Episode 7: Dr. Linus

This is by far the worst show I’ve ever seen. There is nothing else left to say.

Best episode of the season, easily. That said, it still pretty much sucked.

We spent TWO timeframes with Ben lamenting over how much he cares for Alex. We know this already. How about some goddamn answers? Seriously. This is getting ridiculous.

That said, the Jack/Richard/Black Rock scene WAS pretty interesting.

Linus’s off-island excapades were literally retarded. You can’t just become principal at someone’s recommendation. You need certification of administration, at least where I live, and I can only imagine the rules in a state like California are even more stringent. (Both my parents work in public education, believe me, I know). Also, blackmailing the principal by illegally reading his e-mails is a good way to land in prison. The first few minutes of the episode, when Ben was talking to Artz (the science teacher), I swore the writers just copied and pasted NEA talking points. They don’t have enough funds for lab coats? What is this, Namibia? The damn things cost $20 apiece, tops. Not to mention used are as good as new, so if they wanted lab coats they have no reason to not get them. Just isn’t realistic.

Getting a letter of recommendation doesn’t get you into Yale. Not to mention the fact going to Yale will be a financial strain on Alex’s mom who is apparently working 2 jobs. Yeah, out of state tuition to an Ivy League school. That’ll be cheap.

What’s up with the economy in this other universe? Apparently the writers forget they’re supposed to be writing for the year 2004 when unemployment is below 5%.

On island was slow. Like painfully slow. The only good part of the episode was the end when we saw Widmore’s ominous Red October submarine peering out of the water. I was half-expecting to see Sean Connery down below instructing the troops.

More gun cocks. More painful stares. Locke and Ben shared a 10 second moment when Locke said Ben should be principal. I about threw up.

You know that part when Richard said he felt betrayed because he’s wasted so much time for no reason, but he can’t end it all? He needs someone else to do it for him?

Can someone come over and blow up my cable box?

I did like the Nikki & Paolo reference. Only because I now realize they were stand offish for a reason – the rest of the characters are idiots. I’d rather look for diamonds and keep up hope of getting off the island than to spend one second with these losers.

OH LOOK, THEY’RE COMING BACK TO THE BEACH… AGAIN… FOR THE THIRD OR FOURTH TIME… HOW DRAMATIC. *cue sappy music*

This episode truly sucked, mostly because I’ve ALWAYS hated Ben. Looking like a lizard and talking in monotone does not make one a scary bad guy. I was really hoping to see him take one between the eyes before the episode was over. Was anybody really surprised that in the b-universe Ben was a good guy? He’s only been whining about the fact he was actually good since they introduced the character. I guess that constitutes “foreshadowing” to the mongoloids who write this shit.

On the plus side we got the return of Uncle Rico. He always puts a smile on my face; whether he’s trying to throw a football over them mountains, or failing to return Kramer’s Tupperware. Another big plus was the return of Alex. If that girl was any more beautiful I think my eyes would bleed from looking at her.

Let’s not forget the night’s big reveal: Jacob touched Richard, so he is now indestructible to himself…wait… WTF??? What good does that do? *sigh*

Another banner night for sucking.

Lost fans are suckers.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENED!

That entire episode was 100 % pure grade A shit filler. You’d think with only a few episodes left, things would start happening. But nope!

Men crying is the new gun cocking. Every episode now features an emasculated crying grown man, or several.

Great Caesar’s ghost this show sucks.

Sweet mercy please no more slow motion beach walking scenes to end an episode. I’m begging you lost producers.

What was Hurley hoping to achieve by saying “Dude let’s get some breakfast”. I think he was planning on eating grass and tree bark.

I think it’s a little late to care about Richard and how he can’t die. Same goes for mentioning Artz again. Maybe if this was season 3 we might still have cared.

I don’t get the point of throwing Alex in there. If she’s not Ben’s daughter then wouldn’t she not exist?

That was a shitty episode. Not Kate episodes shitty, but shitty nonetheless. Arzt gets plenty of face time, so appropriately they have Jack and Hurley be led onto the black rock for old time’s sake as a convenient time waster. Are you fucking kidding me?

But wait, there’s more! They have Jack, Hurley and emo Ricky come in from the east where the bushes are stretched almost to the water. How is that significant? Well, that scene was predated from way back in S3 when Juliet was first brought into their camp, in all its sad orchestra music and slow motion cinematics glory. I bet the producers high fived each other for coming up with yet another bullshit time waster out of their asses.

Oh, and we don’t need to be reminded yet again that Ben is a conniving dipshit to the very end.

I think I’ve permanently damaged my eyes for rolling them so much in a 1 hour period.

All you fags do is cry and cry and cry continuing to watch a show you “CLAIM” to hate…Most of you know you love this shit curled up in your favorite bean bags snickering and giggling at Dr. Linus teaching his kids!

Yeah I hate this show yet I STILL pull out a hello kitty pencil kit and try and figure out every little detail and ask questions about every fucking dinosaur egg they drop in the show…Get over yourselves! As weak as this show may be to you, you STILL LOVE THIS SHIT…Hate is the biggest form of flattery losers! And if D&C appeared at your house asking you to tour the LOST island you fags would nut-up like Walt hiding in the bushes watching Sawyer bang that Mexicunt Ana-Lucia…

It’s sad how much you all LOVE this show, like srsly…You love it MORE than the kids you diss because unlike them who just have fun watching a fun show you LOSTAFUCKINHOLICS live and die with every flaw, every plot twist, every cliffhanger, every shitty ash circle..You fucks LOVE LOST more than Hurley loves deep-fried fist-fulls of ranch!!

SO let me give you LOSTLOVERS something to do in your down time when you’re not getting wet over seeing Sawyer in tight jeans…

1) Goto college or some school for writing
2)Pay your dues in hollywood for a decade writing shows
3)Make connections that give you an opportunity to create your own show on national TV
4)THEN WRITE YOUR OWN FUCKING SHOW (So pussies like me can rip you a new one for not writing the show that’s in MY fucking head!!)

Some people work hard to get to do what they want in life, you don’t like the LOST writers? Then go suck dead Locke’s shriveled up dead dick you talentless pricks! Cuz u know want to! Fucking LOSTFAGS!

Been lurking here fore a while, figured I’d chime in. Loved the show for the first 3 seasons, and now watch only for comedy.

Another horrible horrible episode.

In the latest example of absolutely irrational nonsensical behaviour by these characters, Ben is digging his own grave! I don’t know about you guys, but if someone held me at gun point and told me to dig my own grave because they wanted to shoot me and then put me in said grave, I would probably tell them “No.” Maybe that’s just me though. I think this is the thing that annoyed me the most about this episode.

