3 episodes in and all filler

All of could think of when watching tonite’s episode was enough already! Enough of the Penny boat flashbacks, we get it – you decided to lie. It’s not important. Enough with the birth scenes – it’s almost every episode now. Enough of the quantum leap moments. Enough with yet another jungle trek – seriously! Enough with Sun’s little revenge plot – its boring and we all know she won’t shoot Ben so what’s the point?

Now brace yourself for an actual positive comment: I like Sayid’s storyline and his ass kicking ways, however unlike they may be. Other than that, a fairly forgettable episode, don’t you think?

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Comment by Jakolman
2009-02-05 00:19:29

I thought it was decent. I actually look forward to re-watching it tomorrow. Can’t say the same for the first three episodes. Might be bad timing for me to bring this up, but where’s the suck-o-meter?

Comment by Jakolman
2009-02-05 01:32:41

I would like to supplement my previous comment a bit. Yes, I thought it was decent but really, another jungle trek? These producers really do have a thing for milking a specific scene for all that it’s worth.

And now they’re using live flashbacks from S2 as time waster? Well, at least nobody cocked their gun this episode. Jules didn’t even need to check the rifle before firing back at the aggressors. How convenient!

Comment by Tyler
2009-02-05 13:10:08

Oh yes, there was one angry gun cocking by Sawyer! You must have missed that one.

 
 
Comment by baitshop3
2009-02-05 08:40:14

Rosseau never mentioned the Korean guy she met on the beach when she and her gang arrived on the island. And there was never a scene when she met Jin and said, “Do I know you?” Riiiight. It’s very clear to me now how they so totally had everything planned out in advance from the beginning.

But here’s a truly jarring example of the show’s bad, lazy writing: Jack goes to get Kate to bring her back to the island. Kate is upset that someone is trying to take her fake baby away from her. Kate is determined to find out who the evil lawyer works for and thus decides to trail him. Jack wants to stay with Kate TO CONVINCE HER TO GO BACK TO THE ISLAND ASAP, so he jumps in the car with her. They follow the lawyer to the motel where the lawyer just happens to be meeting with Claire’s mother, which ultimately just turns out to be a humongous bad writing coincidence, but let’s forget that for the moment…

…BECAUSE THEN JACK DECIDES TO GO TALK TO CLAIRE’S MUM IN AN ATTEMPT TO CONVINCE HER TO LET KATE KEEP THE BABY.

WHY?????? If Jack is trying to get Kate back to the island, WHY ON EARTH would he want to remove the threat most likely to get Kate to go back to the island? WHY????? IT MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER, THAT’S WHY!!!!

Although, given Jack’s perpetual trust in Ben’s plan to go back to the island to save Locke (who Jack doesn’t even like, who killed an innocent woman in cold blood right in front of him), Sawyer (mere discussions of whom were enough to break up Jack’s relationship with Kate), some scientists Jack barely knows, a bunch of disposable extras mostly dead and…well, Bernard, Rose and Julia), it’s possible that the big reveal at the end of Lost is simply that Jack is retarded.

Comment by griff
2009-02-05 12:27:02

“…it’s possible that the big reveal at the end of Lost is simply that Jack is retarded.”

HA!

 
Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-05 15:02:12

“it’s possible that the big reveal at the end of Lost is simply that Jack is retarded.”

Didn’t you hate the patronizing dramatic music at the end that tells us to be surprised when Rousseau revealed her identity?

Comment by Magpie
2009-02-05 16:27:36

lol yeah, as if it wasn’t obvious the second we saw a bunch of people speaking French in a lifeboat.

Were they expecting us to be surprised to find that Ben’s the one trying to take Kate’s fake-baby away from her too? We figured that out since that lawyer first showed up on her doorstep.

It’s not just Jack that’s retarded. This show is retarded.

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Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-06 07:40:18

Yeah but the reveal will be that Jack, being a retard, dreamt up a retarded show.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by I Killed Locke
2009-02-05 00:28:14

I did not think it was decent… anyways here’s some questions I found myself asking the whole time.

Did we really need all that background on how kate decided she would say aaron was hers?

It’s been a few years off the island but only about 20 minutes on it, right? So why is Sawyer already so depressed about Kate being gone?

I know that a lot of events were supposed to be surprising based on the super suspenseful music, but was anyone actually surprised by anything?

Why does this show still have fans?

Who in their right mind would react the way EVERYONE on the show does when they ask a question and either get ignored or just get some smartass remark?

Why can something not happen if it didn’t originally happen unless it happens to be convenient?

Why is nothing ever important right now?

Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-05 15:04:46

“Why is nothing ever important right now?”

So that when the character asking the question does find out, they can be surprised and through dramatic music, the viewer is supposed to be surprised about a fact they were already aware of.

Comment by raptusregaliter
2009-02-06 12:02:27

“Why is nothing ever important right now?”

