Locke-d

So let me picture the writer’s meeting that led to this show. “OK, we are in the 5th of 6 seasons, we have over 50 characters all with loose ends we need to tie up. What should we do? Hey, how about we introduce some NEW characters!” “And let’s have those characters act just like all the other ones, you know, hide things from each other, don’t answer questions, hell, we can even get them to cock a gun!”

The whole Locke thing was pretty anticlimatic being that:

a) We already knew Locke would die.
b) We already knew Locke would live.

I guess my biggest problem with the whole episode is that it wasn’t even the first time. Ben already killed Locke! Furthermore, it didn’t work the first time. So now we have Ben killing Locke again, and once again it didn’t work. What’s the point? Ah screw it!

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Comment by Jakolman
2009-02-26 00:25:25

I don’t have anything to whine about this episode. Except the extended commercial break 2 minutes before ending.

Wouldn’t be surprised if the season has peaked already and we’re just gonna cruise to the finale by giving half of the 316ers flashback stories.

 
Comment by Riley
2009-02-26 00:41:16

Although I wish I could talk some shit this week I have to concede that this was one of the best episodes ever. Especially following last weeks horrendous hour of bullshit. It’s almost disappointing that I can’t sit here and pick it apart even though I watched it with the sole intent of doing so. Widemore vs Ben, who’s in the right? Obviously we won’t find out til the end but its a much needed point of tension that has been lacking for some time now.

Comment by iHateTheTViHateThePresident
2009-03-03 03:54:10

Ahaha yeah I gotta agree. Although while watching just now I couldn’t tell if it was actually a ‘good’ episode or I had a bunch of biases.

The first was obviously just comparing it to last week’s epsiode. A kick in the balls would’ve felt like a work of art compared to that shittacular thing.

Second was that I really don’t mind another character if it’s played by Saïd Taghmaoui (ceasar). Dude is just phenomenal.

Plus, the whole ‘uh nothing actually happened’ feeling was that present as the Locke life/death thing was more of backdrop to explain some other plot points. It still ended up as a long-winded way of showing Linus is actually the ‘bad guy’… Or perhaps there is no actual ‘good guy’ much like real life? (Lost writers, you know where to send the residual checks)

Lol, basically i’m at the point where i’m grading from the ground up, not the top down, as we’ve pretty much thoroughly hashed out why Lost sucks. Grading on this new curve i’d say this a pretty good episode.

 
 
Comment by Dum Dum
2009-02-26 01:12:03

Why they gotta kill off another brotha?

Comment by Lmeister
2009-02-26 10:41:07

LOL! Very good point!

Comment by Timothy
2009-02-26 10:49:28

Not really.

 
 
 
Comment by mr monkey
2009-02-26 01:16:15

another one hour snooze fest. I admit there wasn’t much for me to nitpick about, but the episode on the whole was very boring.

I didn’t enjoy the whole first annual John Locke wheelchair tour because it was nothing more than pointless backstory. We know how they all ended up deciding in the end so why go back and tell us now when it doesn’t matter? I know the backstory bit seemed like an interesting way to tell a story, but after the past seasons they have become pointless. There is no suspense to them when you know what the outcome is going to be.

Ben killing Locke just because he mentioned that woman’s name was quite funny. After that big long spiel to talk him out of suicide, then killing him jut made me bust a gut laughing. Oh no that lady is so evil that the mere mention of her name causes people to murder!

Comment by The Lost Skeptic
2009-02-26 13:30:06

“Ben killing Locke just because he mentioned that woman’s name was quite funny. After that big long spiel to talk him out of suicide, then killing him jut made me bust a gut laughing. Oh no that lady is so evil that the mere mention of her name causes people to murder! ”

Exactly…

Comment by this site sucks
2009-02-26 13:56:39

impressive how this site has now devolved into a relentless torrent of posts that say “me too!” and “exactly!” and “LOL!” it’s good to see that independent thought is a thing of the past.

Comment by Large Beer
2009-02-26 15:09:43

Exactly!

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Comment by Matt
2009-02-26 15:55:40

LOL!

 
Comment by Dee
2009-02-26 19:42:52

Me too :)

 
Comment by Tyler
2009-02-27 00:42:14

This is why I love you guys.

 
Comment by fred
2009-02-27 07:34:40

Your site fucking blows, Tyler.

 
Comment by kevin
2009-02-27 11:03:21

LOL!!

 
Comment by lazarus 2.0
2009-02-27 11:43:14

Me too!!

 
Comment by Brian
2009-02-27 11:46:53

Exactly!!

 
Comment by nWo
2009-02-27 12:00:20

no offense guys but you’re making the troll look like a comedy genius

 
 
Comment by Lostito
2009-02-27 12:00:31

THAT’S SOOOOOOO TRUE, DUDE!!!THAT’S SOOOOOOO TRUE, DUDE!!!

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Comment by Junglebook
2009-03-02 18:21:37

Oh pay attention you tard, Ben killed Locke because Locke had to die as it had been foretold. All Ben did was get some information before Johnny boy popped off.

poking holes in a sci-fi show is pretty easy. for most people.

Comment by The Lost Skeptic
2009-03-04 10:56:42

your mom’s pretty easy for most people

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Comment by Eric
2009-03-04 23:34:32

LOL! Exactly!

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Wes
2009-02-26 02:22:19

Certainly not the worst episode IMO but did they really need an extra 6 minutes to squeeze in those little bits of plot development?

Just like with the French chick’s segments a few weeks ago they spent most of the episode showing us things we already knew.

Comment by Dee
2009-02-26 14:49:04

That’s the writers’ way of answering our questions. “Oh you wanna know what happened to Danielle’s team?” *flash* *white light* you get to see what happened. “Oh the 4 toed statue?” *flash* *white light* you see a 4 toed monster. They’ll make sure you get “answers” even if they have to defy logic, how thoughtful of them. Grrrrrrrrrrr!