The slow mo beach reunion… Geez… There is no way the writers are serious with this stuff. They are making fun of us.

Ilana changes her mind about Ben after a one minute speech… Stupid.

The “alt-story” couldn’t have been any more useless, but that’s a recurring them, as we know by now. WHY are we supposed to care about any of that stuff?

Ok, so the only college she can go to is Yale or her future is ruined forever? And the letter of recommendation from a public high school principal in LA is automatically going to get her in? Moreover, her needing a letter of rec had no effect on Ben’s leverage over the principal? Why didn’t he just say, “fuck you, write a letter of recommendation THEN resign.”

Ok, moving on. Someone just told you that they killed the closest thing you have to a father. What do you do? Do you get mad and kill him. In the real world, yes. In Lost, no. In Lost you say something cryptic and keep walking. Then once you get to your destination you very intently start doing something, such that you can not answer any questions. Then you march the person off and give them an entire day to dig a grave while you march retarded circles around him like you’re a prison guard in Hogan’s Heroes.

There is so much – they are not even trying anymore. The blackrock scene was a joke. I loved when after Jack lit the dynamite he said something like, “well he has to talk now!” or something like that. Uh, he just told you that he wanted to fucking die so what motivation does he have to talk?

Finally, I have a question. What happened to all the other people from the plane. I remember at the end of season four they all were traveling in a group, Locke shot the lady with the satelite phone, Ben pulled the donkey wheel. What happened to them all after that? Did they ever say? Does anyone remember?

When the submarine popped up from beneath the surface, I thought it was going to be like that one episode of Gilligan’s Island when the bucktoothed, gibbering Japanese sailor (actually some white actor in Peter Sellers make up) arrived in the lagoon in his own sub, with the periscope looking out at Mary Ann in her hot pants collecting coconuts. It is good to see that the guy who played the dickhead reporter in the Die Hard movies can still get acting work — this time as a dickhead principal — the dude must have a section in his resume dedicated to his expertise in portraying various dickheads. Oh yeah, I think he also played a dickhead submarine captain in an episode of Monk — just a coincidence? Admittedly, I am still wiping tears away after the emotional, slow motion beach reunion, accompanied by a stirring pathos filled score, so I probably need some time to recover and regain an objective perspective. But let’s just say that I was completely gripped by the various backstabbing and intrigue going on among the faculty of Nameless LA High School. Will Artz get his prized parking spot and lab jacket or not???? This is high quality drama, I’m so glad I waited 5 1/2 seasons for these types of crucial questions to be answered. And Nico, I’m not sure it’s cool to be lusting after a girl who is still in high school! Does your fiancee know about this?

1. obviously the beach is the now the definitely safest place and shelter offering refuge on this island…
that is atleast compared to the thousands of heavily concrete and steel armored bunker hatches all over the island.

2. “…and a fire will solve everything!”
as lond as it’s burning inside the writers room during office time it definitely will!!

3. ‘The wizard who did it’ is now definitely Jacob as he can now inject eternal youth by ‘touching’ you. Imagine what will happen if he even pisses on you like the writers do!!

4. As Lockie / Smock / Flockie / … now masters telekinesis, why couldn’t he just short-circuit the fence?

5. Bad news for all of us. Jack can’t die naturally. (makes the appendix-crisis really “not important” in retrospect)

6. It’s finally once and for all official by now:
No one, not one single person on this island no matter in which time or season, not even the highest ranking the others leading chief has now nor has ever had the least tiniest clue about WHAT THEY ARE / HAVE BEEN WORKING, KILLING AND WILLINGLY DYING FOR ALL THIS TIME, BUT THEY ARE / HAVE BEEN DOING IT HAPPILY NEVERTHELESS!!!!!!!!

7. Six smart-ass remarks avoiding giving answers to questions.

Sooooo….they never had to leave the beach to begin with.

The entire show since they left the beach was just filler so they could end up right back where they started.

Which means the whole show could have been a two hour, made for TV movie.

This is the show that should have been called ‘Punked’ because that’s the way I feel for watching four useless seasons of filler.

I may have to start watching that channel where the guy eats those really hot chicken wings…

There’s a great thread over at the Lost numbers fan site about why Lost is bad writing. Some guy ripped it apart. Google, “Why I think Lost is a poorly written show.”

You guys are all smoking crack, this was the greatest episode of the season! Let’s recount all the reasons why:

1. In opposite world, Ben is a spineless wimp. Apparently the island was around since his dad mentioned taking him there. But we knew that already

2. Jack can’t die, as all the candidates who were touched by Jacob can’t die.

3. Hurley is still fat even though most normal people would have shed like 50lbs in the time he’s been on the island.

4. Richard Alpert arrived on the black rock. Knew that already (assumed from Smokey Locke’s “chains” comment).

5. Arntz was an annoying side character who blew up all over Hurley. He’s still and annoying side character who should blow up his lab because the equipment is out of date.

6. Alex is still hot, but if her mother’s ship didn’t crash on the island, how did she end up there?

7. If you’ve read this far, you must realize I am just kidding about this episode being the greatest, it sucked but not as bad as last week’s.

I still think there will be a spinoff starring Jack, Kate and Sawyer with special appearances by Hugo. Don’t be surprised but this time I won’t be suckered in, I’m done!

CPT Preevyet

7 episodes in the season. 7 fillers. I suppose it is a new record.

BOOM

HERE’S WHAT SOME GUY POSTED OVER AT THE NUMBER’S LOST FAN SITE….IT’S LONG, BUT GREAT!!!!

I am not looking to antagonize, but figure out what I’m missing. Please respond debating my points. Here goes:

I have watched every single episode of Lost. While considered one of the greatest television shows by many, I’ve experienced increasingly dwindling enthusiasm since the season 2 finale. You could say I’ve been, err, lost in a haze of frustration for some time now. I’m sure you’ve heard this before, but I still feel compelled to state my case and have someone explain what I’m missing. Here are some of my thoughts:

1) Characters:

Lost is a very complex television show, but at the end of the day it’s a story about characters. The method and wonderful madness with which the show introduced its characters and their involvement in such unique circumstances, rightfully earned Lost the adjective “ground-breaking.” Though the magical island is what initially grabbed our attention, it was the characters that took the show from a science-fiction flash-in-the-pan to a mainstream and culturally relevant story. Based on this fundamental fact, the show’s ability to sustain relatable characters is of the utmost importance. While many of the Losties go through familiar life experiences during the flash backwards/forwards/sideways story lines — triumphs and failures, both extraordinary and mundane — as the show progressed, these off-island experiences seem to be the only place we can now relate to them. At first, the characters act in a manner that feels, well, human: Where are we? What’s going on? Why is #### polar bear over there? But after a few seasons, the Losties’ behavior becomes borderline-laughable.

