolas to tune his flux capacitator and the whole episode would never had happened. Now that would have been something to praise.
By the way, nobody on the freighter seemed to give two damns about dead Naomi on the chopper even though she was supposedly their mission leader. You’d think they’d be asking “How’d she die!?” or “Who killed her!?,” but why bother with character traits like inquisitiveness or loyalty. Instead, we are treated to another dose of incompetence as the “guards” leave all their prisoners alone to trade info, plot & plan, make phone calls, etc. etc.
Not only did they not inquire about about Naomi, but the ship and the people on it seemed to have nothing in common with the people they sent on the island (except for the pilot). The people on the island seemed to come from some sort of secret and possibly scientific organization, yet the people on the ship are just nothing more than your average sweaty goons. The ship itself was a shithole even for freighter standards.
Also they had top of the line satelite phones when they came to the island, yet their communications on the ship looked like a bunch of Commodore 64s bundled together. I didn’t see how they could possible launch a rocket from there either.
Good catch on that Naomi bit. But I guess these stock characters are no different from props or scenery so they can’t “react”; they simply occupy space. At least we can be grateful that they will probably dispatch these characters in quick succession.
Did they drop her body in the sea? I can’t remember seeing her perky tight buttocks under a shroud on deck.
Maybe they Spocked her, like Wrath of Khan, and she’ll come back as her own island of eden.
Good post Laurent, I loved the Coleco Vision/showerhead comment!
Does “sucks” still mean “is bad”, “is inferior”, “is terrible”, and “fucking blows”?
Just wanted to make sure it doesn’t mean “rocks”, “rules”, “kicks ass” and “is sweet”.
One could get confused here this season.
Sucks still means is inferior to me. Yup, this is whylostsucks.com
That’s one of the perils of being #1 in Google. Although I still wonder if they love the show so much why they are searching on the term “lost sucks”.
It’s because they love Lost so much, they truly want everyone else in TV land to love it, too. When people don’t love Lost, they feel their own love being diminished and they begin to feel sad. This site makes them sad. Or . . . it makes them doubt whether Lost is, in fact, truly worthy of their love. It’s all faith-based. Or cosmic, like, well, the island. Or both — as in we’re supposed to have faith that something in this show one day will actually make sense, and those whose love the show will be redeemed. Maybe the island is a dsytopic Eden. If so, Kate is Eve? And Sawyer . . . the apple???
Exactly. You’re supposed to have faith the show has a point, and if you’re young, seeking an intellectual outlet, and not too skeptical, you see enough signal in the noise that tells you this show will pay off. But it won’t, and I think most of the pissed fanboys are starting to realize it won’t end in any kind of coherent theory– the formulation of which is really what made the show good. And I think their realization is really starting to make them defensive.
Forgive me, I just got out of forecasting class, but Lost is White Noise, with mean 0 and variance = some huge number. Geek joke.
Ugh, this week’s episode is going to be a Juliet flashback/forward/sideways/whatever. I HATE Juliet.
You mean Miss Botox Clown Smiles? Her, with the permanent joker’s grin? The one who thought a permanent pout is really sexy, because men really want to see a women with a constant look that says, “I really want that $1,500 handbag with some long dead designer’s initial on it”.
Brilliant. F-ing american chicks. Even their facial surgery conveys the urge/need to shop for soul southing.
What? You got rejected by an American Lady now you hate all of them? Soothing is spelled with two “o’s.” Southing is a word that only rightwingers use to refer to themselves. It means, “someone that is not smart enough to vote.” Southers usually end up stuck on islands looking for banana’s and TV Guides.
Feed troll feed!
Pedantry feeds the beast.
Pull my finger.
How many times do you need to imply in your posts that you’re a democrat before someone tells you that this site is about a TV show that sucks?
What number are we on now?
just a little aside but Juliet, Charlotte and Penelope all seem to have the same look/figure. I reallly don’t like any of their characters but they’re still worth a shag :embarassed:
Glad to see that the writers have things so well in hand that they can waste an hour on a tertiary character.
Within the next 5 weeks there will be a “good Spock/bad Spock” episode. There is also a distinct possibility that the show will have a “Twin Peaks” ending. In “Twin Peaks” the last episode has a little banner that comes up and says “This is the last episode, you are a fucking idiot, go outside and get some air, Thank You.”
Post away JT, it’s all good.
Did anyone else have a problem with the rat’s brain short-circuiting because “she couldn’t tell the difference” between the two times? Wouldn’t having a constant also make it harder to tell the difference, and therefore short circuit Desmond’s brain?
Desmonds brain was short circuiting, thats why his nose was bleeding and thats why the other guy from sick bay croaked. We know its tough but try and keep up.
No - you try to keep up, dipshit. In Desmond’s case, his brain is short circuiting because he needs to contact his constant - HE IS FLUCTUATING BETWEEN TWO RADICALLY DIFFERENT TIMES WHERE NOTHING IS THE SAME.
Eloise’s brain short circuits because, according to a direct quote from Faraday, “she couldn’t tell the difference.” SHE WAS FLUCTUATING BETWEEN TWO TIMES WHERE EVERYTHING WAS CONSTANT.
Do you see the problem yet? In one case, CONSTANT=SHORT CIRCUIT, in the other, NO CONSTANT=SHORT CIRCUIT.
Additionally, FISHER STEVENS=ACTOR FROM THE MOVIE “SHORT CIRCUIT”
Love Lost most of the time….read this site for laughs and to relieve frustration….but….
The Constant is the WORST EPISODE EVER!
Full of holes….it felt like it was half-written when they started filming it
If you’re gonna mess with a concept like time travel, you’d better have that shit down to a science.
Case in point: the rat died because it “had no constant.” HUH? it only traveled 1 hour….never left the maze, or the room, or Faraday….EVERYTHING was a constant!
Excellent point. You should try bringing it up at the fuselage and watch people twist themselves into knots while trying to enlighten you.
yes. I agree, that is the worst episode of lost, the turning point from where there is no return. time travel? in 2008 how cop-out is time travel?
what a ridiculous concept: your mind start to travel through time, and when you find your constant it stops. oh my fucking god. of course, LOVE is the thing that overcomes the electromagnetic and time travel anomalies. what a cliché “i love you, i love you too, I find you”
absolute 10/10 on the suck-o-meter
The Fuselage is a joke. I’ve never seen so many annoying losers in one place. Those people gripe and bitch every hour of every day for years about this TV show. There is no way that they could have meaningful jobs or lives while spending so much time on a message board dedicated to a TV show. If you want to experience the world of societal worthlessness, visit The Fuselage.