LOSTard is right, but take another step back. The writers write the original question in the dialogue just to give the fanbase a big flashing neon sign that says: “HEY YOU PEOPLE, PAY ATTENTION! WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW THAT THIS IS ANOTHER MYSTERY YOU CAN OBSESS OVER! LAST ONE TO WIKIPEDIA IS A ROTTEN EGG!”

If these guys were in any way competent, they wouldn’t waste so much time making the characters pose (unanswered) questions to each other. But they are incompetent, so this technique lets them get away with stuff like: “HEY YOU PEOPLE! THE ORIGIN OF JACK’S ‘MYSTERIOUS’ TATTOOS REALLY IS IMPORTANT!!! SO IMPORTANT THAT WE’RE BUILDING A WHOLE SHOW AROUND IT!!!”

I don’t know about you, but I sure am glad they cleared up that whole “tattoo” thing. It was keeping me up nights.

 
 
 
Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-05 00:43:18

I trawled through some of the comments over at Lostpedia and found these observations from one comment there. Responses were predictably hostile:

* When did Locke and co end up at the end of “Jughead?” Who cares? Let’s warp them again!

* The Olde Others: Let’s just drop them from this episode!

* The nosebleeds: Let’s talk about it later!

* Charlotte: She doesn’t recognize Daniel…wait, she’s okay, never mind the nosebleeds!

* Miles: Maybe he was here before, maybe he wasn’t!

* Locke: He’s going to the Orchid! He doesn’t know why!

* Claire’s mom: She’s not the Mysterious Client!

* The law firm’s Mysterious Client: Ben! One whole episode of suspense!

* Hurley: He’s escaped! He’s arrested! He’s doing fine in prison! He’s going to be free with a good lawyer!

* The mystery French rafters: Rousseau (duh)

* Jin: He’s alive! Quick, let’s cut to something else! (It would have been a great episode-ender.)

Ha! I’m really looking forward to watching the new episode now.

Comment by mr monkey
2009-02-05 02:29:11

i’ve been reading some other lost threads on non-lost forums and everyone is going crazy over the fact that jin and rousseau met in the past. They are all nuts.

 
Comment by The Lost Skeptic
2009-02-05 12:08:30

yep… that about sums it up. The more they try to build drama, the less successful they are. a build up to the Rosseau reveal??? c’mon… anyone *not* know it was here???

ridiculous…

I like Tyler’s Quantum Leap reference. I’m really hoping the next time they time travel Sawyer looks around and says “oh boy”…

 
 
Comment by mr monkey
2009-02-05 02:11:54

well well the ugly three headed love triangle monster has reared it’s head again. I think most people don’t give a rats ass about who kate ends up with… no wait from seeing reactions from lost fans it does seem like they are going crazy over “jate” and “skate”. I’m gonna be sick…

First you have Jack and Kate sitting in a car, having a heart to heart with the cliched rain pouring down outside. Then jack makes his pouty crying face and says “aaron is my family too”, followed by kate’s pouty crying face, followed by some more jack pouty crying face. Do people really think that this is good acting, or writing?

Then you have Juliet and Sawyer talking on the beach which was just as bad. Sawyer loses his ‘badboy’ accent and starts talking like he’s heart broken. “she was so close i could have touched her…”. Someone hand me a tissue i’m gonna cry!!

As for the show itself it was nothing more than filler as always, and i think it’s just the way the whole season is until they get back on the island. Some other points:

- Now there is a light for people to make their lame theories about.

- Jin is alive, but most people could have guessed that ages ago.

- People are going gaga over the fact that the french woman was rousseau. Oh look and she’s pregnant with Alex! How clever of them. It’s so lame how the time shifting is just a rebranded way of showing us flashbacks but only with the characters now involved. They were pointless then, and they’re still pointless now. Now we have to put up with more new characters who will probably get killed off in a few episodes.

- Ben is once again some all powerful, always thinking ahead villain. I can’t think of any other evil guy in fiction that is more of a dork than Ben. Why can’t Sayid just beat the shit out of him and give us something to cheer about.

Comment by I Hate Kate
2009-02-05 13:39:59

I can’t believe people still care about Kate. She was annoying by the third episode of the first season. But now it is just getting nausiating. As you mentioned, it is filler. The sad thing is, we all know the O6 will get back to the island. Sure, there will be some plot twist that adds “suspense,” but I guarentee they will all get back alive. So when we see Sun with a gun or Hurley is in jail for 3 counts of murder we know these issues will be resolved however rediculously or unprobable. The writers are just wasting our time by putting these inconviences in the show.

 
Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-05 15:22:04

“- Now there is a light for people to make their lame theories about. ”

Locke already explained that the light was coming from the hatch, which Desmond turned on after John shouted at it in frustration after Boone’s doom.

 
 
Comment by California Condor
2009-02-05 02:17:53

I’ll be the first to admit that this season got off to a rocky start. But I think that the show has redeemed itself a little in the last two episodes.

That hospital scene where Sayid evaded being tranquilized was pretty quality.

At first I thought the flashbacks concept was a pretty lame plot device… but now I kinda like it.