At this point in the series, the characters seem utterly and completely resigned to being thoroughly uninformed. Apparently smoke monsters, polar bears, purple skies, violent indigenous inhabitants, hatches, and miracle cures are all in a day’s work. Travel back through time and join the ranks of the Dharma Initiative? They act as if it would be weird not to. Watching Sawyer interact with Flocke, who he even realizes is not the same Locke he once knew and loved/loathed, I could practically see the thought bubble over Sawyer’s head, “Whatevs. Just go with the flow man.” To add insult to injury, anytime a character gets close to something resembling an answer, or a truth, or even a context for them to process their experiences, their quest for ignorance becomes stronger. It’s as if they are allergic to answers. Forget about the audience finding out the answers, don’t these poor characters at least give a damn? If Jacob whispered the answers Lost-in-Translation style into their ears, I’d take a great deal of solace in knowing that at least they care enough to know. But they don’t. Why? Because they are committed, apparently, to being unrealistic and therefore unlikable. For example, Sawyer has a golden opportunity to demand real answers when he’s in the cave with Flocke. Instead it’s just another scene of half-baked questions and cryptic responses backed by spooky theme music, which has sadly become Lost’s signature. And, somehow, Sawyer is satisfied with this. Actually, his mind is so at ease that joining forces with an entity he doesn’t understand (and has taken the form of a dead guy) sounds like a good idea. Go with the flow man.Whatevs.

What happened to the Sawyer I knew and loved? What happened to Dr. Jack Shepherd, a man of reason, a man looking for reason? Remember that, when Jack was the voice of reason? Now, the best we get is him asking “What’s in the pill?” “Poison?” “Oh, okay, cool. That’s messed up, but cool.” The new voice of reason, strangely, is Hurley. Unfortunately, though, his “voice of reason” is played for laughs and is purely rhetorical. He asks the questions I am asking, but he asks them to no one and then tacks on “dude.” Hurley is our voice of reason. He also sees dead people. Fantastic.

I was hoping that one of the Losties would break down and plead with Dogen or Lennon, begging them to explain who The Others are and why the island is so important. Just to see this question asked would help Lost make sense. Compare it to The X-Files. The latter definitely kept the viewer in the dark, but Mulder was never comfortable with being uninformed. And his frustration with being uninformed was relatable. At the end of the day, Lost is a show full of questions, many questions, amazing questions at times, but nobody bothers to ask them. Just the audience, apparently alone in our curiosity.

2) Story:

I admit it; I’m an “answer hound.” But not by choice. No, not at all. I’m not the kind of guy who bulldozes through the journey to get to the destination. I love the journey. I crave it. The journey is what makes a story work. But the journey has to make sense.

Let’s go on a journey together. How about episode 6, “Sundown.” FLocke raids the temple. People die. People run for their lives. Something appears to be at stake. The problem is that I have no idea what that something is. I have no idea why FLocke wants to invade the temple, I have no idea why Sayid is helping him (relatedly I have no idea “who” Flocke or Sayid are, because of the whole “they’re claimed” thing), I have no idea who these Temple-dwellers are, why they’re there, when they got their, if they want to be there, or if I’m supposed to care about anything I am watching. It feels much too much like I’m watching one of those ill-conceived $200 million dollar action movies. One of those over sweetened popcorn flicks that focused way too much on “awesome fight scenes” but forgot to create an actual conflict which would give any meaning to the fight scenes. Watching this we-can’t-even-show-you-the-preview fight, I felt as if I had absolutely no more knowledge than someone who had flipped to the show randomly for the first time. Neither the devoted fan nor the channel surfer could explain what the true conflict is between these two opposing groups. That is crazy. (RIP Dogen; we hardly knew ya…seriously).

The above is not the real issue though, it’s only a symptom of a much greater illness, that being that the story is sick (not in the slang way). Literally, it’s not healthy. For a story to have a pulse, to be alive, to treat the audience to joy, pain, emotion, experience, intrigue, anything, the characters must have goals. That’s what made the show great, after all. This was the story of men and women from different walks of life, united for a goal to escape an island. That changed. As the show develops, the story must develop and characters ought to progress. But somewhere along the way, the characters stopped having goals. If they don’t have goals, then why am I watching them? We fell in love with Jack because he wanted to save everyone, but now what does he want? We loved to watch the evils and antics of Ben because he was always scheming for something. Now, what does he want? We can go character by character and realize that none of them has either an abstract or tangible goal, neither a short-term or long-term purpose and that’s a major problem. We’ve all heard that great stories and great characters have “depth.” Well, I can’t seem to find it, this elusive depth. If anything, they seem to be like amorphous blobs, like liquids – simple liquids that take the form of their container and go through the flow of each scene.

Because these characters are no longer real, no longer relatable, and no longer are striving for or against anything whatsoever, how can I do anything other than wonder how the story ends? What was the point of it? I don’t want to be an “answer hound,” but what choice do I have?

3) The Acting:

No complaints here. The acting on lost is certainly pretty good, might even be some of the best performances on network television. But you know what, the acting performances in “Gigli” were good as well.

4) My favorite show that I never want to see ever again:

I run through my favorite shows in my head — The Sopranos, Six Feet Under, The Wire, Oz, Seinfeld — and I remember being almost upset when any one of them came to a close. More Sopranos? Yes please! More Seinfeld? Absolutely. But if you told me Lost would be on for another season, I would give up on the show completely. That’s not a good sign.

Alex how do you expect to go to Yale if you don’t know that the East India Company controlled all of India EXCEPT Punjab, Sindh and Nepal due to the 1813 Charter Act. You fucking dumb bitch. Also if you wanted a letter of recommendation from the “perve” principal (legend), take the history teacher’s cock out of your mouth and move up the chain of command.
I guess Jacob’s gift doesn’t extend to male pattern baldness. Richard, although having access to eyeliner, can’t get his hands on Rogaine. Keep trying to hang in there Dick.
Guess who’s dreaming about Cheese Curls and is hungry? Fuck. Even the writers have no tact about Hurly’s morbid obesity. “Yeah, Jacob sorta told me to stall”. Sure he did Hurley you fat fuck.
Squinty busts DOCTOR Bug-eye jerking off to what looked like a ’70’s porno. What year did 815 crash?
The beach. Ilana did her best work when she was getting raped/fucked by Titus Pullo in Rome (no doubt been mentioned elsewhere on this site). This time I felt like I was being raped by her telling DOCTOR Linus “I’ll take you.”
It was only at the end when it went to slow motion did I realise that the whole show wasn’t in slow motion. Cheap show for the producers, a school scene, the old beach scene, Black rock and left over old dynamite props. I thought at least we’d see something blow up with the dynamite.
Oh and DOCTOR Linus gassing his father – with oxygen, not poison. You writers are so clever. It should go sideways to DOCTOR Linus’ grandfather gassing Jews in Poland, for continuity.

