Episode 15: Across The Sea

Hey. You all everybody…

1st! Suck it bitches!

Oh man that episode sucked! How they didn’t really explain anything! And the pointless jungle trek! And that flashback or sideways or whatever! what the hell was the point of that? and how could this episode possible make sense after that one in season 2! and the gun cocking! of course they wouldn’t miss that! oh brother!

Juno’s mom is such a bitch!

interesting that women from ancient times, which under normal circumstances would be lucky to have any education, are fluent in two languages, and speak a modern version of english, which probably didn’t even exist yet. point one for you, lost!

AHH!

Another character says:

“It’s not time yet!”

This will probably be the last line spoken in the finale….

“this light is in all of us”. this is embarrassingly bad.

“there is a little bit of that light in every man”

seriously wtf?

Can this show get any more corny? I feel like I’m watching Xena Warrior Princess and just waiting for Bruce Campbell to roll in and say something retarded. Booooooo….

kid sure grasped the whole dead concept pretty quick. 10 seconds after asking what it was they were hunting a boar and it didn’t exactly look like it was their first time

Uhhhh….what happened to “I made it so you can’t hurt each other” as _______ (I’m not going to name this character) is bleeding from the nose.
C’mon guys, I can crap out a better script…

“I murdered your mother, will you stay with me?”

Suuuuure!

“did you kill my mother”
“yes”
“oh that’s cool i’ll stay with you”

Hurley will regurgitate all the dead characters and turns out to be Faraday. Did we ever see both characters in the same scene?

I think I would rather watch the sighing squinty bearded antics of Daniel Farraday poorly explain why time travel should suddenly be introduced into the plot than have yet another group of characters and story items be thrown into the already convoluted blender of plotholes and stupidity.

Can excessive eye rolling eventually lock them in a permanent roll? I’m concerned tonight’s episode might do it.

Spoil it for me please.

I am not in the U.S. but I want spoilers for this episode

Do you think if I start digging in the backyard and tell my wife that I’m going to find a giant golden light and rig up an intricate series of wooden wheels with the only rationale being “I’m special” she’ll divorce me?

Let’s see, there’s a special light and now a wooden wheel can somehow use the light to get him off the island…

It doesn’t matter that they explained the origin of the frozen donkey wheel because the whole idea sucks just as much as the first time we saw it.

SPOILERS PLEASE

It’s the source of life, re-birth, all kinds of good stuff…don’t ever go near it…now here’s this wine…

OK how did he know that moving the light can get them out”? What is the light anyway?

And is this really the same show we were watching first season? Seriously they are so different that they should’ve just made 2 different shows.

I’m more entertained watching the commercials.

also why are we supposed to care so muc about these people im bored of them

I HATE FANTASY SHOWS…. WTF “DRINK THIS” WTF IS THIS

JACOB LOOKS LIKE EH HAS A MENTAL RETARDATION

Allison Janney has to be saying what the fuck has happened to my career. I used to be on West Wing fer crissakes.

No wonder Jack is one of the candidates – both he and Jacob like to cry and whine as grown men.

where did the wine come from and what makes it so special?

NOW YOU AND I ARE THE SAME? WTF THATS A LIL PERVY

Uh-oh. Someone burned up blackie’s mancala game. And there ain’t a Toys R Us for THOUSANDS of miles!!

Grip your childhood game and grimace…GRIMACE!!!

What sucks more than Lost is the irritating idea that it’s writers and producers will somehow still be allowed and have the means to go on and write and produce future shows that really suck.

Did I miss it? Whitey is Jacob, but has Blackie been named? I’ll wet myself if it’s Johnny, as in Cash.

And now Alison Jannney treks alone to Tribal Council to be voted off this season’s shittiest Survivor spinoff…

DO YOU GUYS THINK THAT JACOB AND HIS MOM FUCK NOW?

ALSO WHY DID JACOB STOP AGING AS AN OLD MAN AND NOT AS A YOUNG BOY?

Who’s up on their Bible: is Allison’s character similar to someone in the old testament? I keep thinking Ruth but that’s not right.

MIB: “Tag! You’re it, Mom!”

YES SHE IS DEAD!!!

Jacob’s a violent mofo. And he’s the GOOD guy?

“WHY WOULDNT YOU LET ME LEAVE MOTHER?” ” BECAUSE I LOVE YOU”

THEY WERE DEF HER TWO LIL SEX PUPPETS

Man what a good episode so far, and V’s coming up next…So glad the Cavs game was shitty enough to let me watch LOST…Only a couple weeks left guys until this site shits a mudslide…

Row row man in black, gently down the (drain?) Turn into a pillar of smoke, make us all insane. Seriously? SERIOUSLY?

Wait. What the EFF??!?! THAT’S SMOKE?!?!?!?

Early yet on the left coast.
Exactly how gay is this episode?

LOL HE WENT DOWN THE HOLE… OS THATS HOW HE SMOKES? MOST RETARDED STORY LINE EVER

Wait. I thought Blackie couldn’t be killed by Jacob?

Our very own Adam and Eve….not exactly….

Wow, 1 remotely relevant tie-in to a shitty episode.

Wow…
I was really looking forward to this episode…..
but MAN was it WEAK!

and now “V” with half the cast of LOST who died, and the other half of Battlestar Galactica who turned out to be a Cylon.

Wow, that episode was UNBELIEVABLY shitty.

out on a limb here…do you think the black and white rock symbolize something? the imagery is so subtle…

the thing that really annoys the hell out of me is the writers were probably super excited about that last part.

the skeletons were these two characters who you still know next to nothing about even after their own show so that totally proves we knew what we were doing all along!!!

that said…as far as answers go I’m thinking thats the best we’ll get. if anyone is looking for anything else even remotely relevant to the first 2 seasons you might as well treat this show as the finale.

Is there such a thing as post shadowing?

A good writer would tell the story of jacob and his brother prior to any of the main island story so that we could understand the motives of their characters and have a better appreciation for what is happening on the island.

Lost writers slap this shit on at the end to fill time before they lay a big ol’ turd of a finale.

My TV guide must be broken. It said that the episode was supposed to explain Locke’s motives. There was nothing but your standard issue filler.

But on the bright side, that conniving bitch got what’s coming to her.

SPOILER!!!!

THE LAST SHOT OF THE LAST SHOW:

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This episode actually had me say aloud before two different commercial breaks, “This is f****** awful.” I actually enjoyed the first and second seasons but these episodes have all ruined that for me, I hate the show now.