 
Comment by Vincent von Woof
2009-02-26 22:09:53

Extra minutes needed to rescue a poorly directed and edited effort.

Range Rover Trek. Driving Miss Daisy. What was the point of the Walt or the Sayid visits? Chop those scenes and the episode would have been just as shitty but at least not running long.

Comment by Ceasar Salad
2009-02-26 23:25:54

If Locke wore different wigs on each visit the show would be a ripoff of ALIAS.

Comment by Michelle
2009-03-03 17:01:29

That was a big eyeroll moment in the episode for me, too. For a few seasons, everybody who can remember the first couple of seasons was wondering “where the hell is walt?” The Others were dead-set on taking the children, but Walt they just allowed to waltz off back to the mother land. And then there’s Michael on the freighter, apparently with no real logical reason for being there at all. The writers had no clue how to deal with the Walt situation, so–like most of the problems they don’t know how to fix–they allot 10 seconds to a simple meet-and-greet. “Hello Walt. I’m here to give you face time so the audience can all say, ‘Oh okay. That wraps up the Walt situation’ “Okay John Locke, it’s been great. Take care!”

A load of crap. But whatever, at least they’re finally DEALING with their plotholes instead of digging more and deeper ones. I’d like to see this show on Mystery Science Theater 3000 sometime… Now THAT would be a kickass show!

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Comment by WowIJustNoticedThis
2009-02-26 02:25:21

You guys ever notice that Ben loves killing black people? So far he’s killed: Eko Michael, Abbadon, Henry Gale. In fact, he was about to kill Walt in this episode as well. He had no other reason to be creeping around by his school. But, then he saw Locke.

Comment by what?
2009-02-26 11:14:21

Ben didn’t kill Michael or Eko, idiot.

Comment by LOSTnLOST
2009-02-26 11:47:30

Well the smoke monster killed Eko, and in S4 we saw that Ben has some control over smokey(although how much we dont know) and Ben killed Keamy fully knowing that if he did that the boat would explode

Comment by this site sucks
2009-02-26 13:59:09

that’s a total stretch, as you’re well aware.

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Comment by Vincent von Woof
2009-02-26 02:31:05

A plodding episode. So Ben strangled him and then rehung him? Big deal. Borrrring… Other than that the rest was filler.

In the tv guide, the writeup said that this episode was the “game changer” for Lost. Who pays these people to write this hype? The episodes never live up to the claims.

 
Comment by LOSTnLOST
2009-02-26 03:11:34

Dayum, what a godly show

 
Comment by Butters
2009-02-26 06:19:14

This episode was doo doo Butters.

 
Comment by Actual Stickman (not reely)
2009-02-26 08:15:14

Hurley had to verify with the Nurse whether or not he was talking to Locke’s ghost or a real person, that cracked me up. Everything else has entered into a new dimension of idiotic suckiness. We are now in the olympics of bad television. Shortly, we all will fall into the Twilight Zone of mind altering stupidity, plastic scissors with the round ends and crayons cannot be far behind.

Comment by John L.
2009-02-27 03:59:44

>>Hurley had to verify with the Nurse whether or not he was talking to Locke’s ghost or a real person, that cracked me up

Comment by John L.
2009-02-27 04:01:35

This gag was actually stolen from A Beautiful Mind.

Yo, admins, half of my comment went straight to /dev/null, what the hell?

 
 
 
Comment by Harold
2009-02-26 09:20:45

ah, another thursday–and that means another horribly written and content-poor blog entry from tyler!

let’s see what he’s writing about today. oh, look! he mentions gun-cocking for the thirtieth time! he regurgitates the same tired, lame “they’re introducing new characters” and “they don’t answer questions” complaints! nice! and then he just trails the fuck off at the end because he really has nothing to say.

if you don’t have something worthwhile to post, tyler, don’t post at all. fucking pathetic. the only things lamer than this week’s blog are, of course, the inane responses to it.

i’m also guessing the kneejerk, defensive responses to my post will also be pretty lame. i can’t wait to see them!

Comment by Matt
2009-02-26 11:43:48

I didn’t bother watching the show because I don’t have to anymore. I have the basic idea of what’s going to happen. And I guess that’s why the complaints are always the same. The show follows the same formula every episode, which I guess could be said for a lot of shows, but if the writers would try some new techniques, then I’m sure we’d all be able to find new things to complain about.

Comment by Harold
2009-02-26 11:46:10

Fuck off Matt. you and Ben are both loosers.

Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-26 14:46:35
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Comment by Frederick
2009-02-26 15:00:14

fake harold’s misspelling was certainly pretty sad, but retardedly whipping out a dictionary.com definition and using it as your comeback is pretty pitiful too.

 
Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-26 18:09:59

Dictionary.com:

“No results found for “retardedly”

 
Comment by are you serious
2009-02-26 22:36:07

dude, shut the fuck up with dictionary.com, no one thinks you’re clever in the slighest

 
Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-26 23:16:26

Actually the first one was ‘Webster’.

“shut the fuck up”? Really?

Are you hearing voices? I wasn’t speaking I was typing.

Do the voices come from inside your head or do they sound like other people are talking to you?

 
Comment by are you serious
2009-02-26 23:38:46

you posted the same fucking thing in the last blog entry and it wasn’t funny or clever then, idiot

 
Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-26 23:55:06

Ohhhh.

You’re the one with the multiple personality disorder from the previous episode.

Are you stalking me?

 
Comment by clown
2009-02-27 00:09:16

please stop posting and see if you can successfully set yourself on fire instead.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Matt
2009-02-26 15:53:36

I would normally try to think a decent semi-clever insult, but I want to use one you’ll actually understand, so here goes…

Poo poo pee pee on your face.

Comment by Dogface
2009-02-26 16:06:58

Way to prove the troll’s point, idiot

Comment by Matt
2009-02-26 18:03:31

no u

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Comment by Brian
2009-02-27 12:12:00

LOL!!

