The sun doesn’t rise
You know I have a feeling some people might actually have liked that episode, but frankly - it sucked. It jumped around way to much from the boat, the beach, the past, the future, blah blah. The whole flash forward/backward scheme was just a lame writers trick. They even rolled out Bernard for this POS! Ya, we found out about Michael, but we all knew that last week. So we know the Oceanic 6 - yawn. Did anyone really care about the Oceanic 6? Show me who Jacob is or why the smoke monster can’t go over the fence and I’ll be impressed. It just felt like another filler episode to click off until the mid-season last episode. 8 out 10 on the suck-o-meter
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Like beating a dead horse… and about as interesting.
I hope to soon achieve your level of ambivalence…
nah. this was a tear jerker
I am actually angry at the lameness of this episode. Two-thirds of it was bullshit As The World Turns soap opera crap, and the rest was same ol’ same ol’ Lost pretentiousness.
So I was really looking forward to write another “I’m typing this as I’m watching it post”… but GOD DAMN THIS IS TOO FUCKING BORING.
Fuck this show, I’m outta here.
Thanks for the laughs… (long time reader, only just started posting recently, but fuck me if I’m ever watching this crap again…)
I was looking forward to that too. It was nice knowing someone was noticing the same dogshit at every single beat of the episode.
JJ Abrams should be brought up on charges. What garbage. And there is nothing COMPLEX about this show. It’s written by a bunch of second stringers from THE PARKING LOT, you PEOPLE!!!!!!!
What is more surprising, is that everyone here continues to watch this CRAP. That is, except for the chap who just posted. I’d like everyone here to stop watching this garbage right now. That’s right. Just stop. It seems the webmaster is hooked, so let’s let HIM waste HIS time devoting God only knows how much time, energy, fancy graphics etc etc to this lame-ass Hollywood PAP for the masses.
Think about it. Those FUCKING BASTARDS are getting rich off all this attention. And THEN it goes into syndication (reruns) FOREVER.
FOREVER LOST.
What Crappy programming we have been led into? Since we don’t have the BALLS to boycott the Iraq war, let’s all Boycott ABC and all their SHIT PROGRAMMING RIGHT NOW.
I would rate this entire program (except for the first episode) 110% on the Shitometer.
Why haven’t you completely shit canned this TURKEY Mr. Webmaster? Huh??? Your constituents who support you want to know.
What a bunch of crap this episode was. More filler, no new information. Already knew it was Widmore’s boat. Already knew Michael was on the boat. Already knew pregnant chicks die on the island.
I was sincerely pissed when Kate told Sun she would have to tell Jack that they left. Um, when the fuck did Jacob die and make Jack king of the island??
I’m usually a lurker cuz I can go either way on this show. I’m willing to give it the benefit of the doubt - it’s hard work writing a complex yet popular show with an audience that spans die-hard fans and first-time viewers every episode.
Unfortunately I can’t defend this show anymore; at least not based on this episode. At first I thought it was cool that Zoe (the chick from Tarantino’s Death Proof and Kill Bill who jumped in the water with the chains) was in it but then she died.
Overall though I have no idea what happened in that episode and that truly does suck. It’s one thing to stay loyal to the flashback theme for 3 seasons, I was even intrigued by them flashing foward for a minute but both at the same time!?!?
This show does not make any sense - not in general terms but within its own timeslot.
I’m just confused now - where the hell are we? huh? married for two months? huh ? Jin is dead now? wait Jen is dead then?
How bout you guys just get to the point - maybe just one of them, any one of them. No!? All that for that nugget of a revelation that Michael - oops Kevin - is on the ship? Or maybe that it’s Whidmore’s boat? Or that you can’t trust the captain - well who can you trust?
Half way through I stopped reading the subtitles cuz I frankly don’t give a shit about how Jin and Sun feel about each other - isn’t that bullshit obvious!? It’s a good thing Jin learned english otherwise I might have missed the revelation that he loves his cheating ass pregnant wife - especially since they’re stranded on an island - now that is true virtue.