Anyway, I’ve started digging my own grave and I hope Jacob hasn’t touched me (like the principal (legend) touched the nurse) so I can kill myself after investing so much into a sad, pathetic show.

The only BOOM is the bullet going through my skull.

PS. No Kate, best part of the show.

So why didn’t Smoke Monster Locke (great rap name by the way) just kill everyone on the beach when he appeared? Then he and Ben could have just strolled off together. He trys to kill them at the temple, but hours later on the beach he just lets them go?

Please pardon the long form rambling..

I’m gonna admit that against all better judgement, instinct and hope, I DO WANT Demon and Curse to pull this off. As much as I’ve complained and as huge as the plot holes are, I would genuinely love to have this series end in a striking, memorable fashion. I REALLY WOULD. Since the appearance of Jacob and the “a wizard did it” explanation, half of me has been hoping it’s a wonderful red herring, a total misdirection, and in the final episodes, D&C will yank the rug and reveal something truly interesting, not just a rehash of the (admittedly wonderful) Babylon 5 story arc of Shadows vs Light for the Destiny of Man. Something unexpected.
D&C suggest this is so – with talk of an episode a few away that features no cast members and occurs in “a place you’ve never seen on a tv show before” – they are baiting us with the notion that Jacob and MIB are NOT the big reveal..
This scenario is unlikely when you look at the quality of the stories and scripts in the last few seasons; I doubt they’ve been holding back and are actually capable of quality storytelling. But against all odds, i do HOPE.

Hope got smacked in the face in the first 5 minutes of last night’s episode. It was the first one of season 6 that I watched throughout… admittedly while wandering in and out of the room. But within the first FEW MINUTES:
Open on Hurley – he is hungry and asking about breakfast. (Hurley fat, check)
Hurley and Jack begin jungle trek to incredibly campy comedy music not too far from Gilligans island music cues (Hurley, being fat, is funny. check)
Which way is the temple? (on again-off again jungle trekking-tracking powers, check)
Within seconds, they both run into Alpert (perfectly timed jungle bump into, check)
“Where’d you come from” “You wouldn’t believe me if i told you” “Try me” “Not just yet”. (vital question dodged, character accepts moronic non answer, check)
“Follow me” “Dude are you gonna trust that guy” “at least he isn’t stalling” (bullshit reason to trust and follow someone)

Not too much later I catch Ben talking to Miles, turns out Miles was supposed to fly 815 (pointless retcon of dot-connecting, check)
Ben gets a close up and sweet moment, and a gun barrel appears at his neck. Cha clik. (gun cocked, check.)

Too much ~ I can’t sit still for this, so lose focus, but get to see all the old crutches brought out, yawwwwwn. I notice still no Sayer, apparently chilling in a cave without rope ladders to use to exit, since he broke them getting in. I see the Black Rock but learn nothing new. I get references to Artz and other S1 references but they amount to, and illuminate, nothing. “When jacob touches you you get a gift”. Oh. A wizard did it, yup. By the end of the show, Locke is inviting Ben to The Other Other Island, you know, the one the writers forgot existed in season 5? Which, i dunno, moved with the main island while time hopping yet remaining invisible, the one Ben was gonna swim to from the main island to join The Smoke Lockester, the island that is not visible from a helicopter… that connects to the main island via.. who knows?

And having missed a great deal of season 5 and this, I have to ask – have they addressed, at all, the 40+ other survivors? Did they ever die like they were supposed to? Or did they just slip the writers’ minds?

Exhaustingly consistent with the previous 60+ episodes in being completely pointless and predictable and self-contradictory. At this point, season 6 seems to have been written as some sort of EFF YOU to the complainers like myself. You couldn’t put together a parody of the show that brought the flaws into higher relief.

I HOPE they have something great in store. But it is probably a fool’s hope. Thank God the show is also bad enough to make it fun to rag on, or I’d feel even worse about wasting these hours of my life.

The “dig your own grave” cliche is so old, overused, and weak. The premise is that the diggee will dig away to postpone death as long as it takes to dig the grave, thus maximizing their remaining lifetime. In this episode, the point is that Ilana is teaching Ben a “lesson” and Ben is getting a shot at “redemption”. And, surprise! In the alternate timeline, Ben is at a crossroads, having to decide whether to commit a crime for his own benefit or not commit a crime to help someone else. And, surprise! Ben redeems himself in the alternate timeline and then gets a little redemption on the island. Feeling warm and fuzzy yet?

It was a stupid episode though, and the “deal” between the evil Principal and Ben made no sense. If Ben does NOT disclose the affair, the Principal vacates spot with dignity intact, but “torches” Alex’s Yale prospects. However, in this case Ben still has the evidence of the ethics breach on the part of the Principal and can make that public even after the Principal has left the school, thus ruining the Principal’s prospects for future employment in a school.

This basically renders the evil Principal’s Yale recommendation/disrecommendation essentially worthless. If the Principal “torches” Alex’s Yale application, all Ben needs to do in that case is supplement Alex’s Yale application with a news clipping showing the Principal’s ethics breach at the school, which is clearly motivation for the disrecommendation – it would be pretty convincing evidence that the evil Principal was taking revenge on his old school.

I really have to wonder if the Lost writing staff is really so lazy that they don’t consider all the alternatives to the situations they are attempting to dramatize, of if they just assume the audience is too stupid to actually think about what they’re watching.

What happenned to all the serious, devoted fans? I just don’t know what to post without your pathetic presence.

Still guys, how about some love for Jon Gries (Ben’s sad dad). A man who not only played Uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite, but appeared on Seinfeld no less than three times as a crazy homeless dude. Yet another example of a fine character actor who got “Lost” in this gigantic mess.

Just FYI, I finally joined The Fuselage to post in their threads as well, but my heart is here – it feels quite comfortable at TF now that the grumbling is growing louder.

Wow, real discussions, almost no trolling. Its almost like the good old days around here!

I guess it’s that time to rip this show to shreds

You’d think this was a music video, I noted suspense music at 1:00, 3:30, 4:30-6:00 (really gay one at 6:02), 6:44, 8:50, 10:00, 11:30,12:00 (at 12:30 there’s actually three different types of suspense music ‘jungle trek music’, Richard music’, ‘mystery music’),13:30,14:00,15:30 (I’m not making this up).

