The Lost Pre-season finale

Come on! That was shit! What did we learn that we didn’t already know? That the boat is wired with explosives! Period! Other than that, nothing but endless jungle humping hikes with more impossibly coincidental pathcrossings and Kate’s ridiculous tracking abilities. It’s stupid and dull. AND we had to put up with absurdly overdramatic background music AND . . . slow motion walking!!! Now, THAT”S time traveling for you! I guess we could also argue that Jack has no moral compass by letting Kate keep a baby that doesn’t belong to her, especially we know now that he knows Bye-Bee Aaron’s grandmother is in the picture. So he’s also an ass. Maybe Kate kills Grandma, though, and adopts the baby. Hear that JJ? Another plot twist. Use it. No charge.

Yeah, Killer!Kate’s abilities used to vary from episode to episode. Tonight she was all-of-the-above in one scene. At least I was entertained most of the time. Or maybe the better way to say it is that the time spent NOT entertained was much less than usual.

Best episode since ‘Walkabout’ IMO.

I for one am happy to see this site reduced to nit-picking. Even though this episode was all set-up Lost still does season endings well. I expect to enjoy the next two hours even more.

It was pretty good for the set up of the finale.
Btw I thought could always track people. Yeah she definetly could.
Cant wait for the finale, LOST always has the best finales.

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What lie could possibly be so important that Jackass and that b*tch Kate can’t tell Claire’s mom Aaron is her grandchild?? Why couldn’t Claire have been one of the 2 people who died later, after she gave birth? So I’m supposed to still consider those two mo fo’s as the hero & heroine of this crap even after they look Claire’s mama in the eye and don’t tell her about her grandchild? There is NO cover story that makes what they did okay for me, and just pisses me off even more with how Demon & Curse have treated all the children they’ve thrown into this stupid story. Don’t put people’s kids in the mix if you’re just gonna keep screwing them over!

It seems I thought less of the show than most, which is odd. Last nights epi, IMO was a waste of time. The only parts I found enjoyable, surprisingly, were the flash forwards. I liked the way Sun took control of the company. That was a nice twist although I question if in the end it will benefit the show any, considering we will all be long gone by the time little Jin is old enough to take over. Then again, perhaps we’ll just transport ahead 20 years in another epi, anything is possible at this point.

I thought it was pretty cool when Hurley Dude Hugo got in the car and the speedometer was the numbers, although it was followed up with the “run” which I am pretty certain measure about a 6.0 on the Richter scale.

I do wonder about the entire Jack / Kate / Aaron / grandmother thing. What is the chronology of those scenes? Can we really be sure if Jack knows the baby is his niece before or after the trial when Kate tells him he’s going to have to face the baby. I know that Kate and Jack seem to have gotten together AFTER the trial, but maybe it was BEFORE. Oh, I don’t know and I probably shouldn’t care. As in the past, I’ll just spend too much time trying to piece something together that will probably go unexplained and I will never know in the end, so why bother?

Overall, I thought the epi was about an 8.

Mrs. Meister

I recognize this now, Locke is playing JUMANJI. He can move the Island if it is a game piece. Remember ? Kate broke into a safety deposit box to retrieve a little toy airplane…either that or a Wizard is getting ready to make an appearance. Interesting to discover that Hurley’s Dad is Cheech Marin, that explains a lot of things.

Tyler, you lacked a suckometer rating, what’s the thought? I still haven’t seen it, won’t see it until tonight or tomorrow.

CPT P

Nothing happened in this episode. When we are reduced to enjoying an episode of LOST because nothing sucked, not because something awesome happened, then we have lowered the bar so low that we should be ashamed of ourselves.

We could have completely skipped this week’s episode and gone directly to the season finale and not missed a thing.

Note to the writers of LOST: revealing something to the characters that the audience already knows is not a revelation. It’s filler.

Last week’s episode was far superior to this one.

BTW, did anyone see Sawyer’s appearance on Kimmel last night? IRL he’s kind of a dork.

It was nice to see Admiral Cain again.

I thought the intro with the Oceanic 6 meeting their families was done well, but imagine the weight of that scene had it happened toward the end of the series. Flashforwards: one of several bad ideas.

Before this season ends, I have a few questions:

-Do you think we’ll see a flashforward of a character who stayed on the island?

-Do you think we’ll have a Sawyer episode?

-Do you think we’ll find out who Jacob is? (I don’t)

-Do you think Jin and Desmond are gonna die?

I miss Boar hunting.