Kate cleans up well. She looks good in the civilized world.

Comment by raptusregaliter
2009-02-05 10:28:30

“That hospital scene where Sayid evaded being tranquilized was pretty quality.”

I’ve gotta stop you right there, because that scene has the stench of Lost FAIL all over it. Once again, Lost gives us the No Peripheral Vision Assassin—a guy who turns and fires two darts into a pillow without noticing that Sayid is NO LONGER IN THE BED AND IS ACTUALLY STANDING ONLY TWO FEET TO THE RIGHT!!! Then the assassin (or kidnapper) is surprised when Sayid jumps him! Fucking ridiculous.

Comment by Magpie
2009-02-05 16:33:40

As if the “assassin-pretending-to-be-a-nurse shooting the patient-who-magically-evades-the-shot” schtick hasn’t been done to death in just about ninety-nine movies already.

 
 
Comment by Jerome
2009-02-05 12:54:18

are you seriously saying one scene redeems an entire episode? by the way, how Kate looks should have nothing to do with the quality of the show

 
 
Comment by jonas
2009-02-05 04:15:29

I found myself surprizingly entertained by this episode… It still made no sense but it was way more watchable.

I was kind of hoping there is a pattern in the time-warps (they would occur at specific point in time for some pseudo-rational reasons)… but the writers are just using them as convenient plot devices >

Comment by jonas
2009-02-05 04:18:36

(lost half my comment)

… convenient plot devices…

Somebody is at gunpoint? flash!
Somebody is going to make a revelation ? flash!
Future losties are about to meet past losties ? Flash!

The nosebleed are convenient as well. Any useless characters can be wiped out now

Comment by raptusregaliter
2009-02-05 12:36:03

My question: Why did the losties get to keep their outrigger canoe after the flash? It shouldn’t be in their “new” timeline unless you start making all kinds of allowances and exceptions for what can travel through time, but that’s what you get when the writers just make it up as they go.

Nothing to see here people, move along…move along…

Comment by I Hate Kate
2009-02-05 13:35:47

Excellent question, rapt. I brought up (on a fan site) the fact as to why certain people on the island (Sawyer, Locke, Juliet, etc) and their personal belongings (knives, guns, compass, even clothes) travel through time whereas nothing or no one else ever does.

I briefly mentioned how poorly this was done and before you knew it I had everyone on the board defending the writers and “explaining” how it could happen. The thing is, the writers break their own “rules” they set up for the audience and the fans allow it to happen. The outrigger traveling through time is just another example.

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Comment by jonas
2009-02-05 14:36:10

It seems to be accepted by fanboys that everything they touch jumps as well.

I could explain it to you right now but we have no time for that now

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Comment by Jakolman
2009-02-06 00:56:52

Well played, good sir.

 
 
Comment by mr monkey
2009-02-05 14:40:30

Another thing about the time travel, and moving island is that most people, including most die hard fans are finding it hard to explain how Jin ended up where he is, and how he got affected by the shifts I think even most fans are starting to realize that this show makes no sense but they are just too scared of the pro-Lost thought police to flame them.

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Comment by I Hate Kate
2009-02-05 20:11:10

I can acknowledge first hand of this. To most fans at these boards Lost (and the writers) are inerrant.

 
Comment by Eric
2009-02-06 00:08:23

Actually they did explain this, I think in like the first episode…they’re wondering why the canoe is traveling with them, and juliet says something like, “I guess whatever’s with us is along for the ride.”

 
Comment by jonas
2009-02-06 04:06:33

What’s wrong with that? he jumped thru time as well, but stayed in the water… Eventually, he was found by the french team in… 1988?

 
Comment by I Killed Locke
2009-02-06 04:43:24

I guess whatever’s with us is along for the ride? umm this is an explanation? Define “with” please. It can’t be what they touch because they touched the camp and trees and a whole bunch over other stuff that ends up getting left behind. Don’t try to defend it. you can’t, because there is nothing to defend. there will be no explanation because i doubt the writers are even able to explain it to themselves.

 
Comment by jonas
2009-02-06 05:16:19

it’s probably whatever they are touching DURING the jump (clothes, guns, zodiac) that goes with them…

(Dont get mad, I know it makes no sense)

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by eliz
2009-02-05 05:54:34

OK–PLEASE!!! this episode was HORRIBLE–EVERYTHING about it was filler–everyone knew the lawyer was hired by either jack (if they really wanted to try and be sneaky) or clair’s mom–that train was barreling down the track at 100 mph WOOT! WOOT!

i thought everything up to them finding jin was COMPLETE filler–i even remember thinking those exact words–esp with all the cloyingly treacly kate-jack-aaron bullcrap in the beginning which was lifted right off the pages of “the bold and the beautiful”–on a BAD day!

i could not imagine for ONE SECOND that this was the show i feel in love with almost four years ago–it was AWFUL!