What’s with Lepidus? His character has become about as useless as Penny’s was. Ilana puts a gun to Ben’s neck and cocks it. Coming up with new permutations of gun cock-environment pairs does not redeem the show for an infinite number of gun cocks. Why do the writers insist on turning all the men into pussies? Ben now can’t even manipulate a bodyguard, and Richard is a prupubescent girl. Lets see what else

-Ilana using a monkey wrench on Ben
-Miles reading ashes
-Alex going to a teachers house
-Why does Sun look like she’s reading her lines off of a teleprompter?
-Why are Sun’s only lines where is my husband/Is Jin at the temple/do you know where Jin is?
-That submarine scene, I expected it to be a sappy C&C cut scene.

Finally the dynamite scene. The purpose is to show that anyone who gets touched by Jacob can’t die by their own hand (pending script rewrites in a later episode). Well a perfect way to illustrate this would be to have the dynamite go off, killing Richard, but not Jack (at this point suspension of disbelief is a prerequisite for Lost fans). Instead Jack begins interrogating Richard as if he has a bargaining chip, when in reality he has negative leverage. Richard, despite being on the island for 200 years and being much wiser, and having already made peace with his fat, magically believes Jack.

When Hurley wanted cheese curds, I figured he could have found some under his foreskin. Or maybe clinging to his taint?

Penis and vag = love and perfect happiness

Jack and kate = love and perfect happiness

Thus gay folk rock!!

just went over to the facebook fan group, and they are showering this episode with praise.

So Ilana has daddy issues too.
Miles: “Oh oh.”

Was it ever revealed why Miles wanted a certain sum of monies from Ben?

They conveniently forgot that Ben had already been taken by the Others when the nuke went off.

“Where did you come from?”
“You wouldn’t believe me if I told you.”
“Try me.”
“Not yet.”

WTF would they not believe? They’ve experienced time travel, people disappearing from the island and reappearing somewhere in the Tunisian Sahara, smoke turning into a person and back…

So explain to me again how Ben and his Dad are alive and well in the alternate universe when they were nuked on the island?

Oh good, Jack can fashion lamps out of thin air.

So some candidates can die while others can’t, until the writers decide otherwise, as in the case of Michael (he tried and failed to shoot himself).

I wonder what would be a committed fan’s ‘10 reasons why Lost sucks’ list.

1. Not enough flashbacks – e.g. Jack has a second cousin from his father’s
third marriage, what about her? I don’t feel we fully know the inner workings of the hundreds of characters; we need more information to really be able to connect with them.
2. The show ended too soon – we need at least 13 seasons to fully explore the mysteries and esoterica of the island; but the stupid public, this “Now” generation this “fast food” generation does not have the patience to soak itself in the Lost experience. If a meteor hits earth now – we deserve it!
3. Not enough gun cocking – any good show needs a sense of danger, so how will we know if the characters are in peril or if someone means business without it?
4. Not enough jungle treks – I sit at home in a dark room all day trying to
listen to the audio track of Lost in reverse, so seeing the outdoors really makes me feel alive.
5. Not enough family connections – for Lost to be really connected I want
Hurly to be Sayid lost (get it?) brother, or Michael and Saywer to be descended from the same slave owner. I want them all to be related at the end, or at least have an ancestry that can be traced back to a particular orgy during emperor Nero’s reign.
6. Not enough Easter eggs – what am I to do during the other 348 days of the year?
7. Not enough booming sound effects – we need to be alerted about upcoming cliffhangers or a mysterious occurence. Many a times I almost fell from my seat when there was no preemptive ear-piercing crescendo to cushion the impact of the earth-shattering bombshell.
8. Not enough references to literary works, philosophers, religious figuers etc – I don’t think that the average cretin viewer understands how deep this show is, so the writers must put more and more references until even the “doltishest” of viewers gets at least one.
9. Too scientific – I know it’s all about reality and science with the writers,
but sometimes I like elements of fantasy and illogic in my shows.
10. Too many answers – the entire show is basically question…answer…question…answer, it’s so linear, so predictable. Lost should give no answers. The big questions in life have none so why should Lost have any? The best answer is no answer at all. Only the small-minded bourgeoisie think answers have any merit, I pity them.

Why does Reynold know Linus cares about Alex.

Awesome. Again no plot development whatsoever. They just went to the beach.

I have to say I was pleasantly surprised that the person who is coming to the island turned out to be an old character.

it seems that in the B-verse they all find peace and harmony and redemption (which is the plot of the next 9 episodes). so if Jacob is pro island and Slockey anti (I guess…) then it might be that Slockey is the better dude. wow dude. awsome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFicqklGuB0

Brilliant. Someone should make a simliar video following the standard plot for lost.

Well, I guess we can cross off “generic Ben episode.” That still leaves us with “the one where Jin and Sun finally get together,” “the Richard roundup,” “the last Kate-centric episode,” and two more Jack-centric episodes. I don’t think this season will ever get any better, but this is what I would like to see Damon and Carlton do:

Just go ahead and have a couple of 10-minute exposition scenes where everything gets answered and the writers show how all the pieces fit together. Do it like Oliver Stone did in “JFK”: Bring in somebody like Donald Sutherland and just let him start ‘splainin’ everything with a film-clip montage as support. Realistically, of course, this can no longer be done because the writers have screwed things up so badly, but they could at least cobble together SOMETHING that would hang together as a semi-coherent and semi-cohesive whole. Once that’s accomplished, you no longer have to worry about “mysteries” and can concentrate all your efforts on the big race to the finish. Each episode would then be like an individual battle progressing towards the ultimate outcome of the war, and there would still be opportunities in the finale to throw out some serious plot twists just to keep things interesting.

That’s what Damon and Carlton SHOULD do, but that’s not what they’re going to do. Instead, they are going to stick with their current game plan (more characters! more mysteries! no answers!) and attempt to deliver a huge, mind-blowing freak-out as the finale. This. Will. Fail. They’ve already lost the expectations game. NOBODY—not Stephen King, not Robert Heinlein, not Philip K. Dick—could write a finale that would meet the expectations Lost has deliberately built for itself. It’s going to be “Chinese Democracy” all over again. Axl Rose thought he could string us along for 10 years on nothing but promises and hype, then, when he finally delivered his “masterpiece,” nobody cared. The same thing is going to happen with Lost, but the criticisms are going to be 10 times more brutal. It’s already a foregone conclusion. The hardcore fans who aren’t completely in the tank will be the most upset because they have the largest personal investment, and the mainstream media will happily fan the flames because that’s just what they do (they thrive on controversy, so you know the next day’s headline will be “That Was It!?” and not “Finale Delivers Completely!”). It’ll be just another day at the office over here, then we can all go find something else to complain about while Damon and Carlton laugh at the rubes and count their millions.