A giant light that functions as “the heart” of the island? WTF is this, Xena? The writers spoke to everyone that watches when the mother says, “Asking a question just creates more questions.” Yet another hour of boring filler that created more questions.

I also like how the writers tried to link this episode with a bit from Jack and kate from season one. They had no idea where the show was going and just created vague shit that they could eventually link to later on. It’s horrendous writing and I’m glad it’s almost over.

Wow, that was as bad as it could be. Light, water, and a “system” = science! These writers are so shitty. How do brain dead morons go around saying this is the best show and that the writers are geniuses.

Here i go: i have been an avid fan for the show since the beginning….after hearing about this episode and all the ‘answers’ we will get i was HYPED! i will say it was neat seeing the history and everything BUT i was really dissappointed. Ok first off….their “mother”. how can she make them not harm eachother? how can they not leave? is she magic??? I mean how can she do that??? Also the wheel…I can almost buy that whole light storyline, but how does mib know that putting a wheel with it will move him off the island??? and how does it work? I am happy that they showed it and acknowledged these things but please EXPLAIN them…i dont wanna just assume that this all happens just because it happened. Really upset. And on top of that…there is still history we dont know…the statue?? And what is the light again? They just need to clarify this episode i think and then i can enjoy it…It just seems all to “hear ya go. just take for granted that it all happens like magic..” Still absolutely estatic about the present day story but the history really upsets me….uuhhh ok i got it all out!

i like the way allison janney thanked titus welliver for killing her character so she could be written off the show.

That was SO bad…I don’t no where to start.

More clueless people who have no reason for their motivation. Mother kills Claudia because she need a “pure” replacement. ? So Jacob is a virgin? No wonder Kate’s name is crossed out. Just dumb.

The boys live 10+ years and never notice others on the Island?

MIB is so “special” that he knows how to play a game he has never seen before? He whines about going home for the last two thousand years? Can make a donkey wheel, attach it to “light” and leave?

The “light” was so contrived and corny. Don’t go into the light! Really? No, Really?

“Mom, did you kill my real Mother?” Yes. Okay, I’m okay with that.

Adam and Eve relieve was lame. Like the whispers, the statue, the Black Rock, the Temple, etc etc etc

Sad thing is that this IS the answer. I doubt we will get any more info on the history of the Island. We know see Jack defeat MIB and become the next Jacob. sigh

Where to begin? This was purely the shittiest episode Lost has graced us with. First the major points. The writers have no clue how to answer any of the mythology. And the answers they give us are vague and lame. For starters, let us explain the origins of the Jacob/Smokey feud.

Both are twin brothers born on island to a shipwrecked woman who is killed by “mother” who will raise the boys. Fair enough. Said “mother” has been on the island for an indeterminable amount of time and knows the island’s nature and “secrets.” How? There’s no time. The boys “aren’t ready.” To introduce conflict between Jacob and his (still) unnamed brother, we need their real mom in the red dress to appear as a ghost to unnamed brother with black hair. Have her give not yet Smokey the truth about his beginnings. Then have noname move away to the extras who want to discover the strange island. Cut forward 30 years to Jacob and brother. Noname has found out (correctly) that the magical gold light energy will transform you away from the island. How? Did one of his tribesman turn the wheel and disappear? No. Did his ghost mother tell him? No. He found out because he’s “special.” What a non-answer. Is this the resolution to any question? Any significant aspect of the show is boiled down to the character’s “specialness”? Next, crazy mother knocks out noname and kills the tribe (presumably). Then she destroys the well. She then tells Jacob he must protect the island and its crazy gold light energy. Then noname kills crazy bitch step mom. Then Jacob throws noname down the magical water slide. Then no name turns into Smokey. But his body dies. Jacob takes noname’s corpse to the cave with step mom. We get a look of young Jack and Kate from season 1. Judging by the rate of decay, Jack thought they were 40-50 years old. Try 2000 years. But, yeah, I can totally see the writers having that one planned all along. The show ends without us knowing…

*The specific rules or how Jacob and his no named brother came up with them
*Why letting Smokey leave the island would be so detrimental
*How step mom knew so much about the island
*Why Jacob was immortal…or how Smokey can change forms and why he can’t be killed (I guess he already is “dead” but his soul is trapped????)
*How Jacob learned Korean/Russian/English/etc.
*How Jacob travels off the island to touch everyone
*How the statute, the lighthouse, the ruins, the temple, etc all got built
*Why Smokey can’t cross the ash circles or Sonic fences.
*Why Smokey can’t just turn the wheel and leave
*Why Smokey can’t kill the candidates
*How the next candidate will know what to do (keep Smokey from leaving)
*Why Smokey can appear in any form until he takes the form of Locke and then is stuck as Locke
*How Ilana knew above ^^^^^^
*How/why ghosts sometimes appear to certain people

To me, this episode really didn’t make sense. I’m confused, upset, and on the brink of tears. I hate this show, so very very much. I’ve wasted years of my life, years I’ll never get back. Oh well, just 2 episodes left.

I actually still liked LOST until tonight. Granted, I understood it had started out as a GREAT show that descended into an unintentional comedy, but tonight’s episode cemented it for me – it’s all been a colossal waste of time. I couldn’t even laugh at the non-answers; I couldn’t even admire the nice scenery; this episode just proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that nothing was set in stone, and any emotional involvement in the neat mysteries was for naught considering the answers to those mysteries didn’t exist until the very last second. This show won’t get better. There’s no way it can. There would have to be one HELL of a mind-blowing final reveal that explains EVERYTHING and why SO MUCH TIME was wasted to turn things around, and guess what? THERE’S NO TIME FOR THAT!

I hate this goddamn show.

i hope damn and carlton give a pat on the back to all of us MIBs at whylostsucks, since we’re the ones who truly “get” the show. then we can make fun of all the Jacobs at thefuselage. suckers.

Is it just me, or did their real mother kind of look like the same actress that played young Danielle from last season? Not when she looked like a mess in the beginning but when she was dead and re-appeard.

…how did a Spanish woman give birth to two white boys, anyway?

my father walks in the room at the end of the episode, sees young smokey floating down the tunnel of whatever, and in the lamest special effects of the season, slip under the light and turn into the smoke monster. my dad: “this is why I watch reality TV”. owned

I would like to go on record as saying this was the single WORST episode of Lost ever. It hands down beats Jack’s tattoos and Nikki & Paulo in every conceivable definition of badness.