Sun with a GUN?? OOO!! whenever you want to get the drama pumpin’ just put a gun in someone’s hands–saves you having to go through all the trouble of moving dialogue, plot , and scripts. i hate how they had this beautiful character turn into some martha stewart on steroids just b/c she thinks her husband’s dead–LUDICROUS.

and HELLO????? rousseau has only been on the island 12 YEARS!!!!!! since she was in her forties or at the VERY latest fifties when the LOSTIES first discovered her in season one how was it she aged backwards TWENTY OR THIRTY YEARS?? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? how freaking young was that actress they got to supposedly play the young roussea?? 16?? 26??? gimme a break people!!! the original actress isn’t that ugly or old! why not just put some pull-back springs on the real actress’s face and a thick brown wig and let her pay it? then surround her with other AGE APPROPRIATE french team members? ageism, disgusts me. i was especially disgusted last week with TEEN DREAM GOLDILOCKS OK dharma girl, the one with teh ridiculously oversized machine gun she could barely hold whom i supppose is supposed to be widmore’s lover and later time-dial lady?? PUH=LEZ??

LOST has gotten superficial–when they first started they at least TRIED to make it look like these people were on a desert island but by season three they all were wearing PERFECTLY WASHED, WRINKLE-FREE immaculately clean clothes and sporting snazzy hairdo’s and was just like COME THE FUCK ON!!! sawyer’s chest wax?? need i say more?

LOST is ruining it’s wonderfully inventive plot and interesting sci-fi ideas with horrid writing and ridiculous costuming and casting choices, PLEASE MAKE IT STOP–i used to love this show.

Comment by Stickman
2009-02-05 08:58:42

You write like you are gay or something.

Comment by Lostito
2009-02-05 09:41:37

Lost sucks in many levels. Acting is pretty poor too. Customing is like theatre for children, too obvious, too basic, too evident, but it has to be for most uber-mainstream tv show.

 
Comment by eliz
2009-02-05 15:44:03

even if i am gay, the show still sucks.

 
Comment by Actual Stickman
2009-02-05 17:59:09

Ahhh, the juvenile impersonating of others continues…at least try to make your post sound like something I might actually post. I don’t think I have ever posted a comment as brainless as “You write like you are gay or something.”

If all of this impersonating is from the same idiot posting as nWo, then Tyler, sign my name to the petition for IP ban.

Comment by Actual Stickman
2009-02-05 19:38:06

Why dont you just write “waaaaaaa booo hooooo” , if you are going to get menstrual cramps all over for using the very gay “stickman” screen name.

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Comment by JT
2009-02-06 00:02:54

Stick, what’s the point of an IP ban? It’s not going to happen. There’s maybe four intelligible posters left on this site, if that. The troll is clearly BigJim, as I’m sure Tyler already knows. And even if it’s not, this is some of the lamest trolling I’ve ever seen.

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Comment by Stickman
2009-02-06 02:10:29

I am actually doubtful that it’s BigJim. Even though I think he was the one who at one point actually started a blog called “whylostdotcomsuck.com”, even this seems below him. He has always had the balls to own his statements even when they were just “f*** u guys” or “JT is a fag”.

 
Comment by Stickman
2009-02-06 02:15:16

typing too fast – BigJim (I think it was him) started a blog at one point called “whywhylostsucksdotcomsucks.com.”
It was on blogger or something. Can’t recall exactly and too lazy to search the archive. The point of contention was Tyler removing a post that was deemed even too offensive for this board and BigJim started screaming “censorship” and “tyler is a facist”, etc.

 
Comment by BigJim
2009-02-08 11:18:33

my blog was http://www.whywhylostsucksdotcomsucks.blogspot.com its still up, but no one ever posted. as far as being the troll, you give me too much credit. i havent been on the board in over a week, i come back and im getting credit for calling JT and Stickman out for being gay. While I do speculate that they are gay, it wasnt me posting. Sorry, gotta look somewhere else

 
Comment by nWo
2009-02-08 15:11:36

Ha! Look how foolish we have you all acting! We told you that we would destroy you! We are getting it done! Divide and Conquer! You squable with each other, yet you don’t even know who we really are! Here is something to think about: JT and Stickman, if you don’t want to be accused of being gay, don’t act like you are. Its that simple. Your posts make it seem like you are in love, thats why we have outed you.

 
Comment by Lostito
2009-02-10 10:54:22

The impoirtant thing here is that finding out who is the troll is FAR more interesting that finding put who’s the secret client.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by raptusregaliter
2009-02-05 11:33:44

Tonight, on “Walkin’ thru the jungle, not talkin’ ’bout stuff”:

Botox Lady: You wanna tell me what’s going on?
Faraday: This isn’t the time.

Kate: Sayid? What’s he doin’ here?
Jack: That’s not important right now.