Let me see if I followed the Alt.2.1 storyline, circa Los Angeles 2004…..

A 17 year old senior in a public LA high school got a tummy ache, and decided to go to the school nurse’s office (I guess this is the last HS in California that still has a dedicated nurse). While she was sitting there, moaning about her period, the school nurse forgot about her, and began instead f@cking the principal in the second(?) nursing office. The teen sat and watched them screw for a couple hours.

She then ran off to go hang out at History Club, but the teacher wasn’t there, and even though History Club is his greatest love in the world, he hadn’t done sh!t to let the students know. So she hung out for about 4 more hours, hoping to see the janitor get a BJ or the dedicated public school psychiatrist rub one out.

When none of that happened, she went to the teacher’s house uninvited, and he thought nothing of her showing up with no reason whatsoever. He agreed to meet her the next morning, where she made it clear that her whole purpose in wanting to see him was to share sex stories.

So, the teacher magically hacked into the school nurse’s email account (because school nurses’ crappy email is not nearly as well protected as principals’ super-email accounts), where he found that they had written over 100 emails back and forth with really specific descriptions of all of the school equipment they had used in their kinky sessions of on-campus sex.

The teacher then confronted the principal with the sexy emails, and gave him an ultimatum: Either I am going to tell the school board about this and cost you your job, and tell your wife and cost you your marriage, or you are going to quit, which will cost you your job, and be forced to explain it to your wife, which will cost you your marriage. What is it going to be???

But the principal quickly revealed an email, requesting a rec to the third best Ivy League school from the student who had been sexually harrassing the teacher. Since most women who have to settle for Princeton, Brown, or UCLA end up as crack-whores, the teacher knew he had to cave to the principal’s demand, as it would probably increase her chances of getting into Yale by about .00001%.

This was very tragic, as the teacher, despite not having the necessary legal credentials, not having any backbone, and having no experience whatsoever, was certain to be made principal. Oh well, at least he learned to stand up for some chick whose parents aren’t going to be able to afford Yale anyway, and that is really the moral of the story. Oh, that and don’t have your sore throat checked at school, because you really don’t want to know where that compress has been.

what i cant believe is that we have 9 episodes left until the season finally. is it possible to be put out of our misery sooner than that? geesh!

Tyler is all up in this bitch like a mofo today. YEAH BOOOYYYYY!!!!

aaaaaand to round up the episode, give us some playstation one cgi-sub. yeaaah, i like.

So if Jacob’s “touch” abruptly causes someone to cease aging like with the guy from the Human League, then the same thing must have happened with the so called candidates — Jack, Hurley, Jin, Sun and someone else I can’t remember (Desmond maybe?). But wait a sec, Jacob touched Sawyer and Kate when they were little brats so shouldn’t they have remained rug rats from that point forward? I suppose Jacob’s touch was special for Depeche Mode and for no one else and he just made him a feckless lieutenant for the rest of eternity.

And thinking about it, why was the beach reunion of Sun, Hurley and Jack so emotional? According to my spotty memory of the narrative of the program, Sun last saw them on the plane when they were returning to the island. Jack and Hurley were transported back to the 1977 Dharma era and spent like what — three days there before the H-bomb was triggered, then they somehow returned to 2007 or whenever that was supposed to be, and went to the temple and lighthouse — that lasted another couple of days. So Sun has not seen them for five days real time (a year and a half TV time) and acts like they are triplets separated at birth when she sees them again. I’d have thought she’d have been more fired up about seeing Miles again — it was three years of separation for them, but she has barely acknowledged he is there since they joined up again.

Also, I almost had the island sinking beneath the sea figured out — the H bomb caused it to never exist and no one in the alt dimension was affected by it at all, but then Ben and his dad (wearing horrendous makeup in an effort to make him look really old and feeble) were musing about how life would have been much better if they’d stayed on the island, so the island did exist in their reality, but it seems like they would have heard about the island going kaput along with Dharma and, and instead of whining about living on the mainland over a Swanson’s dinner, they would be thanking their lucky stars they left when they did.

” I need to find my husband”

made me feel like the same writers who used to write for “saved by the bell” now write for lost
screech is going to be the guest character next episode
ugh!

An additional point:
When Jack sat down with Richard and said “Let’s talk”, I idiotically thought, being a ‘tard, that he would ask him about the nature of island phenomena, time travel, why Richard doesn’t age, wtf was up with Jacob and Smocke/Lockie etc.

I think I realize why the show is so terrible (for me anyways). The writers focus on a single aspect of the main characters lives (Jack’s daddy issues, Kate’s kidnapping of Erin/Aron, Sayid’s victims…) and want to provide a simple explanation for it (Jack’s dad screwed him up, Kate feels guilty for kidnapping, Sayid feels guilty for torturing) and set about doing this in the most convoluted way (Jack has a son!?, Kate bumps into Claire?!?, Sayid kills more people WTF?!?) so as to pad the hell out of the show for 42 minutes. I for one would much rather find out about Richard’s story b/c lets face it, a slave ship in the 1800’s is more interesting than the confessions of a spinal surgeon, and it would be cool if they showed the temple being built, rather than a ridiculous scene of Jack eating a pill to get some answers about Sayid. For the love of god, show the egyptians building the statue, and mysterious people building the lighthouse. Everybody loves Egypt, I would’ve loved to see some pharaoh on the island ordering Jacob around (or vice versa). I don’t disagree that the characters are important to the show, and I am not completely against character development, but only when it serves to better explain the island. 6 years of character development, focusing only on a half dozen characters is not enough. Show me Radzinky’s story, Why did he edit the orientation video, why did he draw the dharma map, why did he go into the hatch. Who is the captain of Richards slave ship? Where the hell is Honso?

io9.com/5485987/5-reasons-losts-parallel-universe-is-a-waste-of-time

so the rule is that you cannot kill yourself? so if you jump from a building nothing will happen? reminds me of a ‘family guy’ episode where death was incapacitated. Man, you could make millions by doing daredevil shit. WAIT! if Smokey cannot kill Jacob… NOOOO!!! they are two sides of the same thing!!! quick, touch my arm I’ve got serious goosebumps!!!

- everything you touch cannot die… sounds like a pedophile’s worst nightmare.