“Well, my brother and I were sitting on the beach watching sea turtles fuck and playing Yahtzee. Then the next thing you know our psycho-mom shows us the entrance to the Yellow Brick Road.”

Everything I HATE about Lost was in full effect tonight:
1) The main characters weren’t in it.
2) The plot didn’t advance.
3) More new characters that don’t matter at all.
4) Meta bullshit in-jokes, “…my answers would only raise more questions”.
5) Good character actors being dragged through the mud.
6) Pseudo-religious, quasi-mystical, somewhat mythological, purely magical plot.
7) Answering questions in a way we KNOW they didn’t plan from the beginning. There is no fucking way in hell that they planned Adam & Eve to be MiB and his mother from the beginning. I repeat NO FUCKING WAY! They would NEVER have referred to a man and woman as being Adam & Eve (even for that purpose) if they had intended them to be mother and son. Nice try dick-heads.

Thank God this shit is almost over with. I nearly blew a blood vessel like 17 times during this episode from alternately laughing so hard and getting so pissed off.

BOOM!

Sweet relief.

So now we know that Jacob is on the island to guard the cave that houses Marsellus Wallace’s soul.

I feel even more sympathetic to the smoke monster now than ever before.

Does anyone else remember the beginning of the show, where it wasn’t even a smoke monster, just this invisible horror moving through the trees and ripping people out of planes? If that’s not evidence that they were making it up as they go along…

This totally changes Jacob’s motivation. How and why can he bring people to the Island? Why would he bring them as a test to show MIB that human’s have worth?

Mother died before she could give him any answers. I guess that special wine was the thing that kept Richard from aging.

There’s more magic at work in the average Lost episode these days than in a Harry Potter novel. Didn’t the writers swear that everything would have a scientifically plausible explanation at several points? Geez, I guess I slept through the parts about the magical light inside of us all during all my science classes over the years.

How did that lady from The West Wing manage to destroy the Donkey Wheel Well and kill every one in that camp all by herself? Who does she think she is, Anakin Skywalker? Oh yeah, and she did it all during the time the Man in Black was passed out.

Awesome.

Basically all I got from this episode is that mib is s cool dude and Jacob is an annoying pussy mommas boy. Go mib!

Umbilical cords? Or was it a “special” birth?

Things I learned from Lost this week…

It is possible for a non-retarded human child to live off the land’s bounty for 13 years on an island without formulating some kind of understanding of the concept of death. Young Jacob must have never had much success spearing pigs or filleting fish.

A magnet can have the power to violently suck a dagger ten feet sideways through the air, yet the same magnet can, moments later, allow a man to pull that dagger free with minimal effort.

When stranded on an island covered with natural boat-making materials, it’s best to plan escape by digging for magic light, and, when that is reached, constructing a wheel that, when turned properly, combines the light with water. Presto, Home-O. If the professor had ‘known things,’ Gilligan’s crew would have been off their island in no time.

It is possible for a child to learn how to play a board game while in utero and then remember how to play this game upon seeing the board and pieces 13 years later.

It is of critical importance that MIB’s real name isn’t given yet. What is it going to be? I vote Gloria. Why not.

A sorceress might be really great at casting an anti-aging spell, but really shitty at casting a ‘you can’t hurt your brother’ spell. (Man, Jacob totally piss pounded MIB twice in that episode.)

If properly provoked, a 125 pound lady can, in the course of one night, murder and burn a small village of pig-butchering sailing folk and completely fill in their mines, all by hand.

It is possible for one of the most pivotal episodes of the entire Lost series to feel like a really bad After School Special- Sci-Fi Addition. Had there been unicorns and leprechauns leaping about the entrance to the cave of light, I wouldn’t have been surprised.

It’s really hard to get quality actors to try out for parts on a super successful TV series. Good heavens, how many women tried out for the part of the ‘mother’ of Jacob and MIB before they decided to just give the job to the hippie drippy mother-in-law of the key grip.

This episode was bullshit to the nth degree.

I can’t beleive i’m reading shit like “oh so that’s where the donkey wheel came from” or “oh that’s where jacob and mib came from”.. “i’m satisfied”.

Who was the old lady and how did she get there?

What was so special about those boys in particular?

How did old crazy lady know about the light, and it’s properties?

If they make it clear that he has to guard the light, how did he leave the island to ‘touch’ the others.

How can a wooden wheel manipulate light?

Where did the juice come from and what makes it special?

What does any of this have to do with Dharma, Ben, the hatch and the button, the numbers, kate’s sweaty tits, farragay etc?

can i just come out and say this: who the hell are the writers to introduce 1000 mysteries and then openly say that not all of them will be answered. “only if they are important to our characters then we will answer them”. thats bullshit. i did not watch this show for 6 effing years to be told they wont all be answered when i was under the impression it would be. dont get me wrong i still think its the best tv show, but this last episode made me realize i hate the writers. I WILL give them the benefit of the doubt until i see the remaining episodes….after that depending on what is left unanswered i will see. But words cant describe HOW mad i will be if there is big things unaswered….Grrrrr i really thought this show was gonna end epic…PLEASE GOD let the last 2 episodes redeem this one and give us answers and the happiness we deserve for being hardcore fans for so long

Was this episode the pilot to a new daytime Lost sequel? They could give it a real soap opera name like, “The Guiding Donkey Wheel Light.”

It’s just a worthless, ABC type, cheap fantasy. It’s easy to see the future, the finale will be just a big waste of time – just like the past six years of this #@$%# &%#.

From Gawker:

J.J. Abrams’ Super 8 Is About… Aliens Who Make Movies?

i just want to say THANK GOD this site exists. the only way to make it through to the end of this show is to laugh about how stupid it is. i can also find consolation that the mouth breathers on the EW board are getting drowned by people who actually point out how bad it is. what is it about someone referring to the ass-clown producers as ‘darlton’ that makes me want to punch someone?

35 minutes in and these scenes could be swapped for ones from the original Planet of the Apes. At least that story was entirely logical.

I don’t know why I still watch. Perhaps because the Vancouver Canucks lost to Chicago…even the Canucks are better than Lost. That’s pretty bad.

seriously, the ending of this show will make the last two Matrix movies look like Shakespeare had written them.

really thats what we have here, seasons one and two were the original matrix, while seasons 3-4 are the zion dance scene, and seasons 5-6 are an eyless keanu reeves speaking mono syllable two word phrases

over 200 hate-filled posts and lost hasn’t even finished airing in all four time zones. AND the fastest influx of new posters i’ve ever seen.

welcome to the light at the end of the tunnel that is whylostsucks

seriously, the only thing consistent on this show was really bad wigs and facial hair.