Sorry Losties - I have officially gone to the dark side - this show is a waste of HD. I think the suck-o-meter was soft on this one I would rate it 100% grade A SUCK. Prime Suck. Oceanic Suck.
*cuz I frankly don’t give a shit about how Jin and Sun feel about each other - isn’t that bullshit obvious!? *
precisely. once again, a retread of things we already knew and saw in season 1, and season 2, and season 3…
When I saw that Zoe was in the show, I thought - oh, a cool stunt is going to happen.
She jumps off the ship wrapped in a chain. They cut between like three angles of the fall.
Are we supposed to know who Zoe is—or even care? First she’s reading a book upside down (OMYGOD WHAT BOOK WAS SHE READING!!?? DOES ANYONE HAVE A SCREENCAP!!??), then she kills herself. Color me indifferent.
i wish jj abrams’s mom was on that island when she was pregnant.
HAHAHA. brilliant!
seriously that is one of the funniest comments i’ve ever read on any of the message boards
Okay, so here in HST time zone I’m 10 minutes into this episode and the conversation that just took place between Sun and Kate has to be one of the worst bits of forced dialogue in television history.
“why did she hit you?”
“why did Juliette lie to Jack?”
“why do all of our fellow Losties on the island often act in ways that are totally inconsistent both with our established characters and the way that normal humans would act in general?”
Worst line: “They’ve talked about doing alot of things… (pause for effect and to crank up the melodramatic tone)…but SAVING US HASN’T BEEN ONE OF THEM”
my thoughts exactly…I wish I could be funny or clever here, but words fail me. after the first 15 minutes (of which 12 sucked and the other 3 were commercials) I stopped watching.
tyler, I think you’re being too generous, this was bad. the dialogue was awful, and it all made me wonder how I ever thought the writing was good (did I ?!?!?!) I know they want to give Jin and Sun some good screen time, but it was so forced, it added nothing!!
I tuned back in at the end and saw that Jin apparently dies in the future (present?), and Sun named the daughter that name he wanted, isn’t that sweet?!?! I expected a rousing ‘awwwwwwwwww’ from the studio audience.
as recently as last week, I thought I’d keep watching even though I knew I was being swindled…last night’s epi killed whatever remaining interest I had in seeing it through.
Well I didn’t see this episode, but the suck-o-meter at 9.9?! well that shows me something right there good thing i was out fucking around in the yard
And I suppose the whole “one person is having a flashback, one person is having a flashforward” is what passes for clever in Abrams/Darlton world?
Do you think they actually sat around slapping each other on the back in a congratulatory manner in between smelling their own farts the day they came up with that one?
I’m sure that the Lost writers got way more enjoyment out of writing the episode than any non-fanboy viewer got in watching it. For them it was like a writing exercise—”alternate between flashforwards and flashbacks for two separate characters but have the audience think that they are sharing the same time frame.”
Just another cheap PSYCH! moment from the fuckhead show-runners. Total crap.
It seems that the show writers have gone from using devices like the flash forwards/backs as a means to add something interesting to the story telling, to just using them as a device to go “Gotcha! Haha! Bet you didn’t see that coming!” Season 4 of Lost is almost like watching some lame version of the Twilight Zone, where they try to end every episode with some sort of “twist”.