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Comment by iHateTheTViHateThePresident
2009-03-03 04:03:35

You Lost fanboys will do well by actually pointing what’s good about the show or episode. And this week should be easy, there’s a bunch of material.
But criticizing the criticism this way is pointless, I don’t want to go so far as to say it’s infallible, but it’s pretty damn close. Saying Tyler continually complains about the gun-cocking doesn’t actually refute the fact that pointless gun-cocking filler scenes are overused. Especially when the writers do have some actors that are good enough to project fear and danger or whatever other emotion without resorting to a drawn out gun cocking scene with a cheesy score.
All in all, since so many Lost apologists seem to be frequenting this site more and more, it’d be much more interesting to actually discuss what’s still good about the show.

 
 
Comment by Ben
2009-02-26 09:52:14

See dumbasses. This really is the best show of all time. Before the end you’ll all be sucking this shows peter again, I can assure you. It takes patience to recognize genius. See you next week, losers.

Comment by Harold
2009-02-26 11:44:08

Fuck off Ben. I don’t need your help here.

 
 
Comment by raptusregaliter
2009-02-26 11:36:13

Tyler and mr monkey both have it exactly right: what’s the point of the wheelchair flashback tour since the story, such as it is, has already moved forward? We know that Locke died and is now alive; we know that the O6 didn’t want to go back but now they’re back. As usual for Lost, this makes the bulk of the episode stupid and pointless. All we learned is that Ben killed Locke. Does this advance the plot? No, because current events have already rendered this development completely inconsequential. Does it add a new wrinkle to Ben’s character? No, because he’s already proved many times over that he’s an evil douchebag.

There can’t be any suspense in the story because the outcome is predetermined. It’s like watching the Super Bowl first, and then watching a rerun of the final NFC playoff game because, you know, you’re just not sure if the right team is going to win. Who in his right mind does something like that?

And by the way, when a story involves both time travel AND raising people from the dead (both on a regular basis), there is really no reason to care what happens next because EVERYTHING will be up in the air / ambiguous / unresolved until the final two minutes. What we have now with Lost is the longest handjob in the history of episodic television.

Comment by George R.
2009-02-26 11:42:18

Anything is possible. Just click your heels together and say ” there’s no place like home, there’s no place like home.”

 
Comment by Moose Nuggets
2009-02-26 20:36:17

Lost has become annoying and insulting. The writers play/pose around big themes like “it’s too complicated to explain, even for a quantum physicist” or “reincarnation” or “time travel” as being big themes. Then they parachute in new characters such as Caesar or Illana. Before it was Naomi, Regina and the freighter people. Before that it was Ana Lucia, Libby and Mikhail. Then bang! They drop it all. Kill off failed characters and themes.

When things get really plotless, out comes the smoke monster for a cameo. Or off they go on a Jungle Trek. Or cock some guns at each other. Or beat up Ben’s face some more. Or Pop Up Jin. Or see Kate cry.

Forget about “reincarnation” or the deep mystery of the O6 with respect to Lost. It never was a serious concern. Just writers jerking us around. Locke is back and how it happened or why doesn’t matter. Why Ben strangled him? Doesn’t matter. Why is Locke so “special”. Who cares? It won’t matter anyway. Locke is alive and well on the island. Like he never even left at all.

The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham? Why even name the episode that if nothing even remotely Jeremy or Bentham had anything to do with it. How many times did anyone refer to Locke as Jeremy or Mr. Bentham? Just the writer’s posing and circle jerking.

Jack’s quest to leave the island at all cost that quickly became “we have to go back Kate!”. Forget it. The O6 are back.

The story lurches. One episode arcs that do nothing. Popping Jin, teenie Rousseau, hanging Locke.There are just too many failed plots, abandoned characters and themes that will make it impossible for a final resolution or central concept to finally appear from the chaos that the writer’s have created.

Many diehard fans are holding out and are using words like “genius” to describe the writing or plot. It’s not. Not a chance.

Forget all that. Erase from your memory.

As Widmore said “There’s a WAR coming”.

War War War War War War War War War War War

 
 
Comment by LostLover
2009-02-26 11:47:10

Another amazing show.

We found out more about that tall, bald, black guy who has been in several of the main characters’ flashbacks. He was one of Widmore’s henchmen. I knew he was lying when he said he was a representative of Oceanic.

Widmore says he’s trying to protect the island and Ben is the threat.

Ben says he’s trying to protect the island and Widmore is the threat.

Both Ben and Widmore had Richard Alpert in their “clan” while they were on the island.

Why would Richard have hung out with both of them if one was good and one was bad? I can’t wait to see how this plays out and we see who is the good person, Ben or Widmore.

You complain about the Locke-suicide-and-then-Ben-kills-him portion. Has it occured to you that perhaps suicide is against the island’s rules? Kinda like how suicide is against Christian morals? Perhaps had Locke killed himself he would not have been reborn on the island and he may have gone to hell. Loke NEEDS to get back on the island, it is his destiny. Maybe Ben saved Locke by killing him.

The note Locke wrote to Jack now makes perfect sense.

Did you look at the tombstone of Locke’s girlfriend? Did you notice the date?

April 8, 2006. 4-8. Just like the numbers. Add the day and the digits in the year 8 + 2 + 0 + 0 + 6 = 16. Just like one of the numbers. Now look at the first digit of the date and the first digit of the year 4-2. 42. just like one of the numbers. Weird, huh? Perhaps the NUMBERS caused her to die, not a brain hemmorage.

Next week we get to see Kate and Sawyer reunited. Will love survive after 3 years apart? I can’t wait to find out…

Comment by Harold
2009-02-26 11:48:54

Fuck off LostLover. I don’t need your help either.

Comment by Ben
2009-02-26 12:15:28

wow what a pathetic bitch troll. is the attention what you need? Seriously what the fuck is going on with you. lostlover’s post is much better than your original. good luck with being cool, homeboy.

Comment by Harold
2009-02-26 12:20:42

actually, the harold posting “fuck off” above is not the same harold who initially wrote the message dated 2009-02-26 09:20:45.