- so I guess Jacob didn’t “touch” himself? well… this show does have a lot of religious motifs. Someone should have explained to Jacob that it is perfectly natural to Jac-off. But I guess Jacob, for some strange reason, believes that all his dead relatives will be watching him if he does it (now, why would he think that?)

- and widmore arrives in a submarine to do what? save the island? save the Losties’ souls? save his? wouldn’t that make him captain redeemo?

- what about Vincent? what about his B-verse (doggy-verse?) story. Will he make peace with his father – a purebred who fathered Vincent with a female mutt and was always ashamed of Vinny? Will he atone for killing that squirrel? will he find his owner’s lost shoe and thus atone for crapping in that very same shoe in the A-verse? will he become Locke’s service dog, and one day when Locke is about to eat a spoiled Kidney pie
Vinny will snatch it from him (get it?) and SAVE Locke’s life? Stay tuned kids for Lost – at the same batshit time, the same batshit channel.

“Vinny will snatch it from him (get it?)…”

Is that a reference to one of the two good Guy Ritchie movies?

I was thinking that Ben’s side story would show him living at home with that other dharma guy Tom as his gay lover.

Well the cat’s out of the bag:

Creators of ‘Lost’ say they won’t tie up all those loose ends

Many of the questions posed during the run of “Lost” that have been keeping you up at night are never going to be answered on the show but will instead be tossed on the compost heap like an old turnip, because, the writers say, they have run out of time.

“There’s a lot of little questions that unfortunately we just don’t have time to answer in the amount of time that we have left,” co-creator Cuse told the uber-fans.

“We feel like the show should stand on its own,” Cuse said. “We’re actually not going to comment on the show after the finale. We want everybody to basically be able to continue the dialogue. . . . We don’t think it’s really appropriate for us to say, ‘Oh, here is the official definition for what we meant by any particular moment on the show.’ ”

Let’s recap, shall we? The show’s creators say it’s not appropriate for the show’s creators to give the “official definition” of what they, the show’s creators, meant by any particular moment on the show they created.

Okey-dokey.

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Sorry I haven’t posted before now. Like anybody gives a rats ass about what I have to say. Anyways I have been brutally sick and even almost missed the episode. Feeling a bit better today though. (still sure nobody cares) I thought the best part of the show was when Ben offers Miles the money and Miles makes the Nikki & Paolo reference about all the diamonds. Then at the end you see Miles on the beach checking out one of them. I sure am glad that they didn’t just go by the wayside. Like I believe most of the questions from even recent episodes, let alone all the ones from previous seasons that wlll never be answered. The college student wrote a letter home to his father which stated. Dear Dad, No Mon, No Fun, your Son. The father quickly replys back. Dear Son, To Bad, So Sad, your Dad. I feel like we are about to get that letter!!!!!

If the person who posted a while back is correct in posting that an upcoming episode will feature no cast members and occurs in “a place we have never seen on a tv show before.” What does that mean? Obviously it means more new characters. Well maybe this is a good idea. They have turned the ones they have now into such retarded idiots, I can’t
stand any of them any more. John Not John now has telekinesis abilities and with just a wink of an eye can undo shackles. Now I thought he told Ben he could run the island if he met him on the other island. I don’t know if he could really give him that power or not. As far as I can tell though, Ben has always been in a power struggle over one thing or another when it comes to that stupid island. So with that in mind, why the hell didn’t he send Illana on her way and bust his ass getting over to that other island? Oh hell no that would make to much sense. When we first learned that Ben was the leader of the others, and how conniving his character was, I really liked the bug eyed little bastard. Now he is just a whiney little bitch just like Jack, who I have never liked. I think the only thing I have any hope for is a Sawyer side story. If there is one, I hope like hell he takes ole Hurley to the cleaners and cons him out of every penny that duuuude has got. I haven’t liked him ever since he wanted to rewrite Star Wars. Whats the matter with the way it is? Not that I ever liked it. But thats just my opinion. As I recall though Sawyer was giving him the evil eye after he found out he had money, when they was still on the airplane. So I say “yes” bring on this whole new place, whole new cast, but at least make them intriguing and interesting for christs sake!!! Because they sure as hell fucked it up with the other ones…..

I just can not wait for it to be over. I’m seriously going to torture the Lost faithful for years. Like 3 years fo real. Fo real!

Lost really sucks. I mean really sucks.

Flash sideways, alt-universe character scenes you would like to see before the season ends.

Here’s mine:

***Mr. Eko comes out of the closet. All of his crime associates are stunned as he explains to them that his macho swaggering and mean personality were just devices to cover up his gayness.

He buys a plane ticket to New York and becomes a famous, successful, and flamboyant florist to the rich and powerful.***

Your turn.

Off the top of my head (actually been thinking about this all month) here are some other stories which involve a mysterious place, and the way they explain it

Myst (1993 game): man falls into a book and wakes up on a mysterious island with strange properties. There are two books, red and blue (black v white). There are several pages missing (missing Darma orientation segmants) and there are strange buildings: a library/a volcano room/a mechanical room (the ‘?’/the hatch/the looking glass. As the user explores the island, and other worlds, he comes to better understand what is going on.

Neverhood (1996 game): a humanoid by the name of Clayman wakes up in a mysterious clay world, with no memory of what happened. He begins to explore the world and as he does, he finds these tapes. They tell him fragments of the story. Eventually he realizes that an evil man by the name of Klog has taken over the kingdom and imprisoned all the other people.

Beast Wars, Transformers (YTV cartoon): Transformers crash land on a strange planet with strange properties (electron v ‘negatively charged exotic matter’). They find strange structures which are not naturally formed (stonehenge v the statue), including a flying island (perfect for polar bears!!). In the end it is explained that the planet is actually an experiment in life initiated by aliens, who begin to destroy the planet when they discover the experiment has been contaminated.

1-A mysterious alternate dimension
2-A despot gone mad with power
3-An experiment

I’m not saying Lost stole ideas from them (I can’t prove that), but that all three did a better job at their stories than this POS show.

ever happened to you that you try to push out a big piece of turd and it is either too big or your sphincter too weak and it retracts back into your ass? Bummer huh

and on an unrelated topic: the Losters returned to the beach.

Alright, while I’ve ragged this show for it’s apparent inconsistencies I still kinda enjoy it (Smoking Weed while listening on booming awesome Bose headphones will make many of you LOST HATERS experiences quite tolerable if not fantasy coolness)…But I’m finally gonna turn my back on getting anything more out of this shit..

Benjimen Linus, THE GREATEST LIAR IN MODERN TV HISTORY, stumbles over whether or not the smoke monster killed jacob in the most fumbling bumbling way ever???? “oh yeah, yeaaaaaah, the smoke thing killed Jacob *twirls imaginary circus beard*… Are you fuggin serious!?!?! This muthafuker lies at spinal surgery point, while being beaten to death, with his daughter’s life on the line, but just coughs up the shittiest lie attempt in his career at the worst time ever>> Jesus..