Their mother is spanish or portugese landing on an island that is ,although “spinning on spacetime”, restricted to where it jumps to as it is in need of some eg south-pacifical climate to sustain its vegetation by ship that therefor has to be developed enough for long distance travels. All this leaves no other conclusion than jacob / noname (THEY EVEN DID NOT GIVE HIM A NAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) arrived on the island somewhere around / between 1300 and 1600 around spanish reign over the seas. Smokey is created even 40 years later.
Never the less, during ben’s temple redemption scene smokey enters the scene through holes forming a grid in a stone block portraying him as a lightning-snake or shit, which indicates that all this egyptian temple / statue stuff was built to worship smokey, which means it had to be built even after the smokification of unknown.
Please show me the old egyptians who where still around on the seas for the last 1000 years!!

Also they stated clearly this episode that the wells were built by the other survivers of their mothers ship. during season 5 when they jumped to a earlier version of the orchid, that the well with the donkeywheel, it was clearly surrounded by some kind of stonehenge, indicating that the wells were built by the islands usual ancient egyptian tribe. The shipsurvivers live i primitive wood shelters but they build some temple from massive stone? Oh and by the way, when we saw the orchid-well this episode again in collapsed state there were no sign of the temple around it (and it was definitely at a completely other location on the island than back in season 5)

THEY WERE STILL PLANNING SHIT IN ADVANCE EVEN IN SEASON 5 !!!!

PS: Not even the semigod jacob has any idea what he is doing / what’s going on / what its for / what the island is… Yet he is intriguing, and lighthousing, and hoping off-island on-island, and handing out ankhs, like he had the universes masterplan to make become reality… HEY, just like the writers!!

I would also like to nominate the usually wonderful Allison Janney for the “worst death ever” award. That sudden expelling of air at the end of it made my finacee laugh so hard that milk came out of her nose (for reals, yo). The weird thing- she wasn’t even drinking milk at the time… BOOM! I’m kidding, she was in fact drinking milk.

The smoke monster came out of the island’s glory hole!

SPOILER ALERT!!!
SECRET GUEST STARS FOR NEXT WEEK INCLUDE HENRY ‘THE FONZ’ WINKLER AND TED MCGINLEY.

Just finish reading the wiki text version.

So they don’t understand what “dead” means and they can understand what “kills” means? Very clever!

I think they can extend many more episodes to give a flashback/flash forward/flash sideway for Claudia/Claudia’s mother/survivors of the wreckage……..many more….

The writers just throw out garbage answers…..another prove they make this shit up.

This episode perfectly highlights the talents of the writing staff on lost… they know how to insult even the most average intellect.
I feel the only ending i would be satisfied with (after pain-painstakingly watching every episode to date) would be if the entire cast preformed a Broadway style song and dance at the end complete with jazz hands… all of them singing “we can’t believe you watched this show!”

Well listen up you bunch of lunk headed morons. This was the best episode that has ever been on television or any where else for that matter. Now if you believe that bunch of horse shit I got a show I want ya to watch. Well just a small rant tonight because I am feeling like shit, and thats usually the start of a three day bed sore. So here we go. How the hell come the island bitch went and killed them boys mom? How come she didn’t ever give Smokie a name? For crying out loud name the little bastard anyways. Bill, Bob, George anything but Sue!!! Hell that would have at least been a name. When it’s dinner time and you start yelling for them to come home and eat. What do you yell? “JACOB!!! UMMM NO NAME, TIME FOR DINNER!” “Now wash your hands real good little Nameless one.” One more thing. She said that they couldn’t hurt each other, but Smoke sure looked pretty dead to me. Now the way it looked to me was that Jacob did it. I am only blind in one eye and can’t see out the other. Mentally challenged, yes but not a complete idiot, Still I just don’t get it. Hopefully more later. I will be back!!! Sorry about yer luck…..

England sucks, I always have to play catch up with you far advanced americans.

so… go ahead… tell me what an asshole i am… i’ve been watching this show since the first night, and although i laugh my ass off reading this site after every episode, the only questions i really needed answered are what the fuck is going on this insane goddamn island, and what the hell the smoke monster was, and i got most of the answers i needed tonight… quoted from “matt” above…
“MIB and Jacob are twins. They get adopted by a crazy woman who kills their mother.
Jacob doesn’t know anything. AT ALL.
MIB built the donkey wheel.
There’s a tunnel with light coming out that needs to be protected.
MIB kills adoptive mother.
Jacob shoves MIB in the tunnel and smoke monster comes out.
MIB and adoptive mother are adam and eve.
Jacob is a stupid asshole.
Now it’s the church of science vs. the church of ignorance.”
really that’s good enough for me, i never needed an overtly scientific explanation for what the island was, or for it’s properties… a semi-mythological quasi-religious explanation about “the light” and rainbows and fucking unicorns works for me… it still needs a pretty spectacular finale, but i haven’t been convinced this isn’t the best show ever yet….
go ahead, tell me what an asshole i am….

I am under the impression people are actually still fans of this show, right? I would have to assume, then, that at least a fraction of those people are fervently still awaiting answers? It’s as though you have selectively weeded out the sane viewing audience to only anger insane people that much more.

Therefore, the only question I have left for this show is seriously whether “something very, very bad” is going to happen to one of these writers by a maniacally infuriated, half-retarded fan who has a severe meltdown upon viewing the finale? To me, it really seems like a legitimate possibility if not perhaps, karmic retribution.

If murder is the fate of say, Damon, I hope it at least happens in some truly inspired and poetic way and captured through the eye writer who was once a fan of the show. Perhaps after his untimely death would then be the quick-release of his biography, which also functions as a kind of homage to the writing style LOST helped rise to popularity. The biographer would spin real-life interviews taken from say, Damon Linelof’s actual family, friends, and lovers, into a real-life mystery of soap-opera-esque proportion. His relationships with those of any actual significance to him in his life will be honored in true Lost fashion- as they are recaptured in the scope of literary history as perhaps the most shamelessly cliched character arcs ever written about.

As the impassioned biographer, he would dedicate some final chapters to source material drawn from following Damon’s family, through their week of mourning after his death. Damon’s greatest living masterpiece strangely follows him beyond death. Two days after Damon’s murder, investigators announce that Damon’s murder plot was ironically inspired by any of one the infantile death plots involving explosives that Damon himself actually helped conceive.