The story does not really advance very much, the whole episode is just filler leading up to the “Gotcha!” at the end (examples: Sayid is an assassin working for Ben, Desmond is Faradays “time travelling connection”, Jin is dead)
excellent point Parrot. I think they simply do that to give the fanboys on the fuselage something to splooge their pants over because they can longer offer any real entertainment
This episode was mostly about camera tricks, and pandering to a stupid audience. Did you like how the note on the paper was written in block letters so we could read it at home??? And, wow, wasn’t that tricky how we thought Jin was rushing to the hospital as Sun was about to give birth, except that . . . oh, gee, it was another time frame! They sure got us on that one, didn’t they? Nope. Cheap point of view trick, nothing more. But a good way to distract us from hearing Sayid and Desmond actually get some relevent info from THE CAPTAIN THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO TRUST. (Those caps are for people who needed big letters in the show to read the note). Once again, though, a conversation with the captain featuring questions no one would really ask, or, rather, avoid asking, in real life. Yes, I get that this is not a documentary, but reasonable characters would reasonably want reasonable information upon which to act or resolve reasonable hopes, fears, worries, etc. Except on this idiotic show. And, come on, who among you were not rooting for Sun to beat that bitch with a stick when she sat down beside her? Since it’s Lost, of course, all we got was more insipid dialogue. And this hour was a complete waste. As usual. And now we know Sun dies, two years before the show even ends, (unless, mercifully, ABC just gives up, too, and pulls the plug, in which we’ll see CC and JJ handing pamphlets on Sunset Boulevard with all the answers to all the mysteries of the island and its fucked up inhabitants. I take one, and drop it in the nearest trash receptacle, and walk on.).
would’ve been more interesting (albeit more gay) if it said DON’T TRYST WITH THE CAPTAIN…would at least make me wonder if michael had gone all “OZ” again during his undercover work.
Why are people hating on the flahsfoward/flashback?
I didn’t think it was “clever”, persay, just a good way to make an entertaining episode. You’re led to believe one thing, and then you realize at the end that the total opposite is true. It was a good plot twist.
How does that qualify as “plot” ? Yes, it is “twist” but there is certainly no plot. So Jin was going to the hospital to suck up to some big wig who will never be seen again. So all the time wasted on that story thread had virtually nothing to do with anything. We would have gained just as much if Jin’s flashback had been him sitting on the toilet for half an hour.
I am sure the Losties will like it. My wife (Mrs Meister) even did. I thought it was cheap crap. If the show actually told us something, I would have enjoyed it, but is was just useless filler and misdirection.
This bit of misdirection was great in a movie like Silence of the Lambs where you’re not expecting it (you think the FBI is busting in on Jame Gumm’s house but it turns out that Clarice is the one who has to confront him), but it’s just absolutely LAME in Lost because they keep pulling the same thing over and over and over and over and over…
…and to repeat what I just said 2 comments above, misdirection when it’s pertinent to the plot can be a useful vehicle for injecting suspense. In this case, the misdirection was no payoff - Once again, writer’s go to their formula - Premise without resolution…
i hated it because it added nothing to the story, and just as i agreed with parrot above, it only feels like the writers are pulling this shit out of nowhere in season 4 just to throw the fanboys a bone and give them something to talk about and sing their praises to high heaven about how brilliant the writing team is
I haven’t watched yet, but…
Won’t somebody think about the children?!?
The dirty, yet obvious, secret about the children is that Hurley ate them in Season Three.
By the way, along with the topic of unanswered questions or unrevealed information, shouldn’t Locke have taken his fellow survivors to see the pit where Ben hid the bodies of the Dharma people he murdered? Of course, but that’s just one more thing the writers don’t care about. And regarding people never mentioning the children, I’d add to that how no one ever mentions the four-toed statue, either. So, if we get an explanation of its significance later on, the phony part of its place in the show has already been established.
Why would Locke do that…what purpose would it serve?
Well, it might convince any doubters that Ben is a psychopathic murderer and make them realize that Ben must die. I’d like to say it would also explain to the beach peeps what happened to the Dharma crowd, but since no one ever asks, I presume it means they couldn’t care less, anyhow. I just really hoped for some “Lottery” treatment of Ben, maybe with coconuts, instead of rocks.
‘the lottery’?? wow…they really are targeting 9th grade lit
Speaking of the children, if Sayid doesn’t ask Michael what happened to Walt, I am fucking done with this show once and for all.
Sayid: “Michael, what happened to Walt?”
Pick your answer:
Michael: “It is best that you do not know.”
Michael: “The answer is a little complicated”
Michael: “We don’t have time for that now.”
Michael: “Look! A three-headed monkey!”
To which Sayid answers, “Okay.”