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Comment by Ben
2009-02-26 12:22:42

oh. i feel smart now.

 
Comment by the 09:20:45 Harold
2009-02-26 12:47:05

Good. Now fuck off.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Ceasar Salad
2009-02-26 22:23:02

It was Locke’s lack of pocket pickle that caused her to die. 42 minutes was Locke in his prime, 23 minutes, 16 minutes, 15 minutes, 8 minutes, then 4 minutes… hell, she probably committed suicide.

 
Comment by I Killed Locke
2009-03-01 13:03:50

is this a serious post?

Comment by Moose Nuggets
2009-03-03 14:40:16

42 is the answer to all questions.

 
 
 
Comment by Boognish
2009-02-26 12:48:19

But wait! The moment we’ve all been waiting for is in next week’s episode – Kate might bump uglies with Sawyer again! Damn it, voice-over guy, if that’s what I was interested in I’d be watching the soaps.

Seriously, what did you think of when you heard (not for the first time) ‘the moment you’ve been waiting for?’ I thought about the unsolved mysteries going back to that first season that got us hooked.

Comment by raptusregaliter
2009-02-26 13:24:01

What bothers me now is that the writers burned off an entire episode because they’ve decided that the cause of Locke’s death is a Big Mystery We Should Care About.

And somebody posted last week that we can probably look forward to whole episodes involving 1) Why Sayid changed his mind about the trip, 2) Why Hurley changed his mind about the trip, 3) Why Kate changed her mind about the trip, etc. etc. None of this matters anymore since they’re already back on the island, but, given Lost’s history, this is what they’re gonna shovel at us for the rest of the season. That, and episodes involving the soap-opera love quadrangle. Oh yeah, and if you saw the previews it looks like Damon and Cuse are gonna hit the big RESET button and start the story over again with this new set of crash-landed lostaways, a new set of Others, and, wait for it, a new set of mysteries. Yippee.

 
 
Comment by jayfromcleveland
2009-02-26 13:13:06

Now if I were a crime scene investigator, I would find it suspicious that an electrical cord used for a suicide had no fingerprints. It would make me examine the cord more closely, whereupon I would discover traces of Windex. That would lead me to conclude that this was actually a murder. Guess the LAPD has better things to do.

Comment by it's over
2009-02-26 13:36:38

You would think the LAPD would be spending a lot of time harrassing cop-killer Kate since she got off so easy for her dozens of crimes. I’m surprised they’re not following her everywhere, writing her tickets for every little thing…

 
Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-26 14:55:15

Actually…that part is plausible. Something rare in the series.

When cops show up at a location where someone has died, if it looks even remotely like the person might have committed suicide the detectives immediately declare it a suicide and close the case.

Comment by WowIJustNoticedThis
2009-02-27 00:46:12

Looks like someone’s been watching season 2 of The Wire.

Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-27 00:51:46

Damn I miss that show.

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Comment by Musdef
2009-02-26 13:52:54

fucking show tells us nothing that Really Matters. I was bored to death and had an attention span of less that 15 seconds. To me this was the worst episode for this Season.

Any really feels an interest to who/what/when/why the new characters? I mean I really don’t give a fuck I understand they will die/dissappear/dissolve sometime in the future. Instead of starting this episode with the last scene(locke already on the island) and going on from there until the end of the season, they preferred showing us the Haitan guy from Heroes who I didn’t recall even once from previous seasons until I watched the comments here.

Oh, and I didn’t even talk about the terrible/non-realstic acting of Ben & Jack (in the hospital).

 
Comment by Dee
2009-02-26 14:37:52

Ben has killed Locke earlier + everyone tells him “since when has whatever Ben said worked for you?”. Yet Locke decides to trust the guy ( surprise, surprise :-p) and gets killed again. So, what’s new :-p. Now the creep is with him on the island again and guess what, Locke will trust him again. He’ll never learn just like us the viewers who keep watching episode after crappy episode..

 
Comment by Ben
2009-02-26 15:38:37

You’re all idiots. This show is incredible. Just wait for the finale.

Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-27 00:00:08

Yes.

The show is incredible.

It is literally not credible.

Comment by another unfunny post
2009-02-27 00:07:08

LOL!

Just kidding. This post sucked, too.

 
 
 
Comment by Rob
2009-02-26 15:47:16

‘Lost’ has been lost since season 2, and the writers have since done a stellar job at poor writing, fumbling their way toward the show’s blessed conclusion.

Comment by Riley
2009-02-26 17:58:32

Agreed, we wouldn’t all be talking shit about this show if at some point we didn’t like it. However, the last couple of seasons have gotten increasingly worse. The whole time travel element would have made sense after season two: can’t get pregnant on the island, ok that makes sense bc you would having a baby before yorue technically born. Locke can walk, ok once again because the island is in a time and place before his accident. the others knew everything about Jack and the others members of their flight at an astounding rate, ok because they’re in the past so they could tell themselves to research all those people. But the light flashes and all this other gay shit have made the time traveling idea so stupid.

Last, I think I need to pick and choose my battles and for me this episode wasn’t that bad. People keep wondering why Ben killed Locke and I have to think that Ben wants to be the top dog again. Once he knew what women he needed to talk to and then got Sun’s ring he killed Locke in an attempt to take his place by telling that woman the he was the chosen one. This for me worked because in the beginning we all felt that Ben was the ultimate villain then the last few seasons he’s been casting doubt, in my mind at least, that he actually might be good in the end. Now we don’t know what to think once again which as at least interesting. Whether to believe Widemore or Ben? who knows? At least it got me thinking which hasn’t happened for longer than I can remember. Compared to last week’s epidsode I have to give this one a gold star.

 
 
Comment by Ben
2009-02-26 15:57:38

Okay, your brain obviously can’t comprehend the excellency of the shows deepness and inner-woven plot schemes and themes. I suggest you return to re-runs of Seinfeld.