Mystery and suspicion are propagated further when unidentified persons are seen in attendance of the funeral, from the back of the church, masked and dressed as a variety of the less significant characters from LOST, such as Dogen or Alvar Hanso. They quickly disappear upon being noticed by Damon’s college friends who begin laughing upon having made the observation. The biography goes on to explains how Damon’s parents were horrified to witness a group of people again dressed as LOST characters and visibly drunk, erect a time capsule made of cardboard in their front lawn. When Damon’s parents attempted to confront the hooligans asking them politely to please leave their yard, one man dressed in black pants, a white shirt and black tie, allegedly began nervously apologizing through broken laughter for not being able to properly warn Damon about his demise, then saying, “Everything that happened, happened” and again succumbing to wild laughter. The parents had difficulty identifying the trespassers before they ran, since they had admittedly, never watched the show.

Poor lttle Jacob, he’s gotta be a virgin.

How fuckin’ young did Kate and Jack look in that reaired scene from season 1? Jeez, this show has aged those 2. I know its been 6 years, but dammit.

Anyways, this has been, oh, the 72nd time we’ve been punked. We used to think Jacob knows why the island is so important. But does he? He saw a magical gold light. He ACCEPTED, on faith alone, his “mother” who told him she killed his real mom knew what it was (the heart of the island, a special energy field that is inherent in any man, woman or child). This special “heart” is what keeps evil from inhabiting the entire world (where this leap of logic happened I still don’t know).

So, Ben was supposed to know why the island is special. He never even met Jacob. Everything he did was one major bluff on his followers and Locke and ultimately, us the viewer. Richard was supposed to have all the answers. He only met Jacob once, got immortality from him, and “obeyed” Jacob’s call. However, we never found out why the island was so special. Tonight we meet Jacob/Smokey’s beginnings. We find out the island houses some special “energy” (fair enough) and that it appears Smokey now houses said energy. Why this energy is dangerous and why it needs to be protected is not explained. The only reason why Jacob does so (and why he doesn’t want Smokey to leave the island) is because his crazy-bitch-step-mom told him it is important. We don’t know how she knows. We don’t know why she feels this way. We just don’t know. Furthermore, we don’t know the rules as to the Jacob/Smokey feud. WHY can’t Smokey kill Jacob? Because their stepmom said so? What gives her the authority/power to block this? How was Smokey formed? It just happened this way once noname was thrown down the magical water slide? So if you go down the magical river you are killed yet your soul lives on in an immortal column of smoke that can change form into different people/objects when necessary. The only condition is you can’t leave the island that you were born on. I guess someone needs to tell Smokey ignorance=bliss. Take the form of Brad Pitt, have sex w/ Kate, Juliet, Ana-Lucia, Nikki, and Claire for the rest of eternity…Why the hell does Smokey want to leave anyway? He is a freakin’ god. All someone has to do in the real world is lure Smokey into a seculed area and then turn on a Sonic fence. Leave said fence on until you can find a better way to store this evil bit of energy.

How can this show end in any plausable way? How can they explain how the Dharma Initiative failed to return to the magical island even though the held the station off island in that church in Los Angeles that told them exactly how to get back? How do they explain the others insistance Jacob is the ultimate truth even though they never met Jacob? How do they explain the food drop from Dharma that happened 12 years after Dharma was purged from the island? How did the others (Richard in 1954) leave the island? What are the rules between Jacob and his brother? Why don’t pregnant women survive? Why did pyschic Desmond tell Charlie he saw Claire leave with Aaron on a helicopter when Claire never did such thing? (This was the reason Charlie sacraficed himself afterall. Either Desmond lied or Charlie died in vain…but this hasn’t been explained yet). If the reason they crashed was to find 1 candidate to replace Jacob, why did they all have to die? The reasons were silly and nonsensical. When the candidate is found, let the others leave. Where did Vincent’s ass go? He is the best actor in the show. We need more of him. Why was Walt special? Why was noname special? Why did Jack think the bodies of noname and “mother” were 50 years old when they obviously were on the island a long time ago? And so on…

Not seen todays comedy of shitflinging yet, and probably wont get a chance to until Sunday or so.

Have fun tearing it to bits!

saying, ‘at least the show the show will be over in two weeks’, says it all. maybe the vacuum called our economy will return to normal when the island sinks, everyone dies, the douche bag gets freed and side-ways world comes into being in a claire and kaite, “two girls one island” scene. gagg

“lost”, just makes me want to rip out my brain, spit on it and then laugh at my own stupidity for caring anymore.

I’m at the office running Linux and my distribution of Red Hat didn’t come with a video player (what is this, 1993?) I can’t watch this fucking thing. At this point it it might be easier to convert the AVI file to flash and watch it in my browser…wait, does my browser support AVI files?

Gossip Girl has more logic than this fucking show.

First things first, as far as Lost goes, this was a good episode. It was entirely on island, original MIB was in it, it set up a good conflict, and there were no gun cocks. However, in the spirit of WLS, here goes.

Imagine you got knocked up. You’re pregnant, frightened and all alone. What do you do? I know, go treking aimlessly through the jungle. Darlton, I salute you. Here I thought u couldn’t stoop any lower. You’ve proven me wrong. Also, do pregos have some sort of hydro-compass pointing to water? Furthermore, that island keeps getting smaller and smaller. In the other island, you know, the one back in 2004, she would’ve given birth before finding fresh water.

Any one else think prego looked eerily like Richard? The other one, the virgin mary, looked old…Reausaux(sp?)…but I still would. But watching her struggle to speak Latin really drives home the fact that this show licks balls. Rocky Balboa could do a better job reading off of poster size cue cards. Oh, also, I totally would Rachel Alpert too I give credit where credit is due, they did a great job of pulling the ol’ Red October tactic of starting off in a foreign language, then shifting to English.

Predictibality: “It’s a boy”, well we know it’s Jacob, and that stomach has not gone down, oh let me guess, TWINS. I’m a genius. I should run for office. Of course this invalidates the whole premise of season 6. You mean to tell me that the writers took the course of candidature as opposed to feuding brothers? What are they teaching in Writing 101? White->Good, Black->Bad?

ARE U FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!! You only picked one name? Name it you bitch. You had 6 seasons to come up with names. Well it’s a good thing Mother Theresa killed her for being so fucking stupid

I hope they give a better explanation than “I’ve made it so you can never hurt eachother”. They obviously didn’t do so for the ‘negatively charged exotic matter’. Also, great parenting, tell both your kids that only only one of them will ever be worthy.