And so it goes. I got a laugh when the announcer told everybody to stick around for Life on Mars so that they could get a preview of Lost Unwrapped i.e. Real Time Cliffs Notes To Help You Understand How Brilliant We Are. So here’s the deal: you watch Lost, then most of Life on Mars to get a teaser of elucidation, then come back next week for the super enhanced version of Lost to find out just what the fuck is going on. Genius! Instead of telling a compelling, understandable story in 1 hour, the producers have figured out how to keep the sheeple on the hook for 2 1/2+ hours. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha….

Comment by Tyler
2009-02-05 13:13:31

Brilliant raptus

 
 
Comment by John L.
2009-02-05 12:28:43

If I didn’t want to kill Gaeta with my own hands and didn’t cheer for Starbuck as she shot her way through to release Lee, well, perhaps I would think this episode of LOST was decent. But I do want to do Geata in and I do look forward to seeing Starbuck kicking butts, laughing maniacally, so my comment on this hour of boredom is like… so what. It doesn’t even deserve a question mark. The only time I was kinda excited to see what would happen was when they saw that light and that opportunity was readily buried by Locke. Other than that, I didn’t feel a thing, well maybe some frustration from nothing important happening in the episode.

I really hope I don’t get torn to pieces by BSG haters now. :)

Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-05 15:19:04

The light was Desmond using the bathroom or something, from season 1, Locke explained it in this ep.

I hope Starbuck dies. I want a showdown between Old Apollo (Tom Zarek) and New Apollo (Lee Adama)!

Comment by John L.
2009-02-05 15:59:41

I know, but for a second, I thought something interesting was going on. It actually makes sense that Locke recognized it and told the others to stay away, but I find nothing interesting in that.

I would love to see Zarek die in the hands of Roslin, but that’s just a dream. :) Zarek v. Lee would be cool, too.

 
 
 
Comment by the real jacob
2009-02-05 12:46:46

Tyler’s prophesy has come to be….the one about seeing past season’s events through this season’s prspective.
Here’s one such “Back to the Future Part II” moment we should have been treated to last night:
Jin, who has just become stranded in the ocean after a boat blew up, encounters season 2 Jin, who has…just become stranded in the ocean after a raft blew up.

 
Comment by Jerome
2009-02-05 12:51:22

All in all I couldn’t agree with Tyler more! Just a 100% filler eppy. So ya we get a nice curve ball at the end with the re-appearance of you know who… but that doesn’t satisfy me. Also lets not forget…. THE WRITERS FIGURED OUT A WHOLE NEW WAY OF TREKKING, THROUGH THE FREAKIN WATER!

 
Comment by Paul
2009-02-05 14:35:12

Man alive… this season is awful!

All of the drama has leached out of the series now that Jack et al. got off the island. And those who are left just seem to wander aimlessly around the island in space and now time… what exactly are they doing?

I bet the next season will be cancelled.

Paul.

Comment by Paul
2009-02-05 14:44:16

I forgot to add…

There is no chemistry between the characters left now that they’ve split up the cast. I used to enjoy the Hurley-Sawyer dialogue but now we have Locke and Sawyer, which is pretty lame.

Paul.

 
Comment by mr monkey
2009-02-05 14:47:12

early reports are that ratings were down a little more this week so that’s another good sign. It probably won’t get cancelled but probably get some bad time slot like Alias did.

Comment by uncleM
2009-02-05 15:57:47

Yep, down a little. Seems to have stabilized for now though. Looks like the slippage will not be as great as it was last season.

Like I have said before though, that episode in the 2nd season that dropped them to 12.8 million viewers, and that was considered beyond terrible.

Man, they would kill for those kind of numbers now.

Comment by Tyler
2009-02-05 17:43:20

I think the only thing they can do now get the ratings up is to bring back Nikki.

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Comment by lazarus 2.0
2009-02-06 11:31:26

Ratings not WAY down, but the show continues to peel off viewers as it falls below the 11 million mark. Even so, the ABC promo monkeys are saying that Lost “catapulted” over it’s lead-in. And what was it’s lead-in? Oh yeah, it was an enhanced re-run of last week’s Lost.

Nice job guys.

Comment by uncleM
2009-02-06 14:24:45

Yep, the spin is getting ever-so moronic each week. They are getting nervous alright.

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Comment by Wiarton Willie
2009-02-05 19:51:48

It’s full blown Groundhog Day minus Bill Murray.

Dull time travelling and Jungle Treking.

Meaningless shooting off of rifles and guns.

Dangerously obese guy in orange jumpsuit. Do not take him back to the island. He needs traveller’s health insurance in a big way.

French chick is back. Jerry Lewis to follow soon.

 
Comment by nnnisthefuture
2009-02-05 20:42:25

Why do you guys watch Lost if you hate it so much?

Comment by Tyler
2009-02-05 20:53:18

Its a great question that I think you are the first to ask. or maybe not.

 
Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-06 03:20:10

Because it’s funny!

Why do you watch it?