Comment by Ceasar Salad
2009-02-26 22:25:21

Seinfeld was a show “about nothing”. Good training for watching Lost.

Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-27 00:02:16

Ha!

 
 
 
Comment by Rob
2009-02-26 16:00:18

The finale will be awesome! Just knowing i’ll never again hear another promotional announcement for the show telling me how i “can’t miss next weeks profound, game-changing, earth-shattering episode that everyone will be talking about” or some such BS. I can’t wait!

 
Comment by Thomas the whore
2009-02-26 16:01:40

Episode 8: What happened to Sawyer and Jin after Locke got away?
Episode 9: Why Sayid on plane?
Episode 10: Why Hurley on plane?
Episode 11: Why Kate on plane?
Episode 12: Why new character one on plane?
Episode 13: Why new character 2 on plane?
Episode 14: Frank gets on canoe and shoots at othr canoe?
Episode 15: Sun flashback?
Episode 16 and 17: Desmond back. Everyone back, let’s advance the story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fucking FUCK!

 
Comment by windowpayne
2009-02-26 16:08:59

Everyone has missed quite possibly the biggest plot hole yet to happen in Lost. Well, that might be a stretch but still…does anyone remember the ending of season 3 when psychotic, pill addicted Jack was desperate to get back to the island? So desperate in fact that he was flying on planes to and from Australia in hopes of another crash. Why did the writers just completely forget about this? Locke goes to visit Jack. Jack tells him to go fuck himself. Locke dies…what a day later? So how and the hell did Jack do all this flying, become addicted to pills, grow a beard and make it to the funeral all in hmmmm, 3 days? This show is fucking horendous! Oh and for the fanboys who will inevitably come up with some cockamamy excuse for this, if the funeral was even a month later, wouldn’t locke’s corpse be somewhat decomposed by this point? Shouldn’t he be walking around looking like a fucking zombie or something?

I honestly think last night may have been the worst episode of the season. What the fuck happened to science/pseudo-science explaining even a portion of this show? Dead bodies now come back to life? Oh right, the magic island…duh.

Comment by LOSTnLOST
2009-02-26 16:22:45

wow if thats the best you can come up with “whylostsucks” then this show fucking rocks (which it does)

Comment by windowpayne
2009-02-26 19:35:38

What else do I need to come up with…you haven’t explained this point. This involves the huge “game changer” of the show (season 3 finale) and basically the entire plot of season 5. Can anyone explain how Jack’s downward spiral is even remotely possible?

Nice comeback though LostnLost

 
 
Comment by MsHawkingisanalien
2009-02-26 17:25:36

Duuuuuude! It obviously was because Lacke sais Sjeck that his father is alife!

 
Comment by Riley
2009-02-26 18:05:44

My hats off to you windownpayne, unbelievable point. And last time I checked when people die their bodies are drained of their blood, their organs are removed, and they’re filled with embalming fluid. So technically not all of Locke should be back on the island.

Also, after Locke finished his story I would have immediately shot him in the face since death apparently doesn’t matter. I would just go on a killing spree for the hell of it. If someone bitched at me I’d just promise to fly their dead bodies over the ocean and bring them back to life. It pretty much trivializes the need to “save” the rest of their friends.

 
Comment by Andre
2009-02-26 21:10:45

yeah, because you know exactly how much time passed between locke in the hospital and locke in the hotel. you’re so smart. you even think that people who are already injured and then suffer a big car accident wake up and get off the hospital in hours. If people so smart like you say lost sucks, then it really sucks. no doubt

 
Comment by Casey Horsfall
2009-02-26 22:28:44

Very interesting point, my friend! This will surely need explaining… but perhaps an explanation will just make things worse. Maybe we should wait until EVERYTHING is done and over with before we try to point out plot-holes. This will give the writers a chance to “justify” some of it… or pose new questions that may never be answered. Not sure, but good point, man.

 
Comment by lazarus 2.0
2009-02-27 11:17:29

What annoyed me about Locke in the Box is that Jack had no trouble lifting up his legs to change his shoes. Problem is, when rigor mortis sets in, RIGOR MORTIS SETS IN! Jack could no more raise Locke’s leg from the hip than he could bend it at the knee. His whole body would’ve been stiff as a board!

 
 
Comment by thsi site sucks
2009-02-26 16:10:18

this site used to be cool but you guys are all a bunch of whiny fucktards now.

Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-27 00:08:22

That is some mighty strong language from an eight year old.

Go ask your mother to spank you. Then tell her I’ll be over later to spank her.

Keep your damn bedroom door shut this time you little pervert!

Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-27 12:55:17

Sorry about my shitty jokes, everyone.

Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-27 23:40:25

LOL.

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Comment by Timioso
2009-02-26 16:16:38

It was good that Ben brought along his carpentry tools just in case he wanted to clean up a murder scene. Because you don’t kick a locked or even closed door open and then just quietly, perfectly close it on your way out. Nice that after God knows how many horrible Oceanic Sux episodes we’re now exactly back to where we were before. Everyone’s back on the friggin’ island and nothing important has been solved. Also darn convenient that Los Angeles’ finest didn’t show any interest in Locke after he caused a multiple car accident while driving a car he didn’t own with blood from someone else all over the rear window and seat. Well, that’s the cool thing about having a huge conspiracy group in your story. They just “cover up” any loose plot threads. And Lost has TWO big omnipotent groups of mega-funded bad guys! Just too cool for words! Almost…

Comment by LOSTnLOST
2009-02-26 16:30:04

I think Ben went to the flat to kill locke from the start and heres why:
I think he wanted locke to die all along, he just knew if locke commited suicide and all his faith had gone(which it had at that point he had, and he was nothing more than sad old jeremy bentham) then he might not be able to go to the island. Ben basically says to locke “Hey man, it’s okay. You’re not a loser. Jack booked a ticket. If you get Jack, you can get the rest of them. Good job, man. High five.”

Faith restored, ben was then able to kill locke.