The following is from an essay entitled “David Lynch Keeps His Head,” by David Foster Wallace (from his book, “A Supposedly Fun Thing I’ll Never Do Again”). This is what he says about the show Twin Peaks:

“The show’s first season, in which the plot movement consisted mostly of more and more subsurface hideousness being uncovered and exposed, was a huge smash. By the second season, though, the mystery-and-investigation structure’s own logic began to compel the show to start getting more focused and explicit about who or what was actually responsible for Laura’s murder. And the more explicit Twin Peaks tried to get, the less popular the series became. The mystery’s final “resolution,” in particular, was felt by audiences and critics alike to be deeply unsatisfying. And it was.

“…Like most storytellers who use mystery as a structural device and not a thematic device, Lynch is way better at deepening and complicating mysteries than he is at wrapping them up. And the series’ second season showed that he was aware of this and that it was making him really nervous. By its thirteenth episode, the show had degenerated into tics and schticks and mannerisms and red herrings, and part of the explanation for this was that Lynch was trying to divert our attention from the fact that he really had no idea how to wrap the central murder case up. Part of the reason I actually preferred Twin Peaks’s second season to its first was the fascinating spectacle of watching a narrative structure disintigrate and a narrative artist freeze up and try to shuck and jive when the plot reached a point where his own weaknesses as an artist were going to be exposed (just imagine the fear: this disintegration was happening on national TV).”

On a positive note, I did enjoy watching Kate put on and take off her backpack a couple of times. As many have noted, the writers really need to confine the show to the island as much as possible. There they can ignore reality whenever and however they wish. In the real world their hackwork becomes much more evident. The scene where Sun strolled into Daddy’s office and announced that she had bought controlling interest in his company was SUCH a “Bad TV Moment.” You hardly have to be a business expert to know that an old shark like this guy would have majority shares in his company safely under lock and key. Instead he goggles at her like a rube who just found out he doesn’t own the Brooklyn Bridge after all. “Huh?! You’re kidding!” The whole thing played out like an old segment from “Dynasty.” Except “Dynasty” knew it was stupid and trashy and revelled in it. “Lost” still sadly thinks it’s edgy and clever, like a drunk in a bar holding forth on national policy while unaware his fly is open and toilet paper’s stuck to his shoe. It’s doubtful whether “Lost” can ever be good again, but it’s a certainty that “The Oceanic Six” sux.

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I didn’t like the idea of the flash forwards to start with because they basically revealed to us that some of them do get off the island, which kind of defeats the whole idea of the show. With that said, I have to say that I really detest the intermediate flash forwards like we had last night. I understand they are trying to tell the story in a manner which creates the most suspense, but the whole thing with intermediate flash forwards just messes up the continuity for the viewer, and just gives the viewer that much more to sort out. The writers are probably thinking they’ve struck some sort of writing gold by doing that, but it’s totally pointless.

As for the details about last night’s episode, the whole chasing each other through the jungle was pretty hopeless. Jackass and Sawyer go after the chopper, Kate and Sayid go after them. You kind of knew one or both of the groups would get captured by someone.

On her limited time on the island, Kate has developed some sort of super tracking powers. After a quick glance of some leaves, she deduces where everyone was going.

Another episode where we see Sawyer bonding with another person – in this case Jack.
Ship is laced with C4… am i supposed to be surprised.
Owner of a company can lose his company so easily. As someone mentioned earlier, who are they trying to fool?

And finally, another group of super soldiers who will be depicted as being a bunch of kickass marines, but later on will probably get killed off by a few handguns and a VW bus.

I love the fact that nobody is feeling the effects that desmond went through when he crossed the time warp between the island and the boat. another little tid bit piece of info used for one episode and my guess is they will never touch that again

Maybe I am just incredibly dense, but I don’t understand why the so called “Oceanic Six” keep mum about what really happened on the island and agree to go along with whatever absurd cover story the airline feeds them. The obvious reason is that Oceanic and/or Widomore paid them all a buttload of money to stay silent, but this presents at least one huge problem: Hurley has no wish for money and wants to live without that curse over his head. It just seems like after all they went through on the island, they would have an overwhelming desire to explain to the world what happened. Hell, they could make millions with that story and they wouldn’t need the stupid airline company to pay them off.

Another thing that bothered me about this episode was the insultingly stereotypical manner in which Korean culture was presented. Do the writers think about this stuff at all when they portraty Koreans as so harshly sexist and patriarchal?