They mentioned the children last episode.
lol.
I enjoy criticism when it means something but you’re criticising them not raising a point which was actually raised.
ooo, the “mentioned” the children! Love the continuity! The writers really ARE geniuses.
Blog-X says that in keeping with its “Lost is allegorious to the Bush-America theme” they made a new revealation. The descendents of the Black Rock crew are the “others” as are the descendents of the people that staggered upon Plymouth Rock the forefathers of the current menagerie. Notice the clever use of the word “Rock.” Of course there are no more “Others” as they have all been eaten by the smoke monster. No? then how many did you see on last nights episode? Jin buying the panda bear twice may surpass Ben’s ham dinner as useless waste of viewing time. It was dissapointing however that Sun’s baby was not born with four toes on each foot instead of five. An eight toed japanese baby would have explained a lot of things about the island. We were very happy that Michael got a new job as a deck hand on the “Flying Dutchman.” wooo hooo way to go Michael………..
*It was dissapointing however that Sun’s baby was not born with four toes on each foot instead of five. An eight toed japanese baby would have explained a lot of things about the island.*
I’m curious, when they finally reveal that mystery, which toe will be missing?? smart money is obviously on the pinky toe, but in a true ‘plot twist’, don’t be surprised when it turns out the BIG TOE is missing and all the others were promoted!!!!
This is my favourite Lost revelation EVAR. Now this show is entirely worthwhile and I will be a fan again.
That… uhm… that’s really that’s going to happen, right? Right?? My own toes are tingling in anticipation.
“Jin buying the panda bear twice may surpass Ben’s ham dinner as useless waste of viewing time.”
Yeah, what the fuck was that? When Jin got his cab swiped I thought “Jesus Christ, now the Dhamra Initiative is stealing stuffed pandas? How is this bit of ridiculousness going to be bolted onto the mythology?” But now it looks like he just lost a cab. So it’s back to the store for another go at a panda (OMYGOD!! WHO DO YOU THINK HAD THAT SECOND PANDA ON LAYAWAY!!?? COULD IT BE JACOB!!??) and more Lost filler.
You know, I am beginning to actually get bored watching the show. I mean REALLY bored. The is nearly no continuity from one episode to the next. For example, if you swapped out this garbage episode for the one last week, would anything really have mattered? One week you are with Locke, then Jack, then Sayid, then blah blah blah…..
I loved introducing the suicide chick and then killing her off in 5 minutes flat, that was a new record! Usually they make it till the end (see Mikul-whatever from a couple weeks ago). I also loved the note from Michael, apparently written in crayon by a third grader.
Best part was watching Juliet’s stunning, expressionless acting with her dirty face highlighting her bony cheeks. I actually cheered when Sun slapped her
“I actually cheered when Sun slapped her ”
Same here.
Back to suicide chick. So we learn from the captain that cabin fever has taken over the ship. Okay, I get it. Then when Sayid and Des are shown their quarters, we see a big bloodstain on the wall where somebody blew his brains out. Thanks again writers! We already KNOW that cabin fever has taken over the ship, you don’t have to make the same point twice! Idiots.
Okay, I have to argue this…the blood on the wall was a way to get Michael, Sayid and Desmond face to face.
Yes, it was “a way” to get them together, but they are all isolated on a ship! There was no other way for the writers to put them together w/o rehashing an earlier plot point? Me thinks not.
there could have been a big poop log on the floor
“CLEAN UP THIS SHIT KEVIN!!!”
“Guys, meet Kevin, he’s our new shit cleaner.”
how many shows are there in which the majority of the main characters do not make an appearance in each episode? virtually none. it’s silly. there’s a lost video game now. players take the role of a new character that was on the plane that we’ve never even heard of. i have to give the writers credit for setting up a show where characters can disappear and appear at will, but god that is shitty. what do all the plane crash victims do while the “stars” are punching and screaming at each other?! i know they’re not supposed to matter, but they are present after all. sort of. about as present as some of the main characters these days.
from a review of that game…
“[the LOST game] is ultimately bogged down by a lack of action”
…no shit!