Ben’s the good guy and he always has a plan

Comment by windowpayne
2009-02-26 19:39:28

Couldn’t Ben just have been like hey Locke go ahead man, jump off the desk, the island won’t let you die. It didn’t let Michael die when he had a gun to his head and he wasn’t special. But go ahead man knock yourself out.

Comment by LOSTnLOST
2009-02-27 06:18:50

Because Locke had lost faith, you heard him “Im a failure” the guy actually wanted to kill himself and be done

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Comment by Ben
2009-02-26 16:17:06

Yeah!

Comment by Ben
2009-02-26 16:18:39

Edit: last comment directed toward thissitesucks.

 
Comment by Harold
2009-02-27 11:20:33

Didn’t I already tel you to fuck off? I don’t need your help with these loosers.

Comment by Cap'n Bigun
2009-03-01 18:16:25

But you do need help – quite a bit of help. Hope you get it.

 
 
 
Comment by Rob
2009-02-26 16:23:05

Lost has indeed been excellent in many ways i’ve enjoyed, but i feel the writers have just gone too overboard into too many other inner-woven plot schemes and themes and constant new character introductions that they lost sight of their original focus on the core characters of the story and what made season 1 so promising for the seasons that would follow.

Comment by LOSTnLOST
2009-02-26 16:33:06

those 2 new charcters that appeared are hardly main characters yet are they

 
 
Comment by Ben
2009-02-26 17:07:40

Show fucking sucks. My lil brother thinks it’s genius. Ha ha. I watch it with him every week and pretend it’s cool for him. He has all the seasons on DVD!! I kind of feel bad for him, but then again, my brother’s a prick, so…fuck him and his super crizzazy shizzow.
Word

Comment by LOSTnLOST
2009-02-26 17:18:07

calling your brother a prick
Yh you’re fucking wonderful

 
Comment by Mr friggin
2009-02-26 17:26:57

Everyone has it’s own opinion. You should accept that…

 
Comment by Riley
2009-02-26 18:11:44

You’re the deusche bag that doesn’t have anything better to do with your time than hang out with your younger brother and “pretend” to enjoy it. Thats the worst excuse I’ve ever heard you fucking pussy. You should be backing your brother up instead of talking shit about him anonymously behind his back on a website you worthless coward. Get a life of your own so that you don’t have to live bi-curiously through your younger brother who sounds happy. Who knows, he may even be able to give you some tips on how to lose your virginity.

Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-27 00:13:50

“Who knows, he may even be able to give you some tips on how to lose your virginity.”

The way your little brother taught you?

Was he hung like a donkey?

Did your butt hurt for days afterward?

Comment by Riley
2009-02-27 00:55:26

I don’t have a little brother but luckily I ran into your whore mom. I can only assume her ass is still hurting from the punishment I gave her. You and Ben should get together to discuss how your parents never hugged you guys and you don’t feel loved. Try to get some attention in the real world and quit relying on cyberspace you beat off.

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Comment by Lost My Interest
2009-02-27 01:14:31

Ewwww. My mom died when I was two days old.

That means you dug up her corpse and sodomized it?!

You got busy with a skeleton? Wow.

How was it? Tighter than your own mom? Did you lick it?

“Try to get some attention in the real world and quit relying on cyberspace you beat off.”

Wow, a corpse f*cker giving me advice on healthy social interaction.

 
Comment by Riley
2009-02-27 01:51:39

Son?!? Could it be?

 
 
 
Comment by Ben
2009-02-27 17:58:34

It’s one day a week at 8. What the fuck do you mean nothing better to do. He wants to watch Lost with me so I do. Honestly weird how offended you got. Since when is prick such an awful word. He is a prick. Everybody says he’s a prick. My own father would call him a prick. Just because he’s my brother doesn’t mean he ain’t a prick. And I’d say I’m pretty nice by not ripping on his show. Thanks for the getting laid tip.

 
 
 
Comment by windowpayne
2009-02-26 20:15:36

This show should really be shown in college to screenwriting classes. Ok class, this is exactly how not to write a show!

Create false tension where we can put annoying music to make the audience think it’s suspenseful.

For every single moment where a character is in jeopardy, have them be saved or interrupted by a) random characters, b) white flashes c) broken weapons, d) monster e) other people attacking the both of you.

Have no character arcs what-so-ever.

Have completely unrealistic conversations and don’t ever have anyone ask obvious questions. (i.e. jesus Ben did you get hit by a truck on the way to the airport or Kate did you drown a 3 year old kid just so you could be with me?)

Throw in time travel (because that hasn’t been done before)

Have a magic wheel and build an entire half a season around it.

Have ghosts who talk to fat people or asians.

A cloud of smoke which will NEVER be realistically explained other than (oh, it was here before…and it guards a temple)

Do no research whatsoever on actual court proceedings, criminal justice or how a normal police department runs.

And somehow have two guys who lived on an island most of their lives somehow make ungodly amounts of money and world wide connections with everyone of importance so they can manipulate the plot any which way they want to.

Comment by Jonas
2009-03-02 06:48:38

don’t hesitate to use religion, faith and christian references to pretend the whole thing has indeed a deep meaning

 
 
Comment by Casey Horsfall
2009-02-26 21:10:14

- Crappy, I know… here it is.

“In the beginning
Lost showed me the way
But now, it seems
I just don’t know what to say
Lost has lost me
Throughout space and time
All these flash-forwards
Seem like a crime.”

“Locke is dead
but then he’s alive
I half expect the smoke-monster
To learn how to drive.
And what of these new folk?
These passengers of 316?
What the heck is going on?
What does it all mean?

“I’m sure if we’re patient
All shall be made clear
Questions will be answered
… Or Sawyer will drink some beer.
So hold, my friends!
Do not lose sight!
Lost will reveal itself!
There will be light!
Remember the old days
Inside the Hatch
Remember Boone and his glory…
And his unfaithful match…”
Remember Jack Shepherd
On that very first day
Remember the souls
That he had saved
Remember the mayo
That Hurley loved to eat
And remember the French chick
Who reminded me of meat.”