As noted above, there are many similarities between the story arcs of Lost and Twin Peaks. Another one that hit me the other day was the key role that “Jacob’s Cabin” has taken on in the plot of Lost. It reminds me of the use of the Dark Lodge In Twin Peaks: an interdimensional vortex where the laws of the universe are suspended. In reality, this plot device ends up being a convenient way to tie up any loose ends — just explain everything as having occurred because of some amorphous, mysterious force. The main difference between the two shows is that Twin Peaks only lasted a little over a year, and we all know the length of time that Lost has trudged on for.

Well after a long night of martial arts training (Army Combatives), I was beaten bruised, and just downright hurting. I think to myself at one point, “I’d rather be watching Lost”. Then I come home yesterday to watch Lost, and I get beaten even further. I think they jumped the shark in this episode. I really think this was it.

List of gripes:
1. We can fit 6 in the boat. Oceanic 6, I get it.
2. Boat laced with C-4, Jin defuses with Desmond, they go boom.
3. Musical Aaron, first Sawyer, then Kate, then Sun. Who’s next, Botox?
4. Jack realizes Claire is his sister, duh knew that from past (future?) episode where he tells Kate “you’re not even related to him.”
5. Numbers are back. First they matter, then they don’t, then they’re forgotten unless you need to fill a few minutes of a fat man running.
6. Gun Cocking, think this was mentioned earlier but for the love of God, they have guns, they are pointed at them, we don’t need the sound effect.
7. I know this is nitpicking, but there are 4 people (I think) on a C-130 crew, Pilot, co pilot, engineer, and loadmaster (Maybe even a navigator). Civilians don’t fly up front.
8. Kate’s “baby”, don’t you think they’d put 2 and 2 together to know that Kate wasn’t pregnant at the time of the crash but Claire was?
9. Sun takes over company, can’t see where this will lead us but down another rabbit hole. So someone actually killed Jin, that’s at least a revelation.
10. Still no clue as to who the other 2 “survivors” were. Is it that big of deal to reveal them now?

Rumor was Christian was in the coffin, given the big funeral scene, guess that wasn’t quite it. Last episode is set to reveal the mystery coffin man, as promised by the writers. Of course, we’ll probably get more brilliant writing and double speak, such gems like:
“Do you want to know why we’re here? I’ll tell you why we’re here when you do something for me.”
“You want answers? Well I have answers, and you get those answers when the time is right.”
“You want to know what is going on? I’ll tell you all you want to know but not right now, we have more important things to do.”

And the list goes on. Fonzie, shark, over.

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Um its really not that hard to tell when your following a different set of tracks from another. Shoes have different tread patterns. Tracking is really easy, not some super-human ability. And also you don’t walk around with your gun cocked unless you want to shoot yourself or your friend in the leg. Its a TV show! If you expect perfect reality I have a suggestion….. Go out in the real world!

Well just a little while til the season finale. Here’s hoping it goes out with some stupid, over the top cliff hanger that will make even more people tune out.

I’m just sitting here at the moment laughing at all the people on another message board i frequent proclaiming “happy lost day” to each other. I’ll be saying that to them the day it gets canned.

At the beginning of Lost, we were excited – drawn in to the classic disaster-movie-who-will-survive scenario; the drama was intense, the characters promising, the mysteries intriguing.

Then came the hatch. And the button pushing every 108 minutes. And Locke’s unrelenting faith that there was a purpose to it all. From there the show descended into a pointless maze of false clues, red herrings, flashbacks, flashsideways, and sheer inconsistent nonsense, compounded by introducing wave after wave of new character sets, only to kill off most all of them pointlessly after taking loads of time to painstakingly give us their character backfill in endless flashbacks. It got so bad, we were left finally with a group we could only call the other Others.

After the third season we began realizing that what we were watching was writing which truly was lost, and instead of correcting course simply kept tacking on more answer-less storyline branches in an attempt to distract viewers from the fact the writers no longer knew what they were doing. However, the distraction worked; Losties began to believe that it all made sense with such strength they were able to come up with numerous detailed theories which would tie things back together. The more obscure, random and counter-intuitive the clues were, the more the Losties believed with Locke-like faith that it was all for a reason. Unfortunately, our faith turned out to be as useful as believing in Baal.