That fight scene between smokie jr and Jacob jr was so pathetic. They might as well have shown it unprovoked. The other one, where Jacob freaks out after witnessing his mother murdered is a little better. I’m glad Darlton have been reading my posts and realized that the Jack method of kicking down doors/trees/retaining walls is not very realistic.

Protip: When someone who has done no wrong says “I am sorry”, he/she is about to kill you.

Man this is getting so religious. Drink from a cup to inherit the island? Are you shitting me? and my personal favourite, toilet flush of doom at the end.

first couple of seasons were undoubtedly the best, interesting storylines and intriguing mystery but just WTF… ive just gone along with it since then, generally content with what was going on despite how far out and ridiculous it got with the time travel etc and yet i still tolerated it and thought the show still regained some sense of dignity. BUT fucking hell, this episode has simply destroyed the entire series for me.

As someone has written earlier said, this IS it. This is the main explanation for lost. Given to us in the shittest piece of tv ive seen. Shit acting, barely a few events in the whole episode which are strung out tirelessly and are just so infantile and pathetic they lost me for words. The only connection the writers can find with the early story in the 1st and 2nd seasons is a couple of skeletons in a cave! :S

I honestly know feel like viciously destroying the 1-5 seasons i own of lost on dvd, simply because its all fucking pointless now.

It depends on the glowing jungle pussy-hole that Jacob has been charged to guard. If the hole is some Mother Earth source of life concoction then hang it up, turn out the lights, stupid end to stupid show. But if it turns out to be the Ozzy Osbourne asshole of hell and MIB turns out to be the good guy, then I say some but not all is forgiven…

quote from Cuse:
“I can’t imagine that there are many authors that are able to, basically, conceive something entirely beforehand. We feel strongly that the show would be worse if we were just marching forward.”

yeah i hate those shows that actually move the plot or that have one

i would pay a lot of money to go to an event where you get the opportunity to throw stuff at these two idiots. kind of like those little tanks where the person sits on a plank and if you hit the target to the right they fall in water -except no tank and no plank – just me throwing something at them. not a bad idea really, do it for charity and i bet it would be pretty popular.

I get it now, thats why the others needed Walt so badly that they kidnapped him. Thats why the Others needed so badly to find out why women could not give birth on the island without dying. Thats why Aaron can only be raised by Claire, and why Aaron is so important. Thats where Vincent has been all this time. It all makes sense now. It all logically fits into place so seamlessly.

I am seriously thinking of calling Direct TV and telling them to turn the pipeline that brings this shit into my house off.

IGN, who usually give glowing 9.0+ ratings to every episode, even the horrible ones, couldn’t deny the awfulness that was “Across the Sea”. I think it got the lowest episode score they’ve ever given the show. Soon everyone will realize what a dangling carrot this show has been the entire time. Here’s the link: h**p://tv.ign.com/articles/108/1089039p1.html

For the tl/dr crowd, it’s a nicer version of what we have here.

Excuse me, but this episode gave all the answers.

Locke knows he was brought on the island for a reason but he doesn’t know why.
Linus has to wait for Jacob’s orders, but he doesn’t know why.
Richard has to lead the others but he doesn’t know why.
Jacob has to protect the light but he doesn’t know why.
MIB is dead but he doesn’t know why (wtf he’s supposed to be immortal).
We’re still watching this serie, but we don’t know why.

Everybody’s LOST.

By the way, you can also quote come of the propreties of the Island :
- makeup lasts for months, even when you escape from an exploding submarine ;
- there’s no need to shave, your beard won’t grow ;
- you can wake up one morning with a brand new hair style ;
- there’s an infinite amount of boars and fruits (sufficiently to feed sixty people everyday) ;
- no matter what you eat, if you come fat on the island, you’ll stay fat ;
- similarly, if you come built up like a mister Hugo Boss, you don’t need to go three times a week to the fitness club : on the island, you keep your abs and your biceps (and no need of chest hair removal).

That makes me think, shouldn’t we make some LOST facts, like there are Chuck Norris facts ?

Oh, and by the way, I was told that they intend to end it Star War’s like :

Jack : who the fuck are you, Locke-looking-like guy ?
Locke-looking-like guy : I AM YOUR FATHER !
Jack : NOOOOOOO !

Has anyone ever seen the 80’s Ridley Scott directed Tom Cruise vehicle “Legend”? Remember, Tom’s character is in love with the forest nymph played by Mia Sara. Tom’s man-child character is charged with protecting a glowing glory hole in the woods where a unicorn lives, but Mia Sara brings Darkness (Tim Curry wearing giant foam rubber whale penises on his head) across the land when she violates the rule of not touching the unicorn.

When Jacob and his brother’s hippy mom brought them to the glowing glory hole, I was half expecting a white unicorn to come out of it followed shortly thereafter by the smoke monster’s true form – Tim Curry in a red rubber suit.

That was awesome!!! I am so glad that CJ from WEST WING FINALLY got her own episode! But I have to admit, with so little time left I am getting really really worried that there may not be time to give Bennie from LA LAW, Larry from THREE”S COMPANY, or the fat chick from THE PRACTICE their own episodes. Maybe all three in the finale??!! The suspense is killing me.

So, here’s my prediction for the finale.

The remaining candidates plus Kate have to get the smoke monster back into the glowing glory hole. As shown by Jacob’s unnamed brother, there is a tiny rock blocking the way into the glory hole’s back door down in the well. Desmond is in the well, and he and only he can handle the massive forces of magnetism necessary to go inside the glory hole. Desmond is now in that very same well where Jacob’s brother was cooking up a plate of hot and tasty rocks, and now Desmond will knock down the wall of the well shaft and grant access to the glowing life-giving energy behind it. They will somehow lure the smoke monster inside the trunk of the car from Repo Man, thus sending the smoke monster back from whence it came.

THE END.

Even the fanbois start to realise what we have known for years. They all can say “I WAS WRONG”

BOOM

If porn-light love tunnel turns out to be the Ozzy Osbourne asshole of hell then that makes MIB the brutally inserted Richard-Gere-duck-taped-gerbil of fear and the Black Smoke the perpetually reoccurring re-fried bean fart of death. Maybe it only looks like the actors are being tossed about by the black fart smoke when in actuality they are simply running into walls and shit because they’re trying desperately to get away from the stench!