What I like is how there are still survivors from the flight we’ve never met on camera. All those apparently uninteresting background people. Are they all dying one by one? Who are they? Won’t Jack let them speak??? Or is he afraid they’ll bed one of his chicks? To me, for the first season and a half, that was the stupidest thing in the show — the other survivors being completely ignored. Because the reason for it was so obvious: if they speak, they must be paid.
I was also thinking the show started off on one premise–those background people would mill around, participate in events peripherally, occasionally get promoted speaking roles, occasionally be blown up and killed off. But then the writers wandered off into the tail section and the Others and the Other Others and the Other Other Others and Desmond and Penny and everyone else, and don’t have any interest in their old toys.
Also, they’re making this up as they go along.
There was already a Lost video game, it was called MYST.
In other news, however, I do have to argue this point about the main characters not appearing in each show, and in general the theme of having ‘too many’ characters. Maybe it’s just due to me being a fan of literature over TV, but epic novels with dozens if not hundreds of charcters really flesh out a story and give it life. (think ‘Infinite Jest’ or ‘War and Peace’)
If anything, having too few characters ruined the believability of this show. With 40 something castaways, we’re supposed to be believe that CRAZY MIND BOGGLING SHIT happens to a handful of them, constantly, while the others are just sitting around counting grains of sand?
Think of how ‘Lord of the Flies’ handled this castaway situation. (Go back and read it if you have the time, it’s brilliance is wasted on the middle and high school mind) Two of the most pivotal characters in the book barely spoke and only had a couple pages devoted to them.
It’s not necessary to have a character’s entire backstory along with his favorite color and ice cream flavor revealed in order for him to have a pivotal and weighty effect on the story. Not to mention, think of the time that is wasted with Jin buying 2 pandas and other filler.
The problem is, and it pretty much explains EVERYthing horrible that happens from a writing standpoint, you can’t write an epic story and keep track of 100 characters if you’re making it up as you go along. I mean, it’s IMPOSSIBLE, even for the most talented of writers. Even with the most bizarre of post-modern works (again ‘Infinite Jest’ or any number of Vonnegut novels) the author had a outline of what is going to happen from beginning to end.
Even though we’re all pretty much saying ‘Lost Sucks (now)’ I don’t agree that the show not following a traditional storyline and methodology (rising action –> climax etc) is what made it suck, and i’d even go as far as to say this is what made it great at first. Unfortunately, you can’t accidentally stumble into trying to make a post-modern masterpiece and then blindly flail your way through to the end.
fair points…they supposedly did envision the other 40 or so survivors to possibly become regular characters - which is allowed them to kill off so many in the first season or two - which was great!
that experiment died with nikki and paulo (?). of course, as you said, they’ve also wasted a lot of air time on repetetive flashbacks and trekking through the jungle.
This episode was 95% close-ups. I might have to start counting to entertain myself. There is NOTHING happening but CONVERSATION. The show doesn’t even LOOK remotely interesting anymore.
Jin lets us know that he can understand english better than he can speak. That will certainly allow for more close-ups of Jin listening and understanding other people’s CONVERSATIONS on the island. Then he can go on adding cute comments in broken english when he doesn’t have anything important to say. He can also go on having entire CONVERSATIONS with Sun in Korean until its time to say something important, at which point he will say it in English to his Korean speaking wife.
Bernard suddenly wants to go fishing with Jin. Great. He happens to be the only other husband on the island. They have a CONVERSATION in a boat, which looks nothing like the skiff Kate and Sawyer took over from the other island. Jin catches a fish and decides that he should forgive his wife for banging a bald guy, because he deserves it, as he used to be an dick when he was a cool character on a good show called LOST.
The captain of the boat is “cuts to the chase” in his CONVERSATION with Sayid and Desmond. “Hehe - Hey, these orders come directly from Charles Widmore.”
“Sorry, did you say Charles Widmore?”
“Yeah, that’s right.”