While the sins committed against the viewers were many, there were a few major reasons that Lost ended up being little more than a 6-season hoax:

False Advertising: all season long ABC kept running ads which promised that finally, in this final season, we would get answers. If truth-in-advertising laws apply to ads about TV shows, somebody needs to be hauled in to court. In a show which raised literally hundreds and hundreds of questions, the final season provided almost no answers, while insultingly raising dozens more. Ultimately, there were only two answers given by the show; one, that the nameless smoke monster was human, and that six people did get off the island. Somehow, though, the writers succeeded in making me not care about the one thing which should matter in a disaster/survival show, which is “who lives?”. By the time we see the jetliner somehow managing to take off from a beach, it just didn’t seem to matter any more – probably because the purgatory world which dominated the last season made it seem irrelevant. Probably also because the writers used the characters more like pawns on a chessboard than people; kill Sayid, but then put him in some water in the other Other’s temple and he comes back to life – sort of, just so he can be killed again. Or can you say Walter? Most of the characters became unreal, so caring about them no longer happened. While a few (very few) questions about some characters were sort of answered (Richard’s story was interesting), those weren’t the answers which mattered. The questions which mattered were about the island (obviously a product of technology alien to us), and of those answers we were treated to exactly zero.

Immorality: while the writers went to great lengths to show each and every character as flawed, I’m not talking about that, or even the Kate/Sawyer hookup. A successful story has to in some way demonstrate a reason for good to exist in the world. Usually it’s a simple good triumphing over evil, but sometimes the story is much more complex, using deeply flawed characters struggling through a morass of difficult situations which don’t offer black and white choices. Ultimately though, as Locke would believe, there must be a reason – some positive affirmation. However, we watched Locke become a man so obsessed with the island that he would murder in order to stay on it. That is not simply a character flaw; that makes Locke a bad guy. Then we learn that the nameless smoke monster is a child imprisoned on the island by the woman who murdered his mother (who then pretended to be his mother), and that all he wants is to leave. That makes him a sympathetic character, if not an outright good guy. He remains imprisoned by his brother (who tried to murder him, only to turn him into the smoke monster) to the point he is willing to kill to get out of his prison, so maybe he is a bad guy, but you could argue about that. The psychological damage of what his “mother” and brother did to him could be grounds for mental duress, and his killing (at least at the end) was only of people he felt were in his way to escape. Because he was revealed as a good or sympathetic character (in a show dominated by characters we didn’t like or ultimately didn’t care about) I was rooting for him to get off the island. The story that somehow he was a danger had no facts to back it up and was certainly a lie (coming from the woman who murdered his mother and imprisoned him). At the least, his willingness to kill to escape was no worse than Locke’s willingness to kill in order to stay. The best you can say is we have moral ambiguity, at worst bad guys were portrayed as good guys and vice versa.

Locke was wrong: the storyline was often presented as faith versus science; Locke versus Jack. I’m sure most were rooting for Locke to be right – that there is a purpose (the allegory being there is a purpose to life). It turns out Lock was wrong. He simply died, the island didn’t need him, and even when his body was used by the smoke monster in an attempt to escape, that purpose didn’t work out either. While the island eventually got Hurley as its guardian (and Linus as “number two”), to what purpose? If the smoke monster was a threat the guardian needed to keep imprisoned, that purpose no longer existed. If Locke was right and there was a purpose, it was never explained, so might as well not exist as far as the viewers are concerned.

Linus never got his: In real life, we always want to believe in redemption, but in fiction we relish the bad guy getting ultimately taken out. In Lost we waited six seasons to see Benjamin Linus finally get what he deserved. Instead, we got nothing but him deciding to, rather than go into the light with the rest, stay a while on a park bench in a purgatory where time has no meaning anyway. Big, stinking whoop.

It was just a lame ending: there are hundreds of examples, but try these – throw someone into the light and they turn into a smoke monster. Except Desmond. And Jack. And apparently anybody except the one poor soul it turned into the smoke monster? We go to great lengths to get Desmond in the cave with the light because only he has the (unexplained, of course) super-powers to withstand it. Oh, except that Jack can go down there just fine and handle the light-stone as well. If you’re going to set up rules, you have to follow them, or explain why there are exceptions. And the whole “we created a purgatory for you where we wouldn’t remember things, and we even made you believe you had a son” crap? Please. It makes the Bobby-stepping-out-of-the-shower-it-was-all-a-dream on Dallas years ago look like Shakespearean level writing.

The result of all this is that I’ve been cheated. It turns out a relationship I gave six seasons of my life to was a scam. Having been burned, I’ll be looking much harder at getting into other relationships. I watched a few episodes of “V”, but when it started to look like (and maybe I’m just seeing things because of Lost) they were setting up some answer-less ongoing mystery story lines, I quit, deciding I can’t trust continuing dramas on ABC for a very long time (ever?). I just don’t want to risk being caught up in another Lost.