 
 
Comment by Sammoniac
2009-02-05 20:51:54

Lol, you guys are pathetic. You’re all watching each and every episode, only to find poor ways to diss it. But we all know you like it. If you don’t, then why the hell are you watching it?? This show has a lot to offer, it is clever, and the way they use to tell the story is great. Put aside the cliches that we all came to love (each gun cocking, “starring factors” and jungle trecks) and read between the lines. Lost is a great serie, period.

Comment by Dash
2009-02-05 21:51:11

I totally agree. It’s getting pretty pathetic here. It’s not that criticism is a bad thing – but some people here are trying to critisize every little bit they see. And the emphasize is on “they see”. Because everybody is here contributing to Lost’s success. If you don’t like a show, you should stop watching it.

I like Lost. I think it has some pretty weak moments and some pretty good moments. Sometimes it doesn’t make sense, sometimes it does. But I enjoy watching it, confident that at the end of this whole series I’ll have enough information to understand the bigger part of the puzzle.

(And, yeah, I love the clichees. I like the filler episodes. I like the stuff that people can mock because it’s do darn stupid.That’s Lost, people! Start taking the title literally…

Comment by Jakolman
2009-02-06 00:55:25

That’s the thing, maybe if we had anything better to criticize about (like answers to the many mysteries of the show) then we probably wouldn’t have to focus on the flaws of the show.

Chalk that one up to the producers’ continued reluctance in tying up loose ends.

 
 
Comment by mr monkey
2009-02-05 22:47:45

If Lost is so great why are you so worried about what we think of it? Is it that reading the fundamental flaws in the show make you feel bad, and make you question your own views on the show? Last I checked this isn’t a pro-Lost site so obviously you took the time to look this site up.

 
Comment by I Hate Kate
2009-02-06 03:05:10

Well, whether you like the show or hate it… it is apparently still entertaining to people which is why they watch and talk about it. Most of the people who dislike the show here only watch it because they USED to like it in the first place. Whereas I still consider myself a “fan” of Lost, I come here because this is the only place that will look at the show critically. Anywhere else you get flamed at for being a heretic and denying the inerrancy of the show and its writers.

 
Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-06 03:23:12

“But we all know you like it. If you don’t, then why the hell are you watching it?? ”

Hell, I love the show now. It’s the best comedy on TV.

Comment by uncleM
2009-02-06 04:14:17

It truly is, but the writers, directors and actors don’t know it.

 
 
 
Comment by JT
2009-02-05 20:53:08

I really liked watching the episode, especially the part where stickman whacked off all over me.

Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-06 07:42:08

I hear stickjobs are very painful.

Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-07 06:46:28

HA!

That’s pretty f*ckin funny….

 
 
 
Comment by I Killed Locke
2009-02-06 04:54:59

Has anyone else been asking themselves what happens to the people who are talking to the “flashies” after they jump. when richard and locke were talking and the island decided to gun it up to 88, what happened from richard’s perspective? did locke just disappear? if so, wouldn’t that be pretty convincing, i mean richard goes and does that test on baby locke but baby locke fails. so richard just decides, oh well you traveled through time and visited me in the past, told me you were the leader, then vanished. but before i believe anything, first i have to see whether you pick a knife or a book.

this stuff is almost too bad to even make fun of anymore. the only thing that would be satisfying now is slapping jj abrams in his face.

Comment by lazarus 2.0
2009-02-06 11:36:42

I would rather kick him in the nuts, but I get your point.

 
Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-07 06:51:08

Yeah! I was wondering about that.

“mean richard goes and does that test on baby locke but baby locke fails. so richard just decides, oh well you traveled through time and visited me in the past, told me you were the leader, then vanished. but before i believe anything, first i have to see whether you pick a knife or a book.

Maybe Richard is a complete retard. Locke tells him to come visit him in the past, when he’s a little kid, and Richard does, then gets pissy because the little kid doesn’t recognize the item he gave to Richard forty years in the future!

That’s just dumb.

 
 
Comment by Jelson
2009-02-06 16:59:29

I always knew that no human can come up with a surprise ending worth waiting 5-6 seasons for. The best “secrets” in movie history were in movies like “the sixth sense” and “the crying game”, and “the usual suspects” and you had to wait only two hours for them, there is no way Lost “secret” are better.

J.J. is a scam artist, he tried all this “woo what is happening here?, it’s soooo mysterious, we must watch it to find out what happens’ and so on, in “Alias”, also he did it in “cloverfield” – yeah… pay movie ticket to see some lame ass monster at the end.

The man gets rich by making all these stupid “what is happening here” shows and movies, and people can’t get enough.

Now, he’ll ruin ’star trek’ – somebody stop him.

Comment by Tyler
2009-02-06 19:46:09

I refuse to see the new star trek. period.

 
Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-07 10:35:45

Enterprise ruined Star Trek for me. But I’m fairly confidend that JJ Abrams will succeed in making me redefine the word “ruined” once I’ve seen it.

Comment by Tyler
2009-02-07 14:39:18

I saw a clip of the new “JJ Trek” and it looked really really bad. Just his standard camera shaking crap, applied to Star Trek characters. Its amazing that all the old Star Treks were so good without resorting to camera shaking. I just they focused on plot and story back then, what a concept.