A long time ago on an island far far away…..ATTACK OF THE KILLER TOMATOES!

ATTAAAAAACK OF THE KILLER TOMATOES!!

And if anybody ain’t down with the Ewoks I got just 2 words for ya……BUTT SHIT!

Hey, something came to my mind…

What if MIB is dead, and the black smoke took is appearance in order to kill Jacob ?

LOST is like a juggler juggling like a 100 balls in the air for like a few seconds while everyone stands around in awe , then drops them all and keeps juggling air pretending as if its still a great trick.

With all the thousands of people on the island (others tribeds, Dharma, Oceanic, random others) criss-crossing the island for hundreds of of years, no one else stumbled across the stream with the pirates of the caribbean tunnel of light?

So, it all could have been solved like this?:

[ Dogan calls the remaining 6 candidates into a room ]

Dogan: You guys are candidates.

Everyone else: Candidates for what?

Dogan: To take Jacob’s place, protecting the island’s “magic” and keeping smokie here on the island.

Everyone else: Huh? How were we supposed to figure that out?

Dogan: I know. But I figured if I just told you what was going on, it would be easier. Any takers?

Jack: I’ll do it since I don’t want to leave the island.

The other 5: OH, thank god. Can we go now?

Dogan: Sure. See you guys later.

[ The other 5 leave ]

Jack: That’s really too bad, cause a lot of people’s live would have been saved.

Dogan: Yeah, I know. Good thing I told you what was happening before I got drown in my hot tub.

Jack: Oh, yeah. That would have sucked.

BOOM

So do the writers really want us to like/root for Jacob over MIB? Jacob is a pissy little punk who seems intellectually challenged. Meanwhile, MIB seems smart, inquisitive and for the most part well meaning. Sure he killed the chick claiming to be his mom, but only after she killed a whole tribe and screwed him over. He just wants to get the hell out of there and go home. Can you blame the guy? I have way more sympathy for the MIB character than Jacob.

I really hope the writers have the balls to end the show with MIB “winning”, getting off the island, and the world blowing up. I would have a lot of respect finally for the show if something like that happens.

LOST is like a juggler juggling like a 100 balls in the air for like a few seconds while everyone stands around in awe (seasons 1-3 in my opinion) then drops them all and keeps juggling air pretending as if its still a great trick.

Really guys, this was the most boring episode, EVER!!! and also it is very disappointing that Jacob is a Virgin, so it’s MIB, I guess that is why he wants to leave the island, to get laid!

There are a couple people in my office who like Lost. In the interest of workplace productivity, we’ve basically reached a detente, and I’ve stopped ridiculing them. But today had to be the day, right? I mean, they could not have liked that episode, they have to know this is all a big joke. They have to see that there is no there there.

Unfortunately, I’m dreaming. I know from experience that when the answer to a four year old question, rendered meaningless by subsequent invalidating and conflicting plot develpments, is essentially, “because a Wizard did it,” they have lapped up the answer like it was water from the golden glory hole. It won’t be any different now that it is revealed that literally NO ONE, including Jacob and Smokie, really knows anything about the origins of the island, and that the answer to everything really is based in vague, limitless mysticism and magic.

The writers really have to be making a concerted effort to make it as vague as possible. And at this point I really can’t figure out why. It’s ending in two weeks, there is no more stretching it out for more money! Yet the answers are still, “because I’m special” “because I made it so you can’t hurt each other” “because people are bad” “because the light is special”. Those aren’t fucking answers. And they have made a concerted effort not to tie it to a reference point of actual mythology or religion.

They have had two chances to set the mythology for the show this season, and both have basically been grade school morality plays with the production value of a syndicated saturday afternoon fantasy. I just don’t get why they are not even making an effort.

Scene opens on one of the island’s fabulous beaches.

Lil’ Special J: What does dead mean?

Fake Mom: Don’t worry your pretty head. It can’t happen to you.

Later that week in some grassy field…

BIB (boy in black): That bitch killed our real mother.

Lil’ Special J: What does killed mean?

Fake Mom: It means I bashed your Mom’s brain in with a rock, sweetie. Now, will you stay with Mama.

Lil’ Special J: Sure, you seem like a sweet lady. Plus I’m loyal to you because I’ve always felt you loved me as much as my bro.

Fake Mom lifts shirt and says: Good boy, now come over here for some din din.

Thirty years later at the glory hole stream…

Fake Mom: I know you and your brother are close, but I thought you should know that I just killed all his friends, probably also the dude who knocked up your mom (technically your dad), and I tried to bash your brother’s brains in, similar to what I did to your mother, but instead of bashing a rock into his head, I bashed his head into a rock. For future reference, the method I used on your mom worked much better. Anyhoo, I’ve had a bad day. That said, I really need you to take over my role as the force for good on this island. I need you to watch over the glory hole and make sure no one ever slips anything inside, even though everyone, even you, will probably want to do just that.

Middle Aged Special J (whining): But I don’t want to be the protector of the glory hole. I just want to lounge on the beach and weave tapestries with you for all time.

Fake Mom: Holy turds, you are such a complete weenie ass. Now cowboy up and drink some of this shiraz so that we can become one through a drinking-buddy bond.

Middle Aged Special J (still whining): But you didn’t really want me to be your drinking buddy or the protector of the glory hole. You wanted it to be my brother. By the way, what is his name? It’s been 43 years, can you please tell me his name? I am so tired of calling him brotha’ all the time.

Fake Mom: You don’t need to know his name yet. Giving you that answer would only lead to you asking a series of questions about how I came up with his name, and I don’t want to get into that stuff right now. And, on the other matter, yes, I prefer your brother. I always thought he was way hotter than you and far more capable, the things he could do at only age 13, Lord have mercy! But he left my ass, and now I am stuck with you.

Middle Aged Special J sheds a little tear.

Fake Mom: Dear Lord, just take a swig so the writers can roll the credits already.

LOST: Protect the Virginity of the Golden Island Vagina at all costs!

So when MIB talks about going “back home”, his definition of “home” is literal?

‘Nuff said.