Let’s see, how should we have Des find out that Penny’s father is in charge of the boat operation? Just have the captain bring it up in CONVERSATION, and in the next scene we’ll justify him being surprisingly forthcoming when the Doc and Sayid have a CONVERSATION about how the captain “was surprisingly forthcoming.”
Michael is a Janitor on the boat. His name is…. something JOHNSON. Whatever.
They tricked us with a series of flashbacks and flashforwards that were supposed to appear related but weren’t. Jin was wearing a wig.
Hurley shows up at Sun’s apartment on his way back from the Adult Video Awards ceremony.
“Bernard suddenly wants to go fishing with Jin. Great. He happens to be the only other husband on the island. They have a CONVERSATION in a boat, which looks nothing like the skiff Kate and Sawyer took over from the other island. Jin catches a fish and decides that he should forgive his wife for banging a bald guy, because he deserves it, as he used to be an dick when he was a cool character on a good show called LOST.”
How dumb was this scene? It’s like the writers said, “Bernard hasn’t had anything to do in, like, forever, so let’s put him on a boat with Jin and let him play Dr. Phil for about two and a half minutes. Jin will be like putty in his hands as he appreciates the wisdom of the elderly American, and we’ll have burned off a few more minutes of show-time. It’s win-win!”
Regarding the close-ups: I am terrible at picking out who has had plastic surgery, but even I could recognize the Botox on Juliet. Her forehead is absolutely smooth, and her eyebrows barely move. She’s got the same kind of frozen-clown face as Nicole Kidman, so I’ve gotta wonder how she feels about the eps when she gets one long lingering close-up after another. Last night was so over-the-top that it bordered on parody.
“He can also go on having entire CONVERSATIONS with Sun in Korean until its time to say something important, at which point he will say it in English to his Korean speaking wife.”
The whole episode i was scratching my head over this. Who would really start speaking another language that they aren’t fluent in, especially when it’s some sort of meaningful conversation. The writers of this show have to be the biggest tools around.
when did they get this boat?! why don’t they try to use it to get the f off that island instead of male bonding (”we’re not married!”)
I liked it. Pick on the dialogue or acting all you want, this was a good information episode. To those in PDT and HDT zones, my apologies for last night’s posts, but I don’t think it ruined anything, did it? What was the point of the Jin flashback? Not sure, something to do with Pandas. Sun got off the island, Jin died on the island or stayed, who knows. I don’t read Korean but I do read numbers and Jin was 6 years older than Sun (b 1974, Sun b 1980). Again, not a revelation. Most interesting piece was the captain. Now think about it, Michael we assume is working for Ben, did he slip the note? Ben doesn’t want Widmore there, so of course if Michael (aka Kevin Johnson) sent the note he’ll say don’t trust him. Captain spills the beans about the flight data recorder, insinuates that Ben planted the plane to keep the people on the island. Why does the crew seem indiffirent about the survivors? Wouldn’t they be happy to see them? Anyway, I’m not sure Sun is the 5th or 6th survivor, we have 1 Jack, 2 Kate, 3 Hurley, 4 Sayid, 5 Sun, and is 6 Aaron? Or is there another survivor? Are we to assume Claire is one of the two who didn’t survive with Jin, giving birth so Kate takes baby and takes care of it for her? I like the direction the show is going, and yes there were as always things that sucked about the episode, but I think this season will be much better in the end. Ok, flame on everyone (and where is JT?)
CPT Preevyet
The date on Jin’s tombstone supposedly correlates with the date that Oceanic went down. Make of that what you will, but it’s still a coin-flip as to whether Jin is really dead. Since this is Lost, and since the writers love to pull this kind of shit to make themselves look clever, I would put cash money down that Jin is alive.
Also don’t think this was a good information episode because the only juicy stuff comes from the captain—who may or may not be lying (just live every other Lost character).