 
Comment by raptusregaliter
2009-02-09 11:04:16

Enterprise ruined Star Trek for me too. I remember watching the pilot, hating the theme music, hating Dr. Phlox (sp?) (both the name and the character), hating the new Vulcan chick, and hating the whole look of the Enterprise.

The only way I’ll watch JJ Trek is when it shows up in four or five years on the Sci-Fi channel.

Meanwhile, I CAN’T WAIT for Breaking Bad to return and I’m still pretty much on board for Damages. The latter still has too much flashback/flashforward nonsense, but at least it’s not full-on stupid like some other show I could mention.

Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-11 15:42:59

Yeh Breaking Bad is amazing.

Prediction fo next episode of Lost by the by: Locke’s group will still not reach the Orchid station, nor will they run into Rousseau’s team. That last one is a risky guess but I’m very confident about the first one.

Another inconsistency in last episode by the way: It seems that all the crash survivors and Widmore’S boat people who are left on the island are jumping through time together. So if they only now jumped to French expedition time, that means Jin must have been floating head-down for several hours or days.

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Comment by mr monkey
2009-02-07 21:05:42

I was thinking about the secrets which haven’t been solved yet, and how many people say that they will eventually be solved down the line, closer to the show’s end. Well to that I say what is the point of putting in secrets in one episode, and then answer it 3 or 4 years later when no one cares, or everyone has forgotten about it already?

 
 
Comment by iHateTheTViHateThePresident
2009-02-06 23:09:45

Lozl comic book guy told me “worst episode evar!!!”

No but srsly, this was the worst episode ever. Even when trying to watch it as just a singular entity without analyzing it’s plot and place in the bigger picture, it was just bad. Bad dialogue, bad scene pacing, bad everything. When filtering them i’ve actually been able to enjoy the past episodes but not this one.

 
Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-07 07:32:48

Hey Lost writers! I have a few really good plot ideas for future episodes that could make the show golden again and pull it out of the tail spin it’s in.

Never been done before, cutting edge ideas so there’s no copyright problems at all.

Here are three of them:

-In a time flash, Lock, Jack and Daniel are transported to a time on the island where a 1920’s American gangland culture exists. Lock plays tough with the tommy gun toting gangsters, Jack falls in love with a woman there but she gets killed. Daniel makes a time machine device out of vacuum tubes to flash them out of there.

-Hurley comes back to the island and goes into a once every seven years heat and he becomes very aggressive and mean. He picks Rose as his desired mate and she touches Bernard on the arm which means that Bernard must engage in a fight to the Death with Hurley over which one gets to mate with her. They are both armed with long sticks that have big blades on the end. Big fight scene with really dramatic music ensues.

-Jack, Locke and Daniel find an underground labyrinth where a Dharma construction crew is still working on excavation but some kind of monster is down there killing them one by one. The three characters encounter the creature, Daniel puts his hands on it and has a psychic conversation with it, makes friends with it and Locke tells Jack to fix an injury it has. Turns out though that the monster is not a carbon based life form! It’s silicon based and Jack lashes out at Lock exclaiming: “Dammit Lock! I’m a doctor not a bricklayer!”

There ya go guys! Save the show with some real SciFi drama. No charge. You can have the ideas. I have a bunch more if you’re interested. I’m working on one where a big infestation of really cute little furry creatures starts eating all their food and multiplying so fast that nobody knows what to do. I’m not sure where that’s going yet though so let me work on it a little more.

Cheers!

Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-07 10:04:54

Haha, I didn’t get the intentional Star Trek reference until “Dammit…” but I had Star Trek in mind, when I read your “fight to the death with bladed weapons to dramatic music” idea.

Comment by raptusregaliter
2009-02-09 11:24:12

How about the sweeps episode “Jack’s Brain” where the Smoke Monster steals Jack’s brain and uses it to run the whole island (that would explain a lot). Meanwhile, Ben pieces together a small remote control that he uses to lead the brainless Jack around.

It’s GOLD, Jerry, GOLD!

Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-11 15:50:42

Ben wouldn’t need such a device because Jack would actually be smarter if he didn’t have a brain. Hopefully though, the island will accidentally self-destruct with this new CPU. And if that doesn’t happen, Locke can talk the computer to death.

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Comment by Lmeister
2009-02-09 11:40:31

Wow! This was great. I remember EVERY one of those Trek episodes, including the “Horta” silicone based life form. Oh man!

 
 
Comment by Annibal
2009-02-07 08:53:48

Every quantum leap flash they remain but things changes around them, appearing and disappearing accordingly to their time…
What about the canoe-like rawboat?
Shouldn’t have disappear with the quantum leap flash….?

 
Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-07 10:00:58

Isn’t it odd that nobody in the public seems to wonder how the Oceanic 6 can even exist, after the wreckage had already been found with all passangers and crew accounted for?