“And so Lost is a journey
Filled with happiness and woe
Through many lands it’s taken us
Through space and time we’ve flowed.”

Ha! … Nah, that sucked, but not too bad for a high-school student, I suppose… I’ll try again next week. You guys should try to make a better poem.

Comment by I Hate Kate
2009-02-26 22:35:09

Considering Rousseau “reminded you of meat…” I’ll let you stick to it. Brutal, man. Just brutal.

Comment by Casey Horsfall
2009-02-27 00:08:04

Yeah, I know… it sucks. Couldn’t think of anything better than “meat” to rhyme with “eat”. Mmm… I think I’m going to make some Nachos and then watch season one of Lost on DVD… : )

 
 
 
Comment by Fanboy Troll
2009-02-26 21:33:24

I have just taken my brain medication and realized that I have spent a good part of this day trolling this website, and making comments that would resemble those made by a nine year old with too much access to the internet.

I would like to apologize for my trolling of this website, but if you knew my story you would understand why I am so annoying. When I was a child I didn’t have any friends. I was nothing more than a big time loner. The other kids thought I was weird and smelled funny, and not to mention my habit of eating worms in the playground didn’t help my cause any. I was just so damn lonely. My parents were no help either. My mother danced at the local nudey bar, and my alcoholic father abused me in ways that I would rather not discuss. They kept telling me i was a looser and when they didn’t want me anymore, they tied me to a wheelbarrow and pushed me down a muddy hill, into a ravine.

Well here I am now, still the same looser. I am still a weirdo, still smell funny and you can add being obese to that too. I’m still so damn lonely and I do anything for attention like coming to this site and acting like a bitch just to attempt to piss people off. Do you ever see crazy people on the street shouting random things? Well that’s me. I just need the attention.

Lost is the only friend I have. The only lover I have. Every wednesday I feel the need to touch myself as I see the masterpiece dance on my tv screen. So when you all make fun of Lost, and remind me of how bad it is, I start to cry uncontrollably and drop into the fetal position. I turn to my poster of Jack and apologize repeatedly for letting him down. I hope you understand that I am nothing more than a lonely weirdo who has nothing better to do than be annoying.

By the time my medication wears off you will probably see me replying with my stupid one liners again, and saying how stupid you all are. I just can’t help it if i’m a lost loving retard.

Comment by wow
2009-02-26 22:05:50

This idiot’s head is going to explode when he realizes he’s not funny.

 
Comment by Dee
2009-02-26 22:09:27

Exactly!

Comment by Matt
2009-02-27 05:40:49

LOL and me too.

 
 
Comment by iHateTheTViHateThePresident
2009-03-03 04:18:43

I think they just did a poor job in explaining the chronology. As I understand it, this episode took place 2 years after the O6 came back, and they go back 3 years after.
Like I said up-thread, this was a pretty good airtight episode, relatively speaking.

Comment by iHateTheTViHateThePresident
2009-03-03 04:21:17

Oops, that was meant to be for the guy asking about the chronology plot hole.

And lol Fanboy Troll is solid.

 
 
 
Comment by lazarus 2.0
2009-02-27 11:41:45

Once again, when Lost is forced to go up against American Idol, it gets hammered. Grabbing only 9.8 million viewers (its lowest number of the season), Lost lost almost 13% of the audience it had last week. It also got smoked by Criminal Minds, which pulled in over 4 million more viewers than Lost.

Don’t know yet if Lost will get an AI reprieve next week before the 3-11 head-to-heads for the rest of the season, but it may be their last chance to pull 10+ mil until this year’s finale (THAT will be an interesting number. If Lost can’t break 10 mil for the finale, you may see them in a “safer” slot next year. ABC could even dump it on Friday or Saturday nights until close to the series finale, then move it to a better slot because LOTS of curiosity-seekers are going to show up just to see how this POS ends.)

Comment by uncleM
2009-02-27 12:16:46

My guess is that the show will hang at around 9.8 even when AI goes permanently against them. They won’t be happy with those numbers, but it should get them the final season.

 
Comment by chapman
2009-02-27 12:42:09

oh boy thanks, everyone was waiting for the fucking ratings analysis shithead

Comment by Harold
2009-02-27 12:53:18

Fuck off chapman. I don’t need your heelp with these loosers either.

 
Comment by chapman
2009-02-27 12:56:49

No, FUCK YOU! Can’t you even spell you STUPID RETARD!!??

 
Comment by Harold
2009-02-27 12:59:26

Your mother taught me to spell. Then I boned her.

 
 
Comment by uncleM
2009-02-27 20:18:42

8:00 FOX American Idol 23.68 8.5/23 6.7/21
NBC Biggest Loser 8.73 3.3/9 2.8/9
CBS New Adventures of Old Christine (R) 5.83 1.5/4 0.9/3
ABC LOST (R) 4.97 1.7/5 1.4/5
CW Privileged (R) 0.90 0.4/1 0.5/2

8:30 CBS Gary Unmarried (R) 5.99 1.7/4 1.0/3

9:00 FOX American Idol 24.82 9.4/23 7.7/21
CBS Criminal Minds 13.98 3.4/8 2.0/5
ABC LOST 9.82 4.4/11 4.1/11
NBC Life 4.87 1.7/4 1.3/4
CW 90210 (R) 0.57 0.2/1 0.4/1

 
 
Comment by I Killed Locke
2009-02-27 16:38:07

you think they’ll ever try to explain why it’s so easy to survive plane crashes?
so far there have been 3 planes that have crashed and only two people have died from them.

 
Comment by kylo4
2009-02-28 23:25:33

I was a huge fan of this show. I still am of seasons one, two and three. Half of four was good and it was nice knowing the show had a definitive end date in the sixth season. As soon as they got rescued and then said they needed to go back, that’s when it jumped the shark for me. It reminded me of ALIA[S], a show I loved and how in the fifth season it too completely jumped it. All those questions that were never answered throughout the series’ run, half assed and thrown together for the final batch of episodes.