Lots of soap opera + more disinformation = another crappy episode
Typo: just LIKE every other Lost character
when the show first revealed that a (not ‘the’) plane wreckage had been discovered, my buddy and I thought “so what did they do? stage a plane crash?!?!”
and we thought even that was too absurd. confirmation that a crash was faked is just way too ridiculous for my tastes (and my tastes aren’t THAT sophisticated!)
Right. And how on God’s green Earth would they be able to “procure” the flight data recorder? Governments don’t just give out evidence from plane crashes. Every last component is stored and analyzed for years. Are we supposed to assume that they stole it? Very insulting to the viewer’s intelligence.
Yeah, I like the idea that some crazy billionaire dragooned 340 people, strapped them into a plane, and deliberately crashed it just as a red herring. This makes 9/11 conspiracy theories sound sane and reasonable.
Yeah. No such thing as DNA testing in 2004? The show just gets more and more insulting. Don’t trust the captain? No, don’t trust that the writers could find their own cornhole without a map.
particularly since upon hearing about a plane being lost at sea and never recovered, most people I’m guessing would think: “hmmm, the ocean is a fucking pretty big place to try and find it, so no surprise it was never recovered”.
not “hmmm, prove it or else I’ll have to assume the plane went down on a mysterious island I’ve never heard of and that’s otherwise invisiblt to the rest of the world”
thus, why would one even NEED to fake it? if whidmore has the resources to FIND a fake plane crash, certainly he has the resources to determine it’s a fake!!!
Holy steaming pile, Batman!
Jin’s English is better than most people on the island and they’ve been there for, what, two months? Pure laziness by the writers.
We find out Michael’s the spy on the boat as fanboys everywhere spontaneously and involuntarily ejaculate in their pants.
Juliette’s saddlebags looked especially wide in this episode. If she was hot perhaps we could forgive her for having the most absurdly monotone delivery in show business.
Kate was only in the episode for about 5 minutes but still managed to add to the suckage…and scrunch her face (the extent of her acting skills). The worst lines are reserved for her. “They’ve said a lot of things but…” (reaches for barf bag)
Jack’s medical prowess has degenerated to the point that when he encounters a pregnant woman, who probably needs constant pre-natal care, does he examine her? No. He asks her how she is doing, and that’s it. Now THAT is practicing medicine, bro! Shit, even I can do that! I’ve renamed myself Dr. RobbyLove. Let me begin my practice by asking everyone how they are doing. (Nod…Nod) Yes, hmmm, ok, good. Payment in cash, please.
Jin dies, huh? Awesome. Can we start the killing off of characters NOW? The morbidity of that might actually make this steaming pile viewable again. Then again, Kate and Jack DO survive so I’m not going to get my hopes up.
I loved how the writers tried to build tension with Sun’s pregnancy when she went in to labor. She gets all panicked and says to the operator that something is wrong. Excuse me, but a woman who has been pregnant for 8 or 9 months has had Braxton-Hicks contractions prior to this that feel very similar to the real thing. The body is practicing for labor. She’d KNOW these were contractions. But the writers are so intellectually lazy that they think we’ll miss smacktarded incidents like that. “This will build the drama right away. Ooooh!” ‘Tards.
Not quite up to the suck-ass standards of last week’s masterpiece, but it still had all the required elements.
-Robby, aka Dr. Love
Dr. Love,
You are totally right about Sun and the labor pains… lazy, lazy. Also proving the writers have never had children is the fact that the Dr. gives her some pain meds and then she some how is conscious but losses all memory and hallucinates and begins calling for Jin. I have had pain meds with two kids and remember everything. I also love the fact that the Dr. says that natural labor will be near impossible with these drugs and then goes on to deliver naturally.. how stupid.
I don’t think that the crash was faked, I think that was a made up story told to the crew (bearing in mind that it won’t ever make sense why whidmore or anyone else would risk pulling random people for a mission, just like it will never make sense why the button couldn’t be pushed by a robot arm). My theory is that the crash is caused by a bi-location of the plane due to the magnetic problem with desmond being late on the button. The writers have said that the plane crash was not done on purpose (unless they are lying like they were on time travel).