Was it bad acting or Oscar winning brilliance that portrayed Jacob having mental disabilities rivaling I am Sam, Forest Gump and Rain Man? You decide. Mamma Smokie sure is quick with a shovel. Its been said before but to reiterate, the Latin with an American accent? Please, its just lazy acting. Thanks Darlton for the Adam and Eve flash, we couldn’t have worked it out without you masturbating the fact that you finally answered (if not halfassedly) a question that nobody really cared about. If only LOST had another season so we could flash back to see cells dividing in a primordial swamp or H atoms being formed in a void to create the big bang. Why couldn’t we understand Mamma’s mutterings over the wine? to make it more magical? Is she making Polymorph Juice so Jacob can trick Professor Snape into killing “He who shall not be named”. Of course, MIB is Voldemort! Fuck this show and double fuck me for watching it. What happens when Mother Earth gets on the rag? Does the gold light turn red?

They really forgive MURDER quite easily on that show.

If you are a murderer and about to be brought before a parole board. you should pray that they are Lost fans.

Dear Sparky,

What is your problem? For your information, I am a 35 year old female with a PhD in Theoretical Physics. Why was I typing in all caps? Because I was angry as I was watching the show. Why were there typos and spelling errors? Once again, because I was too busy watching the show to check. Sorry? But I think you can understand perfectly what I am saying.

Furthermore, I think you are the one who is too stupid to understand the show. Look at yourself. Think back to the first episode of the show. Think back to the first few seasons. Did you really think this show was going to be about Jacob and No Name Monster? No, I doubt you did. Heck, they didn’t even know that. And ok, it could’ve been about them, and it could’ve been good. But it was the exact opposite. These characters were introduced too late into the story. They started too many superfluous plot lines if they were simply going to have a story about two brothers. Also, it just doesn’t make any sense. A light? Why do they have to protect it? Why is it so important? How does adding a wheel to it make the island move? Why don’t they want MIB to leave the island so badly? Why does his Jacob blindly follow the words of the mother? These are just a few things that are faulty about this story line.

Anyway, are you happy now that I am typing with proper grammar and spelling? Maybe now you can see the idiocy of this episode and Lost in general.

Good luck in your life. You seem like the type of person who is a sheep that blindly follows what someone says without questioning and reasoning. One day you’ll see you haven’t accomplished anything for yourself.

If Jim Morrison knew that his masterpiece “The End” was being used to promote a pile of shit like Lost….

I stopped watching Lost at the beginning of Season 3. That whole storyline with the others was the last jerk on what proved to be a massive wankfest. Keeping up with the show courtesy of this ever-entertaining forum merely reinforces my feeling that I got out just in time. All the fantasy developments are so nonsensical I can only admire your fortitude in sticking with it.

That said, I think the point where the show really started going wrong was in how the writers chose to resolve the button in the hatch issue. As it was introduced, Desmond (followed by Locke/et al) had to push the button to avert some unspecified disaster. The central conflict was between Jack, who had no reason to believe pushing the button did anything (”science”), and Locke who had faith or some kind of mystical intuition that pushing the button was required. For my part, I couldn’t think of any sensible explanation for pushing the button. Why would the hatch and all its machines require entering numbers into a computer? What kind of disaster could possible require that? It just made no sense, until it was revealed that the hatch was under observation by another station. Aha! It’s a psychological experiment on the part of the Dharma initiative! I liked that.

Only, that’s not it… because the writers reveal that all the reports from the observation station just pile up uselessly. And when the hatchies stop pushing the button, things really do go boom. Jack is wrong, Locke is right. So much for rational thought.

That moment, I think, illustrates how the writers chose to go the mystical/fantasy route instead of the science/plausible route. Imagine, for instance, that Jack had been proven right. We could have had a show based on the Dharma Initiative attempts to stave off the end of the world (as calculated by the Valenzetti equation) by studying humanity and highly speculative science. With Dharma representing a technological approach to solving the problem of self-destruction, the Others could have stood in for the natural approach. Right there is fertile ground for drama as the show could have explored how nature and technology can either work against each other or work together, all in the context of humanity’s continued survival. When the survival of humanity is contrasted to the survival of crash survivors on a remote island, well, there you have the great premise that’s been thoroughly wasted.

There are plenty of explanations to the show’s mysteries that could have been very interesting. Magnetic field at the hatch? Nuclear fusion power plant, source of Dharma’s energy for all their island facilities. Smoke monster? I actually like the nano particle idea, tied in with smokey being a “security system” (Dharma project gone badly?) That the show devolved to time travel, alternate realities, smoke creatures and dead people, wheels, and golden lights – there’s nothing more I can say that hasn’t already been said about this drivel.

And the light? It’s the post-climatic glow of the writers after their wankfest.

At the risk of repeating what other people have already said:

This is shoddy storytelling. It’s a way of explaining everything without explaining anything. It’s a sign of how bad the storytelling is that they had to remind us of the two skellies in the cave all the way back in season one with “flashforwards”. No good storyteller would’ve done that.

And I still want to know why babies on the island don’t have umbilical cords.

I watched all five seasons of Lost last summer and I couldn’t wait to see this season to have all the questions answered. As a relative Lost noob I was still holding on all season thinking that something cool was going to happen. Last night was the last straw… this show is bull shit. I found this site as quick as I could and have enjoyed reading it all day. Thank you to everyone for making this revelation so much easier.

Probably gonna end up in a snow globe in the hands of an autistic child [ala St. Elsewhere]. But nowhere near the caliber of show…

What’s with the ‘power check’ Jack first introduced when he pushed Locke into the water? Jacob power checks MIB twice this episode, and he goes flying.

Yeah, there’s no way that the black haired kid grew up to be MIB. That kid looks nothing like him.
Actually he looks like he just stepped out of some anime TV show. I was expecting Pikachu to appear, say “pika” and blast that Ma Barker to smithereens. But in a sense we did have a Pokemon in this episode – didn’t he basically transform to Smokeychu?

So now we discover that Jacob and Smokey know nothing either (what a surprise!), only their stepmother did but she’s dead now. Wait. Did she really know? I bet her mother knew, or did she? well, I bet her grandmother knew. or did she?…. … … I bet her grand grand grand grand….. grand… mother knew. or did she? I bet her … … …

We actually got some answers this episode, And the answer is “because someone decided to”. or “someone made it so”
Rules – “Because Jacob decided to”.
Cannot kill each other “mother made it so”.
Can’t leave? “Because the island doesn’t want you to”

I”m sad to say that we are not that clever – Instead of spending all that time and effort trying to explain why we have issues with Lost, we could just have said: “Lost is not that good”. Why? “Because we decided it’s not” or “The writers made it so”. If you’re a Lost fan, you should accept those arguments, shouldn’t you?

I don’t know if anyone has posted this before:

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1PAB6Sgdp8&feature=fvw

Sorry if it has been posted already.