Anyways Alex looked like Pure18 porn madness in this episode so that kinda saved it for me…The flesh between the apex of her face and the beginning of her boobs is an endless snack..You shoulda tried to hit that Mr. Belding…Screw the nurse…

Fucked over my favorite character..And now he’ll just be Jack’s lackey…GREAT…

In the immortal word of some random dude I read here a few weeks ago who made me nearly throw up from laughing…

“FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK!!”
“WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!”

B O O M

L O S T

LMAO, that was suppose to be:

“FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK”
“WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT”

HAHA….

I can’t believe someone send me here!
A fucking webpage full of retards who come here to discuss a show that they don’t even like…
Man you need to find something to do…

(Damn I’m still amazed)

Next Episode title “Honey, I shrank the Jin”

Jin and Sun finally meet up again and come across an ancient Egyptian machine. Jin, thinking of building another raft with it, accidently turns it on. After a bright flash and dramatic trombone glissandos he soon realises he is tiny and explores the new mini lost world. The rest of the season is Jin talking to an entire civilization of Egyptians he finds, he’s obviously quite quick to pick up languages, and soon realises that these are in fact the original inhabitants of the island. They built the statue, lighthouse and the shrinking machine and now the mini others have created an island of their own in a small puddle by the beach. They recounted how they had to rebuild after the “Great Yellow Tsunami” that Jin surmised was Vincent relieving himself years before. Meanwhile in the big world (an ALT now) Sun has a new excuse to annoy everyone with her endless nagging concerning the whereabouts of her husband. Eventually with a cameo of Rick Moranis in full Pharaoh costume the civilization and mini island unshrinks and pushes the old island under the sea killing everybody from the big world except obviously Jin. Jin is then made Pharaoh and keeper of the ‘new’ island – prophesy fulfilled.

BOOM

fucking….brilliant

Unfortunately I missed last weeks episode (which apparently, unsurprisingly sucked) and need to find a way of watching it before this week so that I’m up to speed and not behind in the story, hopelessly confused about what’s going on.

I have been trying to gauge the general reaction of lost fans towards this season’s shit fest of episodes and I do sense that there are many people calling this turd of a show out. Sadly many of those who are not satisfied with the show this season are feeling that way because there hasn’t been much made of the love triangle. have these people heard of daytime soaps?

Also interesting that Ilona only mentioned last episode that she was supposed to protect one or both Kwons and never bothered to tell Sun not to run off because she was probably supposed to protect her.

They’re really killing me with that ’suspensful’ music every 10 seconds

Not long ago I saw a music video by ‘The Cure’ called ‘Close To Me’, in which the lead singer was inside the ocean fighting an octopus or something :

youtube – /watch?v=SCBeZwBFkQ0

I mention this because the eyelinered frontman, Robert Smith, sort of reminds me of Richard, mmm… wouldn’t it be cool if that’s how the Black Rock sank? watch the clip and imagine it’s richard in the black rock – hours of fun guaranteed, recommended for ages 9-99, batteries not included.
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Hey Smokie, sad to hear that in our universe you have a clog in the artery, I hope you get better.
but that makes me wonder what about Smokie in the B-verse? if Lost is to believed then his situation must have some resemblence to yours.
I think that the most likely scenario is that in the B-verse he is a porn star who specializes in ‘deep-throating’, he hopes to win an AVN award, but according to the rules one must be able to insert it at least 85% percent deep to be eligible, and B-smokie can only 82%. this situation is causing him a lot of grief, and to be looked down on by his father, who in his heydays managed up to 90%.
BOOM
LOST

The only good thing about this crap was Alex, that girl is so fúcking hot. I’m gonna find her and lick that vagina for like… eternity times.

Also I wanted to say something about the Lighthouse episode which was the most shittiest thing ever done in the history of television, two dumbass called Hurley and Jack go in a “special mission” guided by Jacob the phantom of the island to find a magical lighthouse. They find it, and Jack who didn’t know what was the mission about (but he followed the fatass blindly like a fúcking creationist sheep) destroys it.
End of the episode.

COULD THIS SHIT BE MORE FILLER/POINTLESS?

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT

The only good thing about this crap was Alex, that girl is so fúcking hot. I’m gonna find her and lick that vagina for like… eternity times.

What’s wrong with plain fucking?
kids today, no respect for tradition.

I think she is beautiful, but not that sexy, so, for example, I think she’s prettier than Magen Fox but Fox is sexier – see the difference?

but if they ever do that Justice League movie she’ll be a perfect Wonder Woman.

Just watching the Mothman Prophecies, and this guy on the phone describes some intimate details to Richard Gere (ie. you don’t remember what your mom looks like, your dad grew up here…) and Gere’s like “OK, you got my attention.” If this was Lost, and someone said something remotely similar to Jack, he would probably point in some random direction, raise his voice far too high and shout “that sub/helicopter/boat is our only way off this island” then proceed to smash closest thing/person in sight.

Kool Aid Drinking alert. For 5 seasons, doubters like us were told by rabid fans that the ending will make it all worthwhile; now those same gullible ones tell us, reeally, who cares aboput the ending? It’s all abput the characters.

Characters who have not spoken a good line of dialogue in 3 years or a had reasonable character motivation in 5, but who’s counting?

At this point I bet ABC could just skip showing the ending altogether, and D&C cou\ld say, no we ended it and answered everything, don’t you remember? And within a week there’d be 12 websites and 200 blogs about the amazing final episode!

It is so alien to me to hear people saying “great characters!!”

Are Rose and Bernard ever going to stop doing their best impression of a Cialis commercial and emerge from the woods?

OK, we are a littlr more than an hour away, I am banking 3 jungle run into each others, 2 gun cocks per run into, so I say 10 gun cockings. 3, ten to fifteen second long stares, 3 jungle treks, and a whole bunch of suckyness inbetween….. Oh yes and one super stupid slo-mo ending with sucky violin music….. Have a BOOMtastic episode everybody!!!!!!!!!!

All right, before I read every diatribe against this episode, I want to say I think this was the best–the only good–episode this season. Ben’s character arc is the most interesting and Michael Emerson is one of the few people on this show who can actually act. I was almost brought to tears by his performance.

Could’ve done without Guyliner trying to blow himself up though. And the whole “I believe in Jacob” b.s. from Jack. And do we really need to add Hurley’s man boobs to the list of Things I Wish I Hadn’t Noticed?