So far I’ve bought every season on DVD, this season will be skipped over completely. A dead man coming back to life? All of them going back to the island after desperately wanting to leave? It feels right now as if the writers are just dragging it out for these last 32 episodes. They could’ve just ended it with season five. Now they introduce more characters..It’s incredibly disappointing and frustrating since I still am such a huge fan of the earlier episodes and seasons. But this show each and every week now is further destroying the views I had on those episodes as well. It looks lower budget, the lines are cornier. It’s turned into Alias season five. I never thought I’d say this before, but I hope it gets canceled this season. Far too many unanswered questions and filler plotlines. After four years, I’ve given up hope on this once great show.

 
Comment by Jelson
2009-03-03 14:13:35

Most people here (trolls are not people) are quite sure that, at the end, we will have an (albeit lame) explanation. I do tend to agree, but I’m not that certain of that; case in point, the “masterpiece” ‘Cloverfield’: there was no revelation at the end of the movie like – it’s a monster from subdimension X or some crap like that. How do you know that at the end, they won’t just cloverfield the end, i.e. just show the face of Jacob or something. and then after the final credit roll, they’ll just have a sixty seconds involving some mysterious man that is behind all this… or just fade to black a la The Sopranos. I wouldn’t put it beyond them.

Comment by Tyler
2009-03-03 19:59:06

I never got through Cloverfield. Turned it off after 30 minutes and I rarely do that with movies.

Comment by fk
2009-03-03 21:12:49

I don’t recall anyone asking about your fucking movie tastes.

Comment by Moose Nuggets
2009-03-04 15:51:32

It’s his website. That’s more than you can offer.

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Comment by Harold
2009-03-04 17:04:22

Almost as much as what you can offer (i.e. a tiny penis).

 
Comment by Moose Nuggets
2009-03-04 19:36:19

stop squinting so much

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Jelson
2009-03-03 14:28:50

Not only those characters refuse to ask questions, they are the most manipulatable, acquiescent, easily influenced people in history;
There was an old cartoon with a short gangster named Rocky and his big dumb henchman – Mugsy, who always said, oafishly, ‘Yes boss’.

so we have Locke and Widmore
Locke: you tried to kill everyone on the island, you’re a bad person,
Widmore: I am a good guy, Ben is bad, now work for me and do whatever I tell you.
Locke/Mugsy: Yes, boss.

Later comes Ben:
Locke: You shot Abbadon in cold blood, you tried to kill me.
Ben: I am a good guy, Widmore is bad and you are important. now do what I tell you.
Locke/Mugsy : Yes boss.

Come on.

And another thing, to me it is almost ovbious that neither Widmore nor Linus is the bad guy. we are going to have another “surprise” when we discover that they are both manipulated by a third party (richard? Jacob? Herschel savage?). and when we discover that the lostfans will just wet their pants out of excitement…

Comment by pat
2009-03-04 02:29:04

lol

that’s all i gotta say to this post.

season 5 is amazing.

What shows do you jackasses watch that are so better than LOST. It’s the greatest show ever made. Just admit it.

 
Comment by LOSTnLOST
2009-03-04 10:16:10

wow jelson, incase you have not noticed Locke is a loser in the real world, who makes nothing but wrong choices. On island is a different story for Locke

 
 
Comment by The Lost Skeptic
2009-03-04 11:03:58

in a post way towards the top, some dude said I was impressive for basically agreeing with someone else. to that I say, thanks!

however, I must clarify that it’s less about being impressive than lazy. as frequent poster from the inaugural season, I’ve come to not care enough about the show to watch, much less compose anything original to post (further disclaimer, I’ve only lurked here periodically the past season or two to see if I’ve missed anything… I haven’t).

indeed, it’s become very apparent that there is little original to post b/c the show itself has [long ago] become so terribly repetetive and boring that to mock it seems quite boring and repetetive. alas… perhaps someday soon there will be another “greatest show ever” that captures the imagination and adoration of dolts everywhere… and provides ample material for mockery to the rest of us.

now, I must drink… one for me, and one for my fallen homies (you know who you are… long live big jim!)

Comment by Large Beer
2009-03-04 15:52:34

I miss the old days on this site where trolls, puds and basement dwelling weenies would gush over this pathetic show and were lambasted by just about everyone. I agree with Skeptic that it is just not that fun anymore. Comments about “your mother”, f-bombs from Harold since he is so cool and other juvenile responses from the fanboys that go unpunished have just gotten tiresome. Where has all of the intelligent life gone?

Go ahead and continue watching this drivel and posting how great or bad it is. I just don’t care anymore.

Come on Harold, you little goofball, throw me an f-bomb.

Right there with you Skep, a toast to the fallen……..

Comment by Harold
2009-03-04 16:51:47

Sure. Your post fucking sucks.

Comment by Large Beer
2009-03-11 13:44:32

Nice. Now go back to the basement before Mommy and Daddy find out you are talking to the big people again.

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Comment by Casey Horsfall
2009-03-04 20:10:30

To The Lost Skeptic and Large Beer for their intelligent comments about the show! Such beautiful comments are seen only once every new moon. I’m with you guys… but Lost is pretty unique, I must say.

Comment by Casey Horsfall
2009-03-04 21:12:20

I’m sorry about my stupid fucking post above. This sort of thing happens when you are an utter tool.

 
 
Comment by timothy
2009-03-04 21:11:30

jesus, perhaps you could remove your lips from bigjim’s ass. the guy’s posts are fucking asinine

Comment by brian
2009-03-05 13:17:40

Agreed. Big Jim was a fucking tool when he was here, then he threw a temper tantrum and left. Good riddance.

 
 
Comment by Casey Horsfall
2009-03-04 21:13:14

thanks for the long, rambling post that no one cares about

 
 
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