 
Comment by Lmeister
2009-02-10 14:31:18

Here are some awesome fanboy idocies from the Fuselage:

“I’m hoping someone can help me find information on the jacket Ben has been wearing this season. I absolutely adore it and would like to know who makes it. I’ve been going crosseyed searching men’s jacket images..any info would be greatly appreciated.”

“I guess I’m just trying to figure out the big picture here. Yes, I love the details, the characters and their idiosyncrasies we’ve come to love. The humor, the drama, the love stories woven in. The sorrow of saying goodbye to Charlie…it’s all great and wonderful…but what’s REALLY going on here?

The writers are smart. They’re intelligent, educated, well-read people. This is not going to end in some stupid trivial thing as explained in the bonus material on some of the DVDs that can be rented of the past seasons. If it all ends in only one more season after this one, we’re going to start getting some answers pretty soon here, as we’ve already seen in the first few episodes of this season.

So is it just a really cool intricate story? I don’t know. Is it a conspiracy theory story mocking the New World Order? Is it a re-telling of the Bible with modern-day circumstances? It’s something clever, that we know.”

“I just re-watched the last episode and noticed
something cool I missed the first time, not sure
if anyone else did… but when
Danielle’s team is on the beach you can hear
the numbers coming from their radio. the
broadcast Danielle said they followed. so cool!
It’s sort of faint but you can hear it”

I think the average lost fan is either A. 14 years old B. Mentally challenged.

Comment by I Killed Locke
2009-02-11 01:21:37

hahahah “It’s something clever, that we know”

I should have been a writer. Apparently all you have to do is create something ridiculous and people will assume it’s genius simply because they don’t understand it.

 
Comment by Jelson
2009-02-11 11:13:50

Well, I just re-watched the last episode and noticed
something cool I missed the first time, not sure
if anyone else did… but when
Danielle’s team is on the beach you can hear

JJ and Lindelof counting money, and saying something about “morons…” …”swallow anything…”
“so what’s the viewers’ I.Q?.” (and then I hear the numbers).
…”this is pure Columbian blow”… …” so when will the hooker arrive?”
“…we will do to her what we do with the fan’s brains…”
..”the only difference is that WE pay the hooker”…
…”Kimmel, stop licking my ass”…

I couldn’t hear more, since my audio equipment is not good enough, but my mother says that she will buy me some spanking new equipment to put in my basement, and then I could really tell you my fellow disciples what’s in the background.

LOST_FAN_NUMBER_1

 
Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-11 15:45:40

Or C. Both.

Yes I noticed the numbers too, which wasn’t surprising because Danielle already explained how that was what attracted them to the island in the first place and they had to change the broadcast to the distress call to be able to send a distress call.

Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-11 15:46:45

Oh an idiocy I only just realized: Why did Rousseau record the call in French only? If I were in distress and had access to a powerful radio receiver I’d record it in every language I know.

Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-11 17:02:09

And she speaks English fluently.

It would have made a lot more sense to record the message in English.

What the hell am I doing?! That almost sounds like something a fan would post on a Lost fan site.

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Comment by mr monkey
2009-02-10 17:51:28

I saw the commercial for tomorrow’s episode for the first time this past sunday while watching the basketball game on ABC…

Oh no Sun has a gun! And she cocked it and pointed it Ben’s constipated face!

dun dun duuuuunnn

Comment by mr tippy
2009-02-10 21:53:18

that was a really stupid fucking post.

Comment by Lost fanboy #1
2009-02-10 22:03:38

not as stupid as Lost!

 
 
Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-11 03:33:40

Wow!

What suspense!

I wonder if she will shoot him?!

Pfffft. We know that’s not going to happen.

Comment by LOSTard
2009-02-11 20:43:40

Of course not. Haven’t any of you figured out why she wont shoot him?

It’ll go down something like this
Sun: “Points gun at Ben, stares.*
Ben: *Stares back*
After some bits of inane dialog and staring, Ben will say
“Jin is alive, Sun.”
Sun: “How do you know?”
Ben: *Stares.*
Sun: “Why should I believe you.”
Ben: “Well since everything I ever said was a lie, it would be pretty fucking predictable and stupid of me to lie this time too, now wouldn’t it?”

To be fair, they probably won’t even get to the part where Sun questions his statment’s truth value because that would be too common sense.

Then the lostpedia entry of that episode will list “How did Ben know Jin was alive?” under “Unanswered questions”

Of course this last prediction is moot because for all you know, I couold’ve added that, so all you have is my word that I won’t.

 
 
Comment by Wiarton Willie
2009-02-11 19:51:33

That’s no ordinary gun in her hand, it’s a time travel’n gun!!! dun dun duuuuunn

And she can cock it and point it as angrily as Sawyer can!!!

 
Comment by mr monkey
2009-02-11 21:27:13

Lost is up against a new Criminal Minds and a new American Idol tonight. Should be a bad night for Lost’s ratings.

 
 
Comment by I Killed Locke
2009-02-11 21:30:00

I heart claire

 
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