The writers have also said that all Lost shenanigans can be explained through simple scientific priniciples i.e. they would not resort to wizards and magic. Uh-huh…
the flashback/flash forward thing was kind of cool. the only problem with it was that nothing else happened in the episode. blaaaah.
well, i have finally been converted to to an anti-lostie, after seeing this new “romantic” fuckisode.
we have been promised so much this season - jacob, statue, others, temple , richard alpert, cerberus, orchid station, - alot of this crap won’t be explained in this season.
Welcome to our side.
I’ve really enjoyed reading these comments. Kudos for the name botox for Juliet. Makes me laugh.
I was a great moment for me when after some bad Lost episode this season I just happened to google “lost sucks” and came up with this site straightaway. You people have a great thing going.
I’m still stuck on old questions—like Walt. How did he type into a stupid computer? And why did they kidnap Sawyer, Kate and Jack? Why pick Hurley to go back and be the messenger?
Ick. All this gagging is made worse by the fact that I actually liked this show at first. Now I watch solely to snark on it.
That is the entire point! No explanation. You’re to exalt in the ceaseless suspense.
It’s the why lost sucks epiphany. Something like this, “Like awww mahhh gohhhd, this show is like so pointless…uhh, whatever!”
given last week’s epi and this most recent piece of shit, I’m baffled and amused by the producers who complained that the writers strike would force them to ‘get done in 13 episodes what they planned for 16′.
they can’t even fill one full episode with interesting content!!! they should be thankful they have 120 fewer minutes to fill.
Just came over from the TWOP Lost Forum. Made it through exactly 10 pages before I had to go vomit. Here’s a representative sample:
“God, that hurt. Seriously. As soon as it was clear that Jin’s scenes were flashbacks, my heart started breaking.
I loved the scene where Jin forgave Sun. Brilliant. Actually, all the Jin/Sun stuff was great, especially the baby name conversation, which was impossibly cute.” [Name withheld to protect the identity of a potentially unsound mind]
i agree… the fansites are such bullshit. I read one post that went something like this. “these past few episodes were a great opportunity to catch our breath after the amazing episode, the constant…” fuck me already, how long do you need to ‘catch your breath’, like 3.5 seasons of crap isn’t enough? give me a break
You got that right. Sad to say, TWoP has pretty much turned into a fansite. Purely negative posts are no longer allowed anywhere, not just the Lost boards, at least that’s my experience as of late. I think the networks didn’t like seeing their shows savaged on a weekly basis.
Another indicator they’ve gone corporate: Sars, Wing Chun and Glark - the founders of the website - have all resigned, effective March 11. Even their accounts have been removed.
Really? Iiiiinteresting. Well, I hope they were paid off nicely for founding the site.
I’ve posted a couple of times here and there on TWOP in the past month, just because I felt like spouting off about “Millionaire Matchmaker” or “Dirty Jobs” or something, but I wouldn’t bother with the Lost forum. You’re probably right about the networks wanting the site to be good publicity for them, not an open forum, so thank goodness for sites like this one. The usual weird moderating of the boards to keep everyone paralysed by a fear of arbitrary scolding is still going on over on TWOP, and it’s just not worth the tension. You know the stuff: on the Show X message board, someone says something like, “Show Y used the same plot as Show X last week,” then gets in trouble for talking about a different show.
Oh, and Lost sucks. Now I am on topic
well i butted heads with wing chun and other mods there on a number of occasions so i’m glad that place is getting screwed over.
i used to post on lost-forum for a while (first season and a little of second) but kept getting flamed and PMed by mods just because i kept bringing up plot holes, and other BS in the show.
I can’t stand that place any more. Every week it’s filled with crap like “ZOMG that was the best episode EVAR!!! [Flashforward-centric character] deserves AN EMMY for that performance!!!” It really makes me sick. I know they say all opinions are welcome, but it’s just not worth slogging through all that crap just to voice my dissenting opinion.
Thanks again for this site, Tyler!! It is keeping me sane this season.
My pleasure, just